Artistic Pet Peeves

[I_Own_Charles]

I greatly dislike when I draw gift-art or trade-art for someone and they do not favorite it. If I draw something (good) for you for free, regardless of the circumstances, I should hope I could expect a bit of appreciation and free promotion on your part in return.

I also dislike when I make a useable piece of art, such as an icon, and it is not ever used. What was the point in making it if you're just going to save it on your computer and let it collect e-dust?

So are these pet peeves justified? Do any of you guys feel the same way? What are some of your art-related pet peeves? etc.

Thread begins...now!

[Arshes Nei]

Someone standing over your shoulder while you are drawing and asking: "DID YOU DRAW THAT?!?!"

No I have no @#$#@ idea how this got on my paper

[Litre]

Someone standing over your shoulder while you are drawing and asking: "DID YOU DRAW THAT?!?!"

No I have no @#$#@ idea how this got on my paper


Hahaha, that one is one of my favourites :wink:

[InvaderPichu]

People who complain about the slightest details in a FREE picture given to them.

[Iveechan]

When people comment on an old Pokemon pic from years ago and act like it was recently made (like this old one of a were Mightyena and someone was all "OMG CAN YOU DRAW ASH AS A WERE?!?!". And that pic was from 2004. And I barely draw Pokemon as it is. And I don't do requests unless I like the person.

[Silverdragon00]

Someone standing over your shoulder while you are drawing and asking: "DID YOU DRAW THAT?!?!"

No I have no @#$#@ idea how this got on my paper


sad, that happens to me quite a bit....

[angieness]

You're a good "draw-er", I like your "drawlings"

it drives me crazy when people use "draw-er" and "drawlings" I don't think those are even words!

[Ruiner]

"Hey, Yore Pratty Gewd."
"Did You Drew That?"
"Is that from [Insert Game Here]?"

::STAB::

[Evol]

Drawing WOLF after WOLF after WOLF when I'm doing badges at cons.

[Arshes Nei]

Hey! You draw, you should do this as a career!

(Well if you're saying that, why don't you be my best customer :P)

[Ruiner]

Hey! You draw, you should do this as a career!

Ah, I get this:

"If you do this as a job, you'll be a millionaire!"

If peope become millionaires off of drawing, there would be alot of millionaires... and alot of inflation.

[SevenFisher]

Sometimes people would be too kind, changing the truth on people's work, e.g. reviews, articles, stories, flash movies, and even art. Even if I show my work on ACC*, they would say it's "r0x0r" when it clearly..isn't. Sure, I love to have my work look good and people like it, I just want some truth/crisitms as well other things so I can improve my work further.

*sigh* At least, it did happened to me and it's kind of annoying - you just want honest comments, not posts filled "That picture is awesome" when it's horribly drawing. xP

*ACC - Animal Crossing Community. Used to be active member there.

[Arshes Nei]

Sometimes people would be too kind, changing the truth on people's work, e.g. reviews, articles, stories, flash movies, and even art. Even if I show my work on ACC*, they would say it's "r0x0r" when it clearly..isn't. Sure, I love to have my work look good and people like it, I just want some truth/crisitms as well other things so I can improve my work further.

*sigh* At least, it did happened to me and it's kind of annoying - you just want honest comments, not posts filled "That picture is awesome" when it's horribly drawing. xP

*ACC - Animal Crossing Community. Used to be active member there.


The problem is that when you point out mistakes or give honest opinions you have people who do not like this and have a fit.

A lot of artists have their own idiosyncracies of how they want comments and it causes people to become neurotic over what comments to give, if any. Postive reinforcement is taken to a new "high" (or low) because even you don't want to discourage things even if it's an exercise in a celebration of mediocrity... and people are starting to feel that self esteem bubble burst because while it looks nice, it also causes the person to question the validty of the statement.

The person may very well find your artwork awesome because of their skill level but I can understand how someone feels that comment is very generic or suspicious.

[SevenFisher]

Sometimes people would be too kind, changing the truth on people's work, e.g. reviews, articles, stories, flash movies, and even art. Even if I show my work on ACC*, they would say it's "r0x0r" when it clearly..isn't. Sure, I love to have my work look good and people like it, I just want some truth/crisitms as well other things so I can improve my work further.

*sigh* At least, it did happened to me and it's kind of annoying - you just want honest comments, not posts filled "That picture is awesome" when it's horribly drawing. xP

*ACC - Animal Crossing Community. Used to be active member there.


The problem is that when you point out mistakes or give honest opinions you have people who do not like this and have a fit.

A lot of artists have their own idiosyncracies of how they want comments and it causes people to become neurotic over what comments to give, if any. Postive reinforcement is taken to a new "high" (or low) because even you don't want to discourage things even if it's an exercise in a celebration of mediocrity... and people are starting to feel that self esteem bubble burst because while it looks nice, it also causes the person to question the validty of the statement.

The person may very well find your artwork awesome because of their skill level but I can understand how someone feels that comment is very generic or suspicious.


Fair enough, I've noticed people get all pissy if you're being honest/pointing some flaws, when they can be used to improve your future work. As well of skill level - I can understand that, as well.

Still, it's just when I really start get into drawing I might expect people go all too nice on it..when I need some of critisms(sp) how to improve it, and stuff like that. Ah well, its not really big pevee, but still little thing that bugs me. ^^;

[Arshes Nei]

Well post in the critique forum here and I Can try to give one when I have time then. ;)

One thing that drives me crazy now is because of the "social networking" of comments, you might post a critique right? Then before the person who owns the piece replies if they wanted it or not, you get a flood of fans (sheep) running over to slit your throat.

Now I don't mind the fact that my comment is public and people are free to disagree with it, but...I dunno, maybe wait for the author of the piece to say something before you get upset with someone giving a crtique?

