...Don't wear this in public? WHAT?!

[Kitshera Aureana]

Kay. Ranting time.

You know.

I know several furries.

But I've only heard this from like.. 2 or 3 of them.

"Don't wear tails or ears in public."

Personally, here's my response to that.

Saying that makes you look like an insecure nitwit and makes you look like someone who has to cover up their own insecurities by telling someone else not to do something else they fear doing themselves. If you have a problem with it, personally, I don't think anyone cares. In simularity, it's the same thing as telling someone not to wear a certain article of clothing or not to do a certain thing, because it makes a certain appearance or makes you look different.

Different = Good.
Uniqueness = Good.

It's expressing who you are and what you care about. It has nothing to do with anything, and if anyone thinks anything weird of it, it shouldn't matter anyway. It should never matter what anyone thinks, just it should matter what you think and believe.

On another note, wearing tails and ears isn't childish beyond any means. It's just another symbol of expression, just as many other things are in this world.

If you wish to say differently to me, then go right ahead, opinions should be allowed and freely expressed. Go fot it! Hee hee. *wags her tail*

</mymajorpetpeeveatm>

"If I am not to be who I truly am, than who am I to be?" - My quote =P

[XianJaguar]

There's a time and place for everything though.
You wouldn't attend a black-tie affair in a floral-print 2-piece Bikini, and you aren't going to wear a Dominatrix outfit to a (normal) church service.

Ears and tails in public CAN have a 'time and place', but I wouldn't wear them just 'anywhere' in public to 'express myself' any more than I would wear *just* a bikini just 'anywhere' in public (ie, to the supermarket).

[Luna Nuri]

I have actually had random fits and worn a tail in public.

But I normally won't because well I'm a evil looking person naturally.

but when there are public furmeets then i will wear on for the hell of it. And cons are perfect to wear your stuff at.

But seriously......if it's something people shouldn't wear it's girls who are chubby as hell wearing goddamn pants that show the crack of their ass and flip flops in winter!!! That and guys who sag in their pants. If you want to wear your pants big and have them sag have the decency to wear a fucking belt.

[Silverdragon00]

But seriously......if it's something people shouldn't wear it's girls who are chubby as hell wearing goddamn pants that show the crack of their ass and flip flops in winter!!! That and guys who sag in their pants. If you want to wear your pants big and have them sag have the decency to wear a fucking belt.


THANK YOU!!!!! :D

[Dragoneer]

I went to a furmeet at a mall in Pennsylvania where the gayest guy you could EVER imagine was earing lil' cheetah ears on top of his shaved head, and he stood out like a sore thumb. Everybody said, "Hey! Let's go out to dinner!" and I was completely embarassed to be seen standing next to him.

I don't hate furry or anything, nor do I give a shit how people look... but certain things are just entirely situational. Honestly, it's a consideration to the other people around you that should be matter most. If you wanna wear ears or tails in public and your friends don't mind, hey, why not, right? But if people are uncomfortable being around it, there should be a courtesy to keep that weirdness tucked away for consideration purposes.

[Hyenaworks]

I don't wear my tail in public cause quite frankly, I don't want it damaged. Too many public hazzards. ¬.¬

[The Ancient Mariner]

I'll say this: If the situation presents itself (NOT at job interviews, jury duty, funerals), and you use discretion, then yes, I'll say it's okay.

However, I warn you: Once you don the ears and tail in public, you're advertising your furriocity to the world. There's no secret anymore. I've always considered the Fandom to be sort of a secret society, not unlike Freemasonry. You can express yourself if you want-- there's no harm in that-- but then, well, then the magic is gone, isn't it?

PS: Please note that I am not exactly being entirely serious here.

[Hanazawa]

I've seen people wearing NARUTO COSPLAY around my campus... just, no. No. No No No.

There is a difference between being unique and looking like an idiot. If you want to look like an idiot, fine, but don't be surprised when someone calls you what you are.

[The Ancient Mariner]

I've seen people wearing NARUTO COSPLAY around my campus... just, no. No. No No No.

There is a difference between being unique and looking like an idiot. If you want to look like an idiot, fine, but don't be surprised when someone calls you what you are.


Well, when you wear a tail and ears in public, you can be seen as anything from quirky to pervy to funny to sexy. But when you wear anime cosplay in public, you can't be seen as anything but a dork. I'm sorry, but there it is. Feel free to debate me.