[SevenFisher]

Cool, thanks - I will be sure to use Critique forum when I have art that's improved enough :-) (My current one isn't too good, just 'reasonable' enough to start things off, I guess. u.u; )

Ah yes, that's another one I've noticed..you start to offer honest comments, then "fans" have a go with you because you just post what you felt about <insert item here> - its kind of annoying but there is always cases like that, I usually wait for artists to have a say with that critique before I say something, really. =P

[kitetsu]

My greatest artistic pet peeve... Hmm... Most of it is already said by other people...


Ah yes!

The part where people think i'm a plagiarator.

[Bokracroc]

I hate it when something I've put hardly any effort into, the least amount of.... artistie stuff in it and when it looks absolutly average gets over-rated with "That's great" and "Cool!" comments. NO, IT'S NOT AWESOME, IT'S BLOODY FREAKIN' AVERAGE.

[Malcolm the Bear]

I just sort of dislike people's general disbelief when they hear a piece of music that I wrote. They act like it's impossible to ever personally know someone who composes music as a profession--I guess because they picture "composers" as being "dead White guys" (like Mozart or Bach).

[Eviscera]

I hate people that look for criticism and then can't accept it.
I hate people that take some one else's drawing, traces over it, adds their character's head on it, claims it as their own, denies the shit out of any accusations of ripping some ones work off, and then finally gives a sob story when the truth is pried out of them.
I hate it when I get nagged to draw for some one after rejecting them.
I hate when some one touches one of my originals with their dirty fucking hands.
I hate hearing people whine about not being able to draw but not doing anything to change that.

[Malcolm the Bear]

I hate hearing people whine about not being able to draw but not doing anything to change that.

That sort of hypocrisy irks me in general--people wanting something, having full capability to GET it for themselves, but bitching about not having it and not taking the effort to get off their lazy asses and get it. I think we covered this pretty well in that other thread about Furries not having jobs, able to get jobs, and complaining about not having money.

[Ape Shall Never Kill Ape]

My pet peeve is when I'm trying to draw someone and they keep squriming or moving around.

[Luna Nuri]

My biggest peeve is when I draw a picture for someone for FREE they bug me to hell about if I'm doing it or if I have done it and I keep telling them that I have about 10 pictures to do for OTHER people and it's the same thing every day. UGH!

[TeeGee]

My biggest peeve is when I draw a picture for someone for FREE they bug me to hell about if I'm doing it or if I have done it and I keep telling them that I have about 10 pictures to do for OTHER people and it's the same thing every day. UGH!


Is mine done yet though?

[Silverdragon00]

My pet peeve is when I'm trying to draw someone and they keep squriming or moving around.


shoot them!! If you hit them in the right spot, they'll never move!!! :lol:

[Luna Nuri]

Is mine done yet though?


*shakes her pencil at you* ;jzonoxigiugaljnxkgz >_O

Yes shoot them...in the kneecap. >_>;;

[Kitshera Aureana]

PEOPLE WHO DRAW FEMALES WITH MALE ANATOMY.

Just.Fucking.Stop.It.

[Hyenaworks]

Drawing WOLF after WOLF after WOLF when I'm doing badges at cons.


You better be the best at drawing wolf heads.


I gotta say my biggest pet peeve as an artist is when people ask me if it HAS to be anthro. God fucking damnit.

"Does he have to be a dog?"

"No, he DOESN'T. He just IS."

"Why?"

"I like looking at drawings of anthro horses fucking busty fox girls."

*person flees*

"Ah... Peace and quiet."

[Iveechan]

PEOPLE WHO DRAW FEMALES WITH MALE ANATOMY.

Just.Fucking.Stop.It.


And on the other end, people who draw males with female anatomy (very prevalent at Y! gallery, probably because most of the users there are young females who read shojo pretty boy manga). Males don't have curvy, supple hips, USUALLY.

Or did you mean things like dickgirls?

[TeeGee]

PEOPLE WHO DRAW FEMALES WITH MALE ANATOMY.

Just.Fucking.Stop.It.


And on the other end, people who draw males with female anatomy (very prevalent at Y! gallery, probably because most of the users there are young females who read shojo pretty boy manga). Males don't have curvy, supple hips, USUALLY.

Or did you mean things like dickgirls?


I would guess the latter.

[Hanazawa]

PEOPLE WHO DRAW FEMALES WITH MALE ANATOMY.

Just.Fucking.Stop.It.


So wearing ears and tails and fursuits in public is okay but drawing femaless with male anatomy in the privacy of your own home needs to be stopped? Explain this to me, srsly. I can draw males and females separately, why not draw them together? I mean, if you were smashing them together because you're hiding the fact that you can't draw them separately is one thing, but what if it's just something we like to do? Why should we stop doing what we like to do? :/

[Iveechan]

I think this thread is about public art, nobody cares what you do in the privacy of your own home. And if he/she hates dickgirls, let him.

[Evol]

Drawing WOLF after WOLF after WOLF when I'm doing badges at cons.


You better be the best at drawing wolf heads.


Hahaha. I actually think I suck at wolves because I hate drawing them. But I must be good... keep getting badge and full commissions for wolf upon wolf.

*blows brains out*

[Malcolm the Bear]

PEOPLE WHO DRAW FEMALES WITH MALE ANATOMY.

Just.Fucking.Stop.It.


Herms rule! They are t3h s3x. But Sonic pr0n is awful. There. My tastes in fetishes, and I don't want to impose them on anyone else.

[Hyenaworks]

Drawing WOLF after WOLF after WOLF when I'm doing badges at cons.


You better be the best at drawing wolf heads.


Hahaha. I actually think I suck at wolves because I hate drawing them. But I must be good... keep getting badge and full commissions for wolf upon wolf.

*blows brains out*


Add another wolf and you got an orgy.


Or you could just draw one wolf and time share it.

[Aikon]

Artists that bitch about copyrights and "stolen" artwork, it shows a lack of professionalism when I visit a site to be greeted by rude and obnoxious copyright notices that are implying that I'm there to steal and alter their art and resell it like the jerk I am.

As a rule, I expect copyright notices to be small, and unobtrusive to the viewer (but there). I also expect the artist to be fair to their viewers, don't accuse me of image theft if I'm just visiting said artist's website. You don't have to write "do not steal or alter my artwork", it's like walking into Wal-Mart with a sign that says do not shoplift. I mean seriously, that's retarded. A copyright notice is all that's needed, you did your part.

Lastly, even when you do right your art is (legitimately) victimized, so take legal action. That's why copyright and trademark protection is there. It says a lot about an artist when they don't follow through with their responsabilities.

I'm sure I'll think of more things to bitch about, I'm pretty anal about artists.

[Arshes Nei]

When people use ( c ) instead of © or even "copyright" and bitch about how their character is copyright. It amazes me how people want to protect or bitch about their works but don't bother to do the research themselves.

Your character is not really copyright, however, your work is.

If you can't use the symbol, at least say "copyright" -- ( c ) is an ascii titty.

[Aikon]

I almost forgot about my biggest pet peeve of all.

I hate it when artists sell artwork they drew of commercial characters. Even though I have no personal loss or gain is that situation, it's a principle thing. You're potentially using someone else's schooling, experience, skill, money, and hard work to make yourself a profit or other personal gain. The legality of it is questionable, at least to me because admittedly I haven't studied trademark law extensively enough, but again it's not a matter of fact, it's a matter of principle.

Same goes to the fan artsts like myself that draw commericial characters with no profit or gain, but they put "do no distribute" on it. It kills me.

[emptyF]

i hate not being able to draw yet! i'm impatient! i want my skillz now!

[Sprocket]

Gushing.
The bloody lead snapping.
Getting the fucking thumbs wrong again.
People pointing out that I've got the thumbs wrong again.
People pointing out that I've got the thumbs wrong again and then doing fuck all about it.
Being watched over the shoulder.

[InvaderPichu]

And if he/she hates dickgirls, let him.


Yea, but she also DEMANDED we stop, like it should be everyone else's public duty to make sure she doesn't see what doesn't make her panties wet.

[Ruiner]

To each his own.

[Seux]

Dog faced husky/wolf/balto girls.

End of story.

[Iveechan]

And if he/she hates dickgirls, let him.


Yea, but she also DEMANDED we stop, like it should be everyone else's public duty to make sure she doesn't see what doesn't make her panties wet.


I'm sure she wasn't expecting everyone to stop, it was an expression.

Another. Centaurs with genetalia on the animal part of the chest, like where the upper part's genetalia would be. I'm not big on centaurs anyway but that just makes it look like drawing crotch for crotch's sake. Like dickgirls.

[InvaderPichu]

But after reading a post of hers in another thread, I do think she wants no one to draw dickgirls. She does, after all, want to "rip her fucking computer screen out of her monitor and beat them senseless."

I just find that hypocritical of her, because in another thread she was complaining about people who told her not to do something she enjoys, and that's exactly what she is doing now...

[Iveechan]

Whatever. I'll let her defend herself. I hate dickgirls too.

[Malcolm the Bear]

But after reading a post of hers in another thread, I do think she wants no one to draw dickgirls. She does, after all, want to "rip her fucking computer screen out of her monitor and beat them senseless."

I just find that hypocritical of her, because in another thread she was complaining about people who told her not to do something she enjoys, and that's exactly what she is doing now...


I'd like to see her try to take on Doug Winger. He's way too famous/infamous in the fandom to be stopped, methinkst.

[darkfoxx]

People looking at me draw... from across the room even irks me

Comission requests, no matter how friendly. I draw very VERY little, I have been known to let people wait for a drawing for years.

Having to make people wait for a drawing for years because I cannot draw something that I 'have to' for some odd reason.

People complaining about things they "don't wanna see ZOMG it's horrible it makes my eyes bleed!" instead of just NOT LOOKING at it.

NOT BEING ABLE TO GET COPIC MARKERS IN THE HUGE LOCAL ARTSTORE anymore because I appearently was "the only one buying them" (we have an art academy here, WTF?)

People thinking everything on the net is public property

[Arshes Nei]

People complaining about things they "don't wanna see ZOMG it's horrible it makes my eyes bleed!" instead of just NOT LOOKING at it.



Umm they're saying that because they looked at it...and therefore it is too late, it's not like sometimes you were pre-warned about things. Maybe just saying..."instead of not replying" instead.


On more Pet peeves, artists thinking they need some kind of brand name to make them a great artist or because so and so cool artist used them. Ummm I used crayolas as much as Prismacolor pencils.

I don't see what's so great about copics because they're not cross compatible with other brands of markers sometimes too.

[Ruiner]

I use Prismas more often than Crayolas because they blend well, thats all really.

I know what you mean though, They always want Copics, or Sakura Pigma Pens, and other stuff.

[InvaderPichu]

With natural media, I just use plain mechanical pencils with plain 0.7 lead, from Walmart or something. Costs about $5.

P.S. Roseart sucks.

[Arshes Nei]

I found some dried 99cent markers you give to kids to keep them busy during car trips...

I kinda found a way to make an interesting effect with a bad photocopy and those markers.

I mean it's old now, but not even the best markers will replicate that effect.

NWS: http://www.anime.net/~arshesnei/art/newart/sjshinwattst01.jpg

But it kinda bugs me that everyone thinks the most expensive tools are the best. How about those neat splatter effects because someone used an old toothbrush or found an old cloth that did something neat? Art shouldn't always be sparkly clean CGs!