[Hanazawa]

Actually, I think I'm in total agreement with you there, Mariner. Some people can pull off a random cat-ear-day for cuteness, but anime is just... no.

[Kitshera Aureana]

Making replies here.  ^^ I'm going to make a reply to pretty much every post regarding this topic.  On a note, I'm not angry at all if I would ever seem to be.  I'm just expressing my opinion and answering back.  I like to hear what others have in response.

@Xian Jaguar- Well I see what you're saying, but I'm not talking about wearing it to a "specific gathering."  People aren't technically supposed to wear certain things to certain places, so therefore, I respect people's views on that and I'd restrict myself.

However, I still don't see anything wrong with wearing it anywhere else personally.  At a supermarket I -would- wear it.  Thing is, people always get offended by something in this world, regardless of what it is.  People are always yelling and fussing about certain trends, certain clothing people wear and overall everyone is offended by everyone, so how should this be any different?

..Off topic, but I like your name.  Tis cool. =P

@Luna Nuri- Lols, agreed.  Rofl.

@Dragoneer- I don't really understand why you were embarrassed to be seen standing next to him.  He just chose to look differently.  *shrugs*

As said again, there's always going to be something someone's going to be offended and unconfortable by.  Directly known from human nature is that humans naturally fear the unknown.  It frightens them and makes them unconfortable.  I do have consideration for people's feelings, but for this subject it seems quite ridiculous.

@Ancient Mariner- Well personally, as far as keeping my "furry world" secret-- I don't, and I never have.  Everyone who's ever asked me about myself, I've told them I have a deep belief of seeing myself as another creature on the inside.  I've got some weird faces, from actually aimly 95% of the people I've told that, but really I couldn't care.  It's who I am, if they don't want to accept it, that's not my deal.  As a last note as well, I don't label myself as a furry because I have a refusal to stick to a "media" type label.  *not calling furry within the media or some sorts, but perhaps you understand what I'm trying to reference as?*  I prefer providing an explanation of myself as opposed to what one is catagorized since there's so many different meaning within furry itself.

More responses? :D  I'm on the search for knowledge and people's understandings/opions as well. =)

[Kattywampus]

Hell, I've worn my Fursuit to the grocery store. I don't give a $#%@.
Not something I do every day, though.
In fact, look at THIS PICTURE FOR PROOF (http://www.kattywampus.com/random/Morphicon2004_22.jpg)!
And if I'm just wearing ears and tail, I usually get positive comments.

[Kitshera Aureana]

@ The Ancient Mariner and Hanazawa- LOL yes, anyone who wears that will be considered and dork and someone that looks like a complete idiot-- but I've done it before. lawlz.

I was probably seen as a complete idiot.

Did I care? Nah.

Maybe I'm just defaulted by the fact I don't really have any insecurities.

Of course I did it just because I was proud of my cosplay and wanted to walk around in it. =D I'm still proud of what I did. Har har.

[Kitshera Aureana]

Hell, I've worn my Fursuit to the grocery store.  I don't give a $#%@.
Not something I do every day, though.
In fact, look at THIS PICTURE FOR PROOF (http://www.kattywampus.com/random/Morphicon2004_22.jpg)!
And if I'm just wearing ears and tail, I usually get positive comments.


HI I MET YOO WHEN I LIVED IN OHIO. KAY.

Well liek, um. My friend I had at the time, Alpine, let me dress in his kangaroo costume and I humped a stop sign and went accross the street to a gas station and it was awesome.

You earn 200000 cool points.

Also I always get postive comments as well XD People always tell me it's cute and I got kids who became like..fanboys of a tv show o.o

[Dragoneer]

@Dragoneer- I don't really understand why you were embarrassed to be seen standing next to him. He just chose to look differently. *shrugs*

Because I don't like attention called to me... and having every single passerby stopping to look over and gawk, point and make comments is really, REALLY uncomfortable for me.

[Kitshera Aureana]

@Dragoneer- I don't really understand why you were embarrassed to be seen standing next to him.  He just chose to look differently.  *shrugs*

Because I don't like attention called to me... and having every single passerby stopping to look over and gawk, point and make comments is really, REALLY  uncomfortable for me.