[Ruiner]

Roseart=Teh Luuse

[Malcolm the Bear]

But it kinda bugs me that everyone thinks the most expensive tools are the best.

Definately the same way in the music world. The best-quality instruments are often middle-of-the-road price, and the best musicians know how to get a good sound off of pretty much any brand (though some brands should just be avoided like the plague anyways--like Jupiter). It's always funny to me to see novice saxophonists getting their parents to pay $8,000 for a shiny instrument with the high G key, and see them strut around with it as if they're all that with their new horn...and yet the best sax players around are humble, everyday Joes with a well-weathered instrument that has very little lacquer left.

Art skills come from within, not from without.

[Seux]

Oh man, on the subject of art supplies, I haaaaaaaaate crayola. Less color pigment, more wax -the fail. They always turn out bad.

[Hyenaworks]

New peeve: Cat crapping on my sketchbook.

[RailRide]

New peeve:**Cat crapping on my sketchbook.


:shock:Tough crowd!

---PCJ

[Luna Nuri]

another pet peeve I have:

and while I do not discourange porn, I actually like it, I just absolutely refuse to draw it for my own personal reasons is when I have someone ask me , "Will you draw me Pr0n???"

"......no......."

"Why not?!"

".....cause it kills babies........."

yea that irks me. For me I like my art to have reason and be tasteful...not mindless spooge even though I don't mind looking at it myself.

[Seux]

Rainbow hair.

[Sukebepanda]

My peeve would have to be continuous asking about the commission process. I like to think I give adequate updates during the drawing of a piece (pre sketch, full sketch, ink outline, flat colors, final piece). Though occasionally I'll get someone who has to ask about their commissions 24/7..so much that I have to hide from them just to get their work done :(

I can understand being eager, but please, give us time to work!

[dendora]

*I get annoyed when an artist only draws themselves/fursona or Mary-Sue... Ahhh, annoying, quit the ego trip.
*I also get annoyed when I draw something obvious and someone says
'what's that?'
'Its her arm' I will reply,
'ohhhh...'
* When people really love their artwork and think its the best of the best and they're oh so talented... Stop being so confident people, the world doesn't need it. XD

[BingFox]

When people who watch me fave/and or comment only on things that I draw for other people or what they draw for me in a trade, and never on any of my regular stuff I make just for me.

[PhoenixDragon]

Oh why not.

People telling me "You should do tattoos." I draw in the break room at work (Yeah, I have to tone it down a bit! hehe), and probably about 2/3 of the people who say anything about it, say that line.

"Hyper-furs." Nevermind the biology involved, for the moment. See, normally I wouldn't care, I just wouldn't look at it, but... I like herms, most of the time. But so many people seem to assume herm == massively over-endowed. So of course, more and more are getting drawn that way. It's even better when they start pointing at my characters, "Hey! You should-" "NO!"

People who assume the only "right" way to do something, is to do it -their- way. You know, like saying an anthro character HAS to have some particular feature of humans or animals to be a "real" anthro. Or that "real dragons" are like this. Fortunately, I've rarely come across this...

For that matter, medium snobs. You know, the people who say stuff like only natural wood pencils are good for drawing, and that drawings with mechanical pencils will never be good. Or that you have to use colored pencils instead of markers. Or that colored pencils suck. Or digital coloring sucks. You know what? If people can make good art out of hardened lumps of earth, I'm pretty sure you can do decently with almost any other choice of tools, too.

People who dramatically adjust the value of their artwork beyond what it really is. There are two types, here. One is generally the good artist, often VERY good, who constantly bemoans his art as terrible. Bonus points if they've got a large group of fanboys to immediately chime in that their art is truely great. The other type can be of almost any skill level, but tend to be on the lower end, and who proclaim their art to be SO MUCH BETTER than it really is. They tend to have a lovely ego...

And to wrap up, people who make a huge deal of complaining about someone else's harmless fetishes.

[izartist]

I hate when my 0.5 mechanical pencil won't sketch right no matter how I try when the lead is really sharp or when I use a different brand or get new lead.

I also hate paper that shreds when I go over the same spot with my said 0.5 pencil to make a line darker. Or how some paper shreds when you erase alot on it.

I also dislike much of what people have already been said they dislike in this thread.

[TheListener]

Roseart=Teh Luuse


Their #2 pencils rock, though...

As for me, I'd say my biggest pet peeve is a lack of detail put into clothing. I'd love to see clothing designed for the tails, instead of the tail just magically poking out of the rear.

[JonnyAMax]

I hate when my 0.5 mechanical pencil won't sketch right no matter how I try when the lead is really sharp or when I use a different brand or get new lead.

I also hate paper that shreds when I go over the same spot with my said 0.5 pencil to make a line darker.**Or how some paper shreds when you erase alot on it.

I also dislike much of what people have already been said they dislike in this thread.


thats actually funny because I'm the same way with 0.7 pencils with he thicker led, also depending on what kind of paper I'm using I cant sketch that well either without smearing all over :

[JonnyAMax]

I'm sure this has already been adressed already but one worded comments like "cool" or "nice" or "cute"(I get that one most out of all), I'll admit my artwork is of the "cute" persuasion but I would appreciate it if people actually said what or why they liked the picture in question. Even if it's just a simple "hey I like how you drew the face" that at least gives me an idea or "the ears look kinda off a bit" that works too.

I could rant about people who fav my stuff and dont comment on it but... really a fav's a fav so I won't spit on it. *shrugs*

[goat]

people who are bullshittedly modest about their ability, like way modest like "AMG MY ART SUCKS SO BAD ;_;" when its not shitty its pretty damn good, and theyre just trolling for compliments.