Ah, I see, that's understandable. ^^ *nods*

[Hyenaworks]

I'll say this: If the situation presents itself (NOT at job interviews, jury duty, funerals), and you use discretion, then yes, I'll say it's okay.

However, I warn you: Once you don the ears and tail in public, you're advertising your furriocity to the world. There's no secret anymore. I've always considered the Fandom to be sort of a secret society, not unlike Freemasonry. You can express yourself if you want-- there's no harm in that-- but then, well, then the magic is gone, isn't it?

PS: Please note that I am not exactly being entirely serious here.


Screw you. I'm going fursuit for a funeral and I will have noise makers of all kinds and a big "We're #1" foam finger.

[Bokracroc]

I've seen people wearing NARUTO COSPLAY around my campus... just, no. No. No No No.
Ha ha. The funniest Cosplayers are the ones that think they're cool or they're good.
Cosplayers need to remember they are just someone dressed up as some anime person, nothing more.

There is a difference between being unique and looking like an idiot. If you want to look like an idiot, fine, but don't be surprised when someone calls you what you are.
Anyone trying to be unique will always be labeled as an idiot (or a fool, freak, weirdo, whatever) by someone esle.

If you don't like getting the attention then blend in the background :roll:

[Evol]

No. Just no.

[Ruiner]

Saying that makes you look like an insecure nitwit and makes you look like someone who has to cover up their own insecurities by telling someone else not to do something else they fear doing themselves.

Maybe they don't have fear of doing it themselves... maybe they know...

IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A MORON.

Everyone around you becomes mondo-self-concious. And their all thinking one thing...

"What the hell is this guy doing with ears and junk on?"

[Malcolm the Bear]

People would stop worrying so much about what other people think of them if they realized how little and infrequently others really DO think about them.

[cesarin]

There's a time and place for everything though.
You wouldn't attend a black-tie affair in a floral-print 2-piece Bikini, and you aren't going to wear a Dominatrix outfit to a (normal) church service.

Ears and tails in public CAN have a 'time and place', but I wouldn't wear them just 'anywhere' in public to 'express myself' any more than I would wear *just* a bikini just 'anywhere' in public (ie, to the supermarket).

I supose the good thing of living ni a touristic beach is.. we see Women in bikini or even surfing suits (mrr) at cheap restaurants and at the supermarkets, not very usual but let's say 2-3 times per season :P

ID bet the town (surfer town )wich is a north of my town, would see these scenes way more constantly

[Moon-Baby]

I've seen people wearing NARUTO COSPLAY around my campus...

I have too...
One of those headbands.

I also think theres a time and place to wear that stuff.
It's not like something to be ashamed of, but still....
With friends, relaxed setting, yes.
Someplace like.....uh....someplace "upclass", nuh.

[InvaderPichu]

But how does wearing a fake tail and ears make you feel more like the animal that you feel you are "spiritually"? I've worn ears and a tail...at Halloween...and the ears were so uncomfortable every year, no matter what kind I bought.

[Gar-Yulong]

But how does wearing a fake tail and ears make you feel more like the animal that you feel you are "spiritually"? I've worn ears and a tail...at Halloween...and the ears were so uncomfortable every year, no matter what kind I bought.


So when did this become part of the conversation? =D She never made her reasons known, maybe she just likes wearing them for the novelty of it.

Assuming makes an ass out of you, and makes me laugh. =D

[Arshes Nei]

Then wear your ears and tail, if you feel it's your right, it's also someone else's right to mercilessly mock, point out and/or make fun of you for wearing them in public. It goes both ways.

You have a "Right" to wear them where it's allowed and people have a right to make fun of you.

BTW there is no constitutional gaurantee that keeps one from being "offended" so yeah, take the consequences of your actions before getting upset at what others think (adding...at least in the US).

[Evol]

Thank you for stating what I didn't.


Then wear your ears and tail, if you feel it's your right, it's also someone else's right to mercilessly mock, point out and/or you for wearing them in public. It goes both ways.

[InvaderPichu]

But how does wearing a fake tail and ears make you feel more like the animal that you feel you are "spiritually"? I've worn ears and a tail...at Halloween...and the ears were so uncomfortable every year, no matter what kind I bought.


So when did this become part of the conversation? =D She never made her reasons known, maybe she just likes wearing them for the novelty of it.

Assuming makes an ass out of you, and makes me laugh. =D


Sup retard? :D

Generally, that is why MOST furries wear the ears, tails, or even fursuits. So they can "feel" more like an animal (at least from what *I've* witnessed). My question wasn't just aimed at the OP in general, but to anyone who wears the stuff for this particular reason.

Besides, she even said that she sees herself as another creature on the inside, so that further leads me to believe she wears the tail and ears to "feel" more like the animal she believes she is, or at least to try and look the part. My question was legit, and it wasn't worded rudely at all.

But go ahead and continue to be an asshole. You're only making yourself look bad.

[XNexusDragonX]

Does a furry tran wearing fake boobs, corset and dress to a furmeet in the capital of England count?

[Evol]

That's its own level of "special".


Does a furry tran wearing fake boobs, corset and dress to a furmeet in the capital of England count?

[dave hyena]

Does a furry tran wearing fake boobs, corset and dress to a furmeet in the capital of England count?


No one ever wanted to go to the british museam, even though they have an ancient asyrian birdman wall carving in there. :(

As for the main topic, I think it is that sometimes the more one tries to make oneself appear unique and different with one's dress, the more one looks the same.

After all, even rebellion and revolution is packaged and sold.

Would you like to buy these fine leather jackets with Che guevara's face on the back?

[Malcolm the Bear]

After all, even rebellion and revolution is packaged and sold.

Would you like to buy these fine leather jackets with Che guevara's face on the back?

No thanks--I'm just looking for the latest Rage Against The Machine CD and a place to get my nipples pierced. Oh, and where's the closest Hot Topic? ;)

[XianJaguar]

There's a time and place for everything though.
You wouldn't attend a black-tie affair in a floral-print 2-piece Bikini, and you aren't going to wear a Dominatrix outfit to a (normal) church service.

Ears and tails in public CAN have a 'time and place', but I wouldn't wear them just 'anywhere' in public to 'express myself' any more than I would wear *just* a bikini just 'anywhere' in public (ie, to the supermarket).

I supose the good thing of living ni a touristic beach is.. we see Women in bikini or even surfing suits (mrr) at cheap restaurants and at the supermarkets, not very usual but let's say 2-3 times per season :P

ID bet the town (surfer town )wich is a north of my town, would see these scenes way more constantly


Just the fact you live near the beach (LUCKY!) makes me jealous!
I'm freezing my rear end off here in this mountain town right now. Brrrrr.....

[darkfoxx]

if i'd have a good looking tail and ears to wear (made my own, but they look CRAP) I would definately wear them to any con or furmeet or whatever as much as I could. Just not at the local supermarket if I'm not part of a larger group. Not cause I feel ashamed doing so alone, but hey tidiots who think it's a good reason to beat you up, always come in paris or more. So personal safety, more then self conciousness. (sp?)

But if I'm at a furmeet, and I am wearing ears and tails and such, other furs who are nervous standing next to me because of it, kinda seems a little hilarious to say the least. You are at a furmeet/con, the local people there KNOW you're 'one of them furries', and you choose to be there and be associated with 'them furries'. So getting all nervous about that... LOL

It's your good right to of course, as well as it's everyone's right to point and laugh. They should, we are a ridiculous bunh of idiots. But it's my right to find anyone who cares too much about what others think a little silly.

If you don't want to be associated with furries, don't call yourself a furry, don't hang out with furries, stay the hell away from cons and just look at furry porn on your own computer in the safety and privacy from your own home. just don't go running around telling the rest of us what to do and not do because "You're making the rest of us look bad!"

The damage has been done already. Give it a rest.

[coffeewolf]

I have actually had random fits and worn a tail in public.

But I normally won't because well I'm a evil looking person naturally.

but when there are public furmeets then i will wear on for the hell of it. And cons are perfect to wear your stuff at.

But seriously......if it's something people shouldn't wear it's girls who are chubby as hell wearing goddamn pants that show the crack of their ass and flip flops in winter!!! That and guys who sag in their pants. If you want to wear your pants big and have them sag have the decency to wear a fucking belt.


I wear sandals all the time. Don't judge me.

[Hanazawa]

DO NOT JUDGE THE HYPNOTOAD

What gets me is the girls who wear short shorts/flipflops/tanktops in winter... and complain about how cold it is. Put on some freaking pants, and then maybe, maybe you can complain about how cold it is. But really, southern Arizona = not cold.