[izartist]

people who are bullshittedly modest about their ability, like way modest like "AMG MY ART SUCKS SO BAD ;_;" when its not shitty its pretty damn good, and theyre just trolling for compliments.


Ever hear about the saying "I am my worst critic?"

Some artist honestly feel that way about their art. I myself don't think my art is shit, but I know I'm not the best artist around.

[DragonMagica]

+People that fav without commenting
+People who fav EVERYTHING I submit without commenting on any of them
+People dumping an art request on you without asking if you want to do it first
+Trying to color with my colored pencil and it breaks, and breaks even when I sharpen it, and sharpen it, and sharpen it.

[manderina]

- Squeaky pencil lead. ^^;
- People looking through my sketchbooks without asking. (Because sometimes you don't want to explain why you decided to draw a character nude.)
- Like most other people, being watched while drawing. (I don't mind my parents doing it though for some reason.)
- Doing a full-color picture for an art trade and getting a rushed sketch or doodle in return (or no drawing at all) when the other person agreed to a full-color piece as well.

As for peeves about other artists:
- Artists who think they're the gods' gift to the world. A little ego is fine though. :3
- 'Artists' who post 2MB+ scans of a piece of notebook paper that has a faint little pencil doodle in the corner (without cropping).

[chicago-lollie]

Human cocks on anthro guys. What happened to sheathlove? :'(

[Hanazawa]

Human cocks on anthro guys. What happened to sheathlove? :'(


Hahaha. I happen to hate seeing animal penises on anthros. Because even though I draw furries, I still like humans. Some animal dongs are scary-looking and not attractive to me at all. :<

/me ponders the possibility of getting that added as a search/browse/filter option

[DarkMeW]

everything

[Suule]

People who ask me "What did you take/smoke/drink to draw that".

Stop that

[Iveechan]

Human cocks on anthro guys. What happened to sheathlove? :'(


If it walks like a human, it fucks like a human. I tolerate animalish dongs on anthroes and used to draw it myself, but these days I prefer human genitals.

I forgot if I mentioned this, BUT IT IS WORTH MENTIONING AGAIN! 100% super-realistic animal heads on an anthro. It's kind of awkward. Imagine something with a tiny braincase standing upright and with opposable thumbs. Yeah.

[Bokracroc]

+People who fav EVERYTHING I submit without commenting on any of them

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6835/yesvi8.jpg
I find it very stalkerish. They +Watch you, then procede to +Fav EVERYTHING you do.

[JonnyAMax]

+People who fav EVERYTHING I submit without commenting on any of them

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6835/yesvi8.jpg
I find it very stalkerish. They +Watch you, then procede to +Fav EVERYTHING you do.


I've actually had that happen to me before, some dude faved my entire gallery and didn't comment on crap. But I really didn't think to much of it... mabey he's watching me this very second o.o;;; *looks behind myself*

[Arshes Nei]

People who worry about people +faving stuff and not commenting. Then people complaining about the quality of comments because they don't like "Cool" I mean I can see how people hate artists because of this. Most artists can't even give a good description as to why they posted up their work, yet expect quality comments on it...uhh o.O?

[Randomlizard]

I dun give much comments on my art cause I try to let the art speak for itself.
as for what irks me a little bit as an artist. people who email you a few times going "Could you do a commission?" then when I say "sure" I dun hear back from then for a few months and then it's "sorry, I changed my mind"

[facek]

Female Hyenas with vaginas.

[uncia2000]

Female Hyenas with vaginas.

If you're meaning spottys, technically they do ( http://www.vet.cornell.edu/labs/place/publications/11Cunha%20et%20al.2003.pdf [not worksafe ^^]), regardless of any other anatomical "quirks". ;)

Anthro analogs are anyone's call, I guess. :)

[InvaderPichu]

Human cocks on anthro guys. What happened to sheathlove? :'(


Hahaha. I happen to hate seeing animal penises on anthros.

I like both types so it doesn't really matter to me. :o


But what I do find slightly annoying is seeing human cocks on animal bodies.

[Xan_vega]

My big pet peeve? I guess it would be the elitist snobs who jump all up and down my throat for anytime I get something off like hands, feet, legs... basically anything. I am legally blind even with my glasses on and I have a very bad tendancy to be shaky when I draw. I know I am not perfect, heck I don't even claim to be good, so no need to beat me over the head.

Another pet peeve, when some one begs to see something and then they are unimpressed. I wish showing my art to my folks was like posting on here, at least people here can act polite or feign interest.

[Randomlizard]

My big pet peeve? I guess it would be the elitist snobs who jump all up and down my throat for anytime I get something off like hands, feet, legs... basically anything. I am legally blind even with my glasses on and I have a very bad tendancy to be shaky when I draw. I know I am not perfect, heck I don't even claim to be good, so no need to beat me over the head.




I agree that some of them may be elitist, but artists need to be able to handle good and bad criticism. While I agree it sucks when people are picking apart your art, ask how you can improve it when they say that something looks off. It's hard to improve if no-one points out what your doing wrong. I go to an artschool where I major in animation, I have people constantly picking apart my work. Hell, one instructor would rip up what your working on and tell you to start over. Just be glad you dun have to deal with that.

[izartist]

Female Hyenas with vaginas.

If you're meaning spottys, technically they do ( http://www.vet.cornell.edu/labs/place/publications/11Cunha%20et%20al.2003.pdf [not worksafe ^^]), regardless of any other anatomical "quirks". ;)

Anthro analogs are anyone's call, I guess. :)


Now that was a well put together presntation. Rather interesting I might add. Thanks for showing it.

[XeNoX]

Female Hyenas with vaginas.