[kitetsu]

If i was going to wear a convention-supplied fursuit in public, i will sue the con staff for giving me a horribly disproportionate suit and not giving me any rights to customize out of my own pocket. Full stop.

[The Ancient Mariner]

DO NOT JUDGE THE HYPNOTOAD

What gets me is the girls who wear short shorts/flipflops/tanktops in winter... and complain about how cold it is. Put on some freaking pants, and then maybe, maybe you can complain about how cold it is. But really, southern Arizona = not cold.


Especially when they wear the short shorts/skirts with those gigantic hairy "Ugg" snow boots. That's kind of a clothing contradiction right there, isn't it?

[Malcolm the Bear]

DO NOT JUDGE THE HYPNOTOAD

What gets me is the girls who wear short shorts/flipflops/tanktops in winter... and complain about how cold it is. Put on some freaking pants, and then maybe, maybe you can complain about how cold it is. But really, southern Arizona = not cold.


Meh...I heard that a lot of girls do that just as part of conditioning for their men, to make them give up their coat for their lady. Good thing I'm a queer guy and don't date uber-flamers.

But yeah, I've also seen plenty of people here in southeast Texas who wear sandals pretty much year-round. "Winter" in southeast Texas is a very vague and subtle season at best. The way I see it, we only have two seasons here: Summer (a.k.a. Hotter Than Freaking Hades), which lasts for about 8 months, and Not Summer (a.k.a. Slightly Cooler Than Summer) which lasts for about 4 months. Since I grew up a bit further north (in Tulsa), I still think it's funny when my friends who lived down here all their lives get "too cold" when it's only in the 50s (F) outside.

[Arshes Nei]

Bellyshirt sweaters, make no sense to me. They...just seem like a giant contradiction.

Hipsters are not "public domain" not everyone is fit to wear them ;)

[Malcolm the Bear]

Bellyshirt sweaters, make no sense to me. They...just seem like a giant contradiction.

Hipsters are not "public domain" not everyone is fit to wear them ;)


That's sort of like Jeff Foxxworthy's rule that if you're overweight or obese yourself, you should not be allowed to wear a shirt that says "No Fat Chicks."

[emptyF]

here's the thing: my wife, who adimently claims to not be furry in any way, has a cat ears head band that she wears sometimes. nobody thinks anything of it unles yr just trying to get noticed. furry things like ears and tails and to some degree, fursuits, are becoming more and more common. last night at the mall i was hugged by some raver kid in a winnie the pooh suit. that was weird. . .

[cesarin]

There's a time and place for everything though.
You wouldn't attend a black-tie affair in a floral-print 2-piece Bikini, and you aren't going to wear a Dominatrix outfit to a (normal) church service.

Ears and tails in public CAN have a 'time and place', but I wouldn't wear them just 'anywhere' in public to 'express myself' any more than I would wear *just* a bikini just 'anywhere' in public (ie, to the supermarket).

I supose the good thing of living ni a touristic beach is.. we see Women in bikini or even surfing suits (mrr) at cheap restaurants and at the supermarkets, not very usual but let's say 2-3 times per season :P

ID bet the town (surfer town )wich is a north of my town, would see these scenes way more constantly


Just the fact you live near the beach (LUCKY!) makes me jealous!
I'm freezing my rear end off here in this mountain town right now. Brrrrr.....



that should look great on a pic :P
xian with frozenbutt ( huge ice cube )

[Arshes Nei]

That's sort of like Jeff Foxxworthy's rule that if you're overweight or obese yourself, you should not be allowed to wear a shirt that says "No Fat Chicks."


Hell, I'm fat and I know my limits. There was this one female who was still less weight than me but wearing a very tight belly shirt with horizontal stripes but she was still rather fat. All I could think was... why would you wear a shirt that makes you look like you ate the Hamburglar?

[Luna Nuri]

I have actually had random fits and worn a tail in public.

But I normally won't because well I'm a evil looking person naturally.

but when there are public furmeets then i will wear on for the hell of it. And cons are perfect to wear your stuff at.

But seriously......if it's something people shouldn't wear it's girls who are chubby as hell wearing goddamn pants that show the crack of their ass and flip flops in winter!!! That and guys who sag in their pants. If you want to wear your pants big and have them sag have the decency to wear a fucking belt.


I wear sandals all the time. Don't judge me.


I live in Colorado o_O flip flops in the winter time here is not smart. Anywhere else ok maybe but not here. You NEVER know when the good old mother nature is going to bring your nice sunny day to a full blow blizzard in a matter of hours o_o

[Luna Nuri]

Time for my lat enight tangent:

Clothes are made to fit you not made to make it look like your ass is screaming in your pants.

There is such a thing called fashion coordination (though in my case i have the best luck by doing it blind in the morning. yay for ALL BLACK CLOTHES)

My fellow furs I have done such random things it's funny. I went to go meet a fur that worked at walmart and pounced him in the parkinglot wearing only a tail. I have gone to the grocery store wearing a tail. I have driven with my paws on (people call them my cookie monster paws) and once during a fur meet I took a fursuiters head and put it on and ran around doing a little dance.

Sometimes shocking the hell out of people is nice but then again showing up at a mall in a group of 50 with 3 people wearing tails and one dressed as Link gets a little weird. Hiding in bathrooms is fun o_O

[Bokracroc]

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1791/iconlolqd0.gif Sounds like you had fun.

[Sylvine]

I've seen people wearing NARUTO COSPLAY around my campus... just, no. No. No No No.

There is a difference between being unique and looking like an idiot. If you want to look like an idiot, fine, but don't be surprised when someone calls you what you are.


Well, when you wear a tail and ears in public, you can be seen as anything from quirky to pervy to funny to sexy. But when you wear anime cosplay in public, you can't be seen as anything but a dork. I'm sorry, but there it is. Feel free to debate me.


Allright, I will.

Tell me, folks. Just where is wearing a tail / ears / tail AND ears / or even a complete fursuit better than, say, wearing a long, red coat, a broad-rimed Hat, a frilly shirt and red-glass-sunglasses? Because, yanno, BOTH is quite extraordinary - and BOTH will be considerd totally fucked up by most people.

I think it's very sad - and quite infuriating, if You think about it - that members of a subculture experiencing the effects of bias and bigotry on a rather large scale actually don't seem to be able to bring up some tolerance for members of other subcultures. So, furries are okay and cool and all, but otaku are not? Isn't that like saying lesbians are all fine, but no gays, please? Or maybe christians are all fine, but those buddhists are a bunch of idiots? COME ON.

If You expect tolerance, practice it Yourselves.

END OF ANTI-RANT-RANT. Hope some people actually read it and think about it.

~Sylv

[Arshes Nei]

But pecking orders make subgroups, fandoms feel better about their own ridiculousness ;)

[Gar-Yulong]

Tell me, folks. Just where is wearing a tail / ears / tail AND ears / or even a complete fursuit better than, say, wearing a long, red coat, a broad-rimed Hat, a frilly shirt and red-glass-sunglasses? Because, yanno, BOTH is quite extraordinary - and BOTH will be considerd totally fucked up by most people.

I think it's very sad - and quite infuriating, if You think about it - that members of a subculture experiencing the effects of bias and bigotry on a rather large scale actually don't seem to be able to bring up some tolerance for members of other subcultures. So, furries are okay and cool and all, but otaku are not? Isn't that like saying lesbians are all fine, but no gays, please? Or maybe christians are all fine, but those buddhists are a bunch of idiots? COME ON.

If You expect tolerance, practice it Yourselves.

END OF ANTI-RANT-RANT. Hope some people actually read it and think about it.

~Sylv


QUOTED FOR GREAT FUCKING TRUTH

[Hanazawa]

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END OF ANTI-RANT-RANT. Hope some people actually read it and think about it.

~Sylv


I guess I left it out of there, I think furry outfits AND anime cosplay in places like a university campus outside of some kind of special event is stupid. I'm a furry, an anime fan, and vaguely a member of the SCA; all three of these groups have a costuming aspect, and all three of them would do best to limit when they do their costuming. For example, my campus SCA group is organizing a Pirates cosplay thing for tonight because they're playing PotC at the campus theater. I think that is an appropriate event for dressing up.

I tolerate lifestyles and alternative hobbies, but not stupidity. kthx.

[Sylvine]

Actually, I think I'm in total agreement with you there, Mariner. Some people can pull off a random cat-ear-day for cuteness, but anime is just... no.