If you're meaning spottys, technically they do ( http://www.vet.cornell.edu/labs/place/publications/11Cunha%20et%20al.2003.pdf [not worksafe ^^]), regardless of any other anatomical "quirks". ;)

Anthro analogs are anyone's call, I guess. :)


I love you, I have been searching high and low for this ! :3

ps: technicly, roos have two vaginas wheeee

[Bokracroc]

Bloody hell! What's with everyone's fascination with Kangaroos?!

[Arshes Nei]

My big pet peeve? I guess it would be the elitist snobs who jump all up and down my throat for anytime I get something off like hands, feet, legs... basically anything. I am legally blind even with my glasses on and I have a very bad tendancy to be shaky when I draw. I know I am not perfect, heck I don't even claim to be good, so no need to beat me over the head.

I agree that some of them may be elitist, but artists need to be able to handle good and bad criticism. While I agree it sucks when people are picking apart your art, ask how you can improve it when they say that something looks off. It's hard to improve if no-one points out what your doing wrong. I go to an artschool where I major in animation, I have people constantly picking apart my work. Hell, one instructor would rip up what your working on and tell you to start over. Just be glad you dun have to deal with that.


Well for me even though it's good for an improvement standpoint, I dunno why artists think their art is the Bible or something. Art has always been subjective, so just because you think everyone else will enjoy it, there are those who may not and will say it. I think though as a person you should also be able to defend your piece as well, but worrying about not getting the comments you want, well...then you miss the point of art, because everyone comes off with a different interpretation. So trying to manipulate it or make it lack sincerity can also take away the value of your own piece.

[nrr]

If you're meaning spottys, technically they do ( http://www.vet.cornell.edu/labs/place/publications/11Cunha%20et%20al.2003.pdf [not worksafe ^^]), regardless of any other anatomical "quirks". ;)
NSFW? Bullshit! Scientific papers are by definition safe for work. They enhance the general wealth of knowledge in academic circles and are, in general, very good to have around.

That being said, some of the content in that paper isn't for the squeamish, but it doesn't make it NSFW by any stretch. :)

[Hanazawa]

If you're meaning spottys, technically they do ( http://www.vet.cornell.edu/labs/place/publications/11Cunha%20et%20al.2003.pdf [not worksafe ^^]), regardless of any other anatomical "quirks". ;)
NSFW? Bullshit! Scientific papers are by definition safe for work. They enhance the general wealth of knowledge in academic circles and are, in general, very good to have around.

That being said, some of the content in that paper isn't for the squeamish, but it doesn't make it NSFW by any stretch. :)


Ya rly. My science instructor warned us we'd be learning about and probably seeing videos with "scientific, but sexually explicit" material... but she didn't warn us that we'd be watching a video of live, natural human birth, and that was just DNKTJYKRFWALA DO NOT WANT.

[Thaily]

Human cocks on anthro guys. What happened to sheathlove? :'(


That's funny, my pet peeve is people who insist I draw animal cocks on my males/herms.
Like I -want- to look at photos of animal genitalia for an hour to get it just right. Because if you don't animal-cock-lovers will whine about it's not anatomically correct.
I mean, if people are paying me it's one thing, but I get a lot of non-paying weeners whining about how I "should" draw animal cocks because it's "realistic". Even if it's a commission or a gift for someone who specifically wanted a humanoid member.

Which reminds me of pet peeve# 2
People who want me to change things about art that's intended for -other- people just so -they- can fap to it.

Which is related to pet peeve #3
People who think "Bigger boobz plz" is a serious and useful critique rather than a pointless expression of personal preference.
These are usually the non-drawing armchair critics who think everyone always wants their opinion and if you don't follow their every suggestion ("Bigger boobz plz") they whine about how you can't take critique.

Which brings me to pet peeve #4
If someone does take their advice these people's egos bloat up to grotesque proportions and they start bragging about it to other people and dropping names. Hell if you acknowledge these people at all they go 'round telling people " Max Blackrabbit once smiled at me in passing at a convention, you may now bow down and worship me!"

Fame doesn't rub off, fuck off and let me get some work done!
And don't look over my shoulder! Seriously, WTF?!

[Arshes Nei]

Artist pet peeve: When an artist starts a journal and uses bad "net math" to make things more dramatic to get sympathy.

For example an artist gets one comment that they didn't like on their piece, that artist makes a journal and uses exaggerations or "net math" to say "A lot of people"...or "Everyone" ..."didn't like this piece and said it sucks"

It's a nice little manipulation ploy to get sheep fans who don't know about the details to start up lynch mobs and to immediately say the other party was wrong to kiss up to the artist in their journal.

It gets me that their fans fall for it every time instead of asking questions or finding out about the whole situation.

[Sylvine]

Most things already have been mentioned... looking over the shoulder,etc,etc.

What I really have to disagree is the part about artists commenting their work with "Oh, this so sucks" just to get attention. I mean, really, think about it - if You look at what was scraps to DaVinci or You'll probably say: "Crap, I could never do something as good as that." This works on lower levels, too. Something that is just a 30 minute sketch to me and lands in "scraps" on my gallery could very well be seen as good by someone who's simply worse at drawing.
An other thing is that some artists do tend to look at their work in comparison to the work of others. I am one of them, actually. I look at my finished piece and think to myself:"Damn, Ashryn could have done that at least 5times better...crap. I have to practice more." Because, in comparison, Artwork [i]tends to be bad, and most people will never be satisfied with their own work. Also, of course they'll see flaws that other people (people with less skill,most of the time) just don't see. Like minor anatomy/proportion flaws, composition mistakes, colors that seem to be a bit off, such things.
Of course: Yes, it's also a more or less subconcious way of saying:"Tell me I'm wrong. Give me some praise!". But, eh, everyone wants some reassurance, eh? And personally, I'll take a good, maybe a bit too modest artist over a bad one with a gargantuan ego anytime...

now,those two things lead me to some irritating things I experienced myself:

#1: People who either whine about not getting constructive comments OR who point out their own flaws ( also saying that this sucks,that sucks,and the whole picture overall sucks ) but just can't accept critique. If someone says the proportions are a bit off, then asks for constructive comments, and then, after someone replies with "You know,You're right, the proportions ARE a bit off, and the left leg is a bit too thick", say - hah! - if You don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. So: Generally people who use the term "constructive criticism" in every second sentence, yet fail to grasp what that phrase really means.