Sorry, but that just didn't sound like tolerance...

No offence meant (no, seriously), but - You left it out. Fine, can happen. No wonder people may reply accordingly. Thanks for clarifying the matter. [/no irony included. I mean it.]

As a matter of fact, I'm not a big friend of advertising Your hobbies to each and every person, anytime, anywhere, either ( If You'e interested, refer to my post in "Ashamed to be furry?"-thread ) - but what I noticed lately is that people - not just around here, and not just furries - tend to look down on others in total, gleeful hypocrism. Like stated - on one side: "I'm furry, proud of what I am, stand up to it, got a problem with that?", on the other: "Man, those anime freaks and cosplayers ( or insert random other group here ), they're weird and rude and totally messed up and got a hang to pedophilia, anyways." (Exaggeration is a valid method of delivering a point, by the way).
Some people turn it into a joke. Like, everyone does it, it's just making fun and picking on each other, no hard feelings, eh? I really don't think that's funny. I think it's sad - and that's the nicest way to express that. Forgivable if it only happens once so often, errare humanum est and all, but - it's not an exception, it's common practice.

~Sylv

[Kuriin]

Eh, it's honestly embarrassing. What can ya do?

[Hanazawa]

Actually, I think I'm in total agreement with you there, Mariner. Some people can pull off a random cat-ear-day for cuteness, but anime is just... no.


Sorry, but that just didn't sound like tolerance...

No offence meant (no, seriously), but - You left it out. Fine, can happen. No wonder people may reply accordingly. Thanks for clarifying the matter. [/no irony included. I mean it.]


That statement is congruent with my clarifying one - there is a time and a place for everything. There may be a random day where wearing cat ears might be acceptable, but the likelihood of an anime costume being acceptable in the same situation is very, very slim. Furthermore, wearing cat ears is not exclusive to the furry fandom (literally anyone can just feel like wearing 5-dollar cat ears for a day), but people wearing anime costumes in public are quite blatantly sticking out as outsiders. The same would be true of someone wearing a full fursuit, though they may have an easier time explaining their way out of it ("I'm a mascot" or somesimilar). The other point I made is that if you want to stick out, fine, but don't be surprised if someone calls you out on it. I'd say the same of a homosexual who wears bright rainbow "I AM GAY" shirts all the time. I don't care if you're homosexual, and even though it sucks that some people will discriminate against you because of it, you shouldn't be surprised when it happens because YOU are the one choosing to advertise that fact.

[InvaderPichu]

I see nothing wrong with wearing something that expresses your love for a particular anime. (I have several t-shirts with anime stuff on them) But going outside ALL THE TIME dressed as your favorite character is retarded. This same thing goes for furries.

And of course, time and place for everything.

[Hanazawa]

Well, yeah. Wearing your Sailor Moon t-shirt is different from dressing as Sailor Moon.

[Sylvine]

Well, yeah. Wearing your Sailor Moon t-shirt is different from dressing as Sailor Moon.


I guess we can all agree on that, actually. ^__^

~Sylv

[blackdragoon]

Hell, I've worn my Fursuit to the grocery store. I don't give a $#%@.
Not something I do every day, though.
In fact, look at THIS PICTURE FOR PROOF (http://www.kattywampus.com/random/Morphicon2004_22.jpg)!
And if I'm just wearing ears and tail, I usually get positive comments.


dude i have that exact same shirt your wearing over your fursuit on my floor. *don't ask why it's there* also your fursuit kicks ass man.

also i think it don't really matter. as one who purposely grew out his hair on top and in the back so that i look like a wolfman, i think it's perfectly fine to express yourself. except you shira. your tail just don't look right on yah. no offense dude but it made you look geekier than yah already did that day buddy. if you are gonna wear it make sure you wear something that matches it....and that goes for all of you as well.

[FenixFox]

O'Hare's Flying Tiger (http://www.aetv.com/airline/airline_episode_guide.jsp?episode=120702) Anyone else see this episode?

**throws 2 cents into the jar**

The only point I'll make is regarding masks or heads. A lot of the time those are banned from public buildings (or restricted, at least), is for security reasons. You can imagine furries wearing their headpieces casually, then a robber dons a 'yote mask and holds up a convenience store. It's because of morons like that out there that face coverings are limited.