#2:People who say:"C'mon, that picture doesn't suck - it's 100 times better than anything I could do." Especially when it comes from people who just can't draw at all. Really, what kind of a compliment is that, anyway? It neither makesme feel better nor does it offer anything constructive. I'm a bit weird with that, I admit, but... I sometimes just can't stand it.

#3.Okay,maybe I'm the only one who noticed ( or who really cares ), but what is it with people who never use their "scraps" subsection? It greatly irritates me when my submissions of finished images go under because some users post 10-20 "submissions" at once - actually suboptimal, unfinished, dark and blurry lineouts. I'd give an example, but I don't want to quote names - just hit the "browse" button anytime, there are examples galore.
Call me an attention whore if You wish. Maybe I deserve it... I want my Images to be seen, as well, and who am I to tell which images are "good" and which are "bad"? Especially since I'm not exactly at the top of the technical heap myself. But, c'mon - there are pieces out there marked as submissions that look like scraps, feel like scraps,simply ARE nothing more than 30-minutes-at-most-doodles. Why not just put them under scraps? I know some people do.But they seem to be in the minority.
*sigh* But maybe I'm really the only one around who has a problem with that...

~Sylv

[facek]

Female Hyenas with vaginas.

If you're meaning spottys, technically they do ( http://www.vet.cornell.edu/labs/place/publications/11Cunha%20et%20al.2003.pdf [not worksafe ^^]), regardless of any other anatomical "quirks". ;)

Anthro analogs are anyone's call, I guess. :)


Well of course anyone can draw what they want, but it's still a pet peeve of mine. I mean it's just devaluing one of the coolest evolutions ever.

Besides, all of my other Pet Peeves were said already.

[uncia2000]

Well of course anyone can draw what they want, but it's still a pet peeve of mine. I mean it's just devaluing one of the coolest evolutions ever.

So long as yer not a spotty, that is... Extremely high mortality for first litters (interest poss. impact onto anthros, phps?), to say nothing of same-sex sib aggression at birth thanks to those raging hormones. 'Tis a strange one, indeed.

Besides, all of my other Pet Peeves were said already.

Some people are not easily riled, it seems. :)

[Arshes Nei]

This... contradicts...


What I really have to disagree is the part about artists commenting their work with "Oh, this so sucks" just to get attention. I mean, really, think about it - if You look at what was scraps to DaVinci or You'll probably say: "Crap, I could never do something as good as that." This works on lower levels, too. Something that is just a 30 minute sketch to me and lands in "scraps" on my gallery could very well be seen as good by someone who's simply worse at drawing.


With this:

#1: People who either whine about not getting constructive comments OR who point out their own flaws ( also saying that this sucks,that sucks,and the whole picture overall sucks ) but just can't accept critique. If someone says the proportions are a bit off, then asks for constructive comments, and then, after someone replies with "You know,You're right, the proportions ARE a bit off, and the left leg is a bit too thick", say - hah! - if You don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. So: Generally people who use the term "constructive criticism" in every second sentence, yet fail to grasp what that phrase really means.


But it also contracticts with...

#2:People who say:"C'mon, that picture doesn't suck - it's 100 times better than anything I could do." Especially when it comes from people who just can't draw [i]at all. Really, what kind of a compliment is that, anyway? It neither makesme feel better nor does it offer anything constructive. I'm a bit weird with that, I admit, but... I sometimes just can't stand it.
~Sylv


You want people to give constructive comments on their work, but it's ok to say it sucks? It sucks is NOT a constructive comment. However, the person in example 2 is giving you a constructive comment. They're telling you why it doesn't suck. It doesn't matter if it makes you feel better or not.

Is it any wonder people go crazy over the idiosyncrasies? I understand they're peeves, but they're peeves that cause other peeves :lol:

Look, if you really think it sucks it would not get posted period. No one is twisting your hand, threatening your life, and saying they'll rape your neighbor's cat if you don't post it. You post it because you don't think it sucks.

You may think it's not as good as <insert favorite artist> or not my best work but at least that's a more acceptable statement than "it sucks".

[Randomlizard]

Look, if you really think it sucks it would not get posted period. No one is twisting your hand, threatening your life, and saying they'll rape your neighbor's cat if you don't post it. You post it because you don't think it sucks.



That's exactly why i don't post stuff very often. most of my work is either stuff for class and has no reason to be on this site or just isn't anything more than a doodle. That and i need to actually stop playing warcraft so much

[Kittiara]

Ever notice how you doodle something and everybody favs it and makes stupid comments that don't even relate to the art?
Then you work your ass off on something and it doesn't get any attention?

Ha. Ha. Ha.

[WelcomeTheCollapse]

Anthros with lipstick.

SOMETHING HERE DOES NOT BELONG.

[Arshes Nei]

Anthros with lipstick.

SOMETHING HERE DOES NOT BELONG.


How so, if they have lips, they can wear lipstick XD

Now Furs with tattoos is HUH, specially thick furred.

[izartist]

Ever notice how you doodle something and everybody favs it and makes stupid comments that don't even relate to the art?
Then you work your ass off on something and it doesn't get any attention?

Ha. Ha. Ha.


Isn't it great? *sarcasm*

Also a pet peeve of mine.

[WelcomeTheCollapse]

Anthros with lipstick.

SOMETHING HERE DOES NOT BELONG.


How so, if they have lips, they can wear lipstick XD


Well, let's take a cat anthro. I've seen several with lipstick, and it bugs the shit out of me. Where do you put it? Over the fur? Why?

/Then again, never found lipstick that attractive in real life, either.

[Arshes Nei]

Well, let's take a cat anthro. I've seen several with lipstick, and it bugs the shit out of me. Where do you put it? Over the fur? Why?

/Then again, never found lipstick that attractive in real life, either.


Well I can find mild lipstick attractive, it just depends on application.

However, we are talking about a mix of human and furry characteristics. Not all anthros are drawn with "furry lips" many are drawn with more human styled lips. Anthro "cat" can be done with so many interpretations as well. Should you use animal genitals, or human genitals on your anthro as well?

[Rhainor]

...Should you use animal genitals, or human genitals on your anthro as well?

On that note, I get really tired of seeing human-style wangs on anthro characters.

[Darby]

Someone standing over your shoulder while you are drawing and asking: "DID YOU DRAW THAT?!?!"

No I have no @#$#@ idea how this got on my paper


LOL, come on that's fucking priceless. It gives you a clear perspective on society and the people therein. It reminds me...

Back in highschool I had a girl declare to the class that she used to taunt and/or abuse me in Elementary school and then in the same breath say 'She's a great artist' and ask if I'd draw her something.

I do so love the peoples. :3

[Darby]

I've looked through a lot of these and I suppose I have a lot of standard peeves, however, I haven't really felt too strongly about anything for awhile. The only thing that really annoys me is when people tell me how they're getting off on my pictures. Of course it happens, but I neither need or care to know. As a woman, I'm not particularly interested in how I'm effecting the populous' private parts.

That being said, I can't stand the people who purposefully do it because they know I don't care to hear it. It just comes off as a really sad cry for attention. I do I know the interweb isn't the best place to look for maturity, but come on. ^_~

Anyway, even that doesn't really bother me because the wonderfulness of the textual world is that it can be ignored. In real life when people look over my shoulder when I draw, it totally screws me up, when people go through my sketchbook it kind of feels like an invasion of privacy unless I hand it over. :3 Really, just normal stuff. The only other thing I can think of off hand is people linking to their sites and saying 'Have you looked at my work yet' on the comment of a drawing.

Zen. :3

[mirroreyes]

Being told my art would be so much better, or rather, "more respectable" if I replaced the anthros with humans. Somehow I only seem to get this complaint when I'm drawing a commission that specifies a furry character.

It also pisses me off when an artist is considered TOP NOTCH when they only seem to be able to draw idealistic humans. Even if they suck at animal anatomy. Those kind of artists can stick the crappiest wings on a person, but as long as that person is muscular and in a heroic pose everyone LOVES it! I'm mostly picking on a variety of comic book and fantasy artists here. Not all of them do this, I'm just blowing off steam.

[KristynLioness]

I hate it when someone just leaves a one word comment. I'd rather they say nothing and just fave it =P I also don't like it when people whore after my fursona. HELLO I'm mated =P She is not for you and never will be. Also can't stand it when I work really hard on something and it just flat out gets ignored like my werelion I posted last week. I worked for three days on that thing. Asslickers are something the art world could use less of too. That's just kinda creepy =p

[BijouxDeFoxxe]

I dunno if it applies to me, but i HATE when people get all whiney and emo cus somebdoy DARES give them a critique. And then they get their army of zombie fans to attack the person who gave the critique... even when it's a legitimate critique. And the whiney person wants to get into art professionally. Professional art is ALL about critique.

Also, I just hate when people look over my shoulder when I draw. It's like,"YOU'LL SEE IT WHEN I'M DONE. GO AWAY NOW!"

[Darby]

I dunno if it applies to me, but i HATE when people get all whiney and emo cus somebdoy DARES give them a critique.**And then they get their army of zombie fans to attack the person who gave the critique... even when it's a legitimate critique.**And the whiney person wants to get into art professionally.**Professional art is ALL about critique.

Also, I just hate when people look over my shoulder when I draw.**It's like,"YOU'LL SEE IT WHEN I'M DONE.**GO AWAY NOW!"


It's funny as I've always found people getting whiny about a critique kind of a testament. It the person doesn't intend on becoming a professional, that's of course fine and if the person doesn't care to improve their art (not necessarily that piece) then it's also fine. Otherwise it makes little to no sense.

Without critiques you'd never catch everything and naturally you can't improve if you don't know what to improve. :p

[Sieneko]

Without critiques you'd never catch everything and naturally you can't improve if you don't know what to improve. :p

Exactly! I welcome critique 99% of the time. It just irks me sometimes how someone with a huge fanbase draws something and gets scads of comments of blind praise, while there is something very seriously flawed with the picture. I REALLY want to jump in and make a nice critique, but of course even the most polite ones will get you in trouble with their rabid fanbases. "OMG! How dare you say that to the great so-and-so!" O_o

And about the human-style wangs... I actually don't mind them. I prefer them, in fact. Yes it's an animal-based character, but they also have human characteristics that people are free to play around with design-wise. Heh, without going into too much detail, I like "tweaking" things around depending on the species (no little cojones for the reptiles), but the general shape usually stays human-esque. If it's too animal-like it actually is a turn-off. Eh, just personal preference I suppose.

And one more thing: Suck-up pictures! Where one artist draws for another only to kiss some butt and try and gain some status. "Ooooh, I drew a picture for so-and-so! Lookit meeeee!" I can understand some simple genuine gift art, but come on! >_<