As for fashion/style wise? I'd say as long as you aren't exposing yourself to children, wear whatever you'd like. Expect some derrogatory comments and looks, though.

[Alchera]

Kay.**Ranting time.

You know.

I know several furries.

But I've only heard this from like.. 2 or 3 of them.

"Don't wear tails or ears in public."

Personally, here's my response to that.

Saying that makes you look like an insecure nitwit and makes you look like someone who has to cover up their own insecurities by telling someone else not to do something else they fear doing themselves.**If you have a problem with it, personally, I don't think anyone cares.**In simularity, it's the same thing as telling someone not to wear a certain article of clothing or not to do a certain thing, because it makes a certain appearance or makes you look different.

Different = Good.
Uniqueness = Good.

It's expressing who you are and what you care about.**It has nothing to do with anything, and if anyone thinks anything weird of it, it shouldn't matter anyway.**It should never matter what anyone thinks, just it should matter what you think and believe.

On another note, wearing tails and ears isn't childish beyond any means.**It's just another symbol of expression, just as many other things are in this world.

If you wish to say differently to me, then go right ahead, opinions should be allowed and freely expressed.**Go fot it!**Hee hee.***wags her tail*

</mymajorpetpeeveatm>

"If I am not to be who I truly am, than who am I to be?" - My quote =P


I believe it is more than just being insecure, but rather being cautious. When there are haters, those of whom don't want to be hassled by the abusers will hide. Seeing the FC itself has been constantly persecuted it is understood why they would say such things. Someone told me a few months ago that Dennys, in some parts of the nation, will not serve one if they find out that person is a furry, based on their personal experience. Further, some mascotting schools will expel a person if they find he or she is furry. Let's not forget the people who also degrade, slander, harass, and threaten people of whom are furry. I don't believe it is them backing away from a threat, but rather avoiding the confrontation all together.**Quite a few people I know do not let others on they are furry because of the persecution. Things like CSI, MTV, Vanity Fair, and numerous other publications which are made and run by degenerates of our society made them afraid, and further afterwards even they themselves were persecuted.

I myself have been laughed at for my preference of older style clothing. I've had things thrown at me, and I've even had someone, probably a religious fanatic, point at me and yell "Black witch!" (Usually its my common and casual attire which I've not posted up on my FA yet. Pictures of other clothing I wear, however, are up.) Do I care what they think? No, and far as I'm concerned those who point and laugh at those of whom do what they like, or dress how they prefer can go to hell and never return.

Of course, their words may not be the result of persecution, but it sure sounds like it me. They may have had a minor incident and that was enough to shake them up so much as to tell you not to do it in public. As Xian and everyone else here said, there is a time and place for everything.

[shy]

I don't know how I feel about this. I have worn tails in public but I also "looked the part". I dress alternatively and so it wasn't an aspect of me that stood out. However, when a person who dresses "normally" then dons ears/tail it does stand out sometimes a bit much. But outside of convention-space this always occurred in a public place such as "the mall meet" or "the movies". I don't see a problem with that. Unless you're a rabbit. Ears off plz.

What I do not tolerate is things like when I am in a more upscale resturaunt or bar. Such as: A group and I went to Ruth Chris' this past AC. We were a small party of close friends so it wasn't an issue but amongst ourselves none of us would wear that sort of thing inside... It's not fair to the other patrons who are just trying to enjoy a nice dinner and not be distracted by someone's social LOOK-AT-ME gear. Of course, we promptly ran drunk through the fountains once we exited the establishment but that's 100% their fault for putting them there.

[Arshes Nei]

Someone told me a few months ago that Dennys, in some parts of the nation, will not serve one if they find out that person is a furry, based on their personal experience. Further, some mascotting schools will expel a person if they find he or she is furry.


1. Denny's has been known not to serve a lot of people, get in the discrimination line. Not like one knows one is 'furry' versus Black or other ethnicity or age Denny's has been known to discriminate for

2. What school is this? "Mascotting school" is this in competition with "Clown College"?

[nrr]

Denny's has been known not to serve a lot of people, get in the discrimination line. Not like one knows one is 'furry' versus Black or other ethnicity or age Denny's has been known to discriminate for

It's fucking Denny's!

Why you would willingly want to eat there is beyond me since even stepping foot inside one gives me some really nauseous feelings. Go to a trucker's diner, and you're bound to get some better food than what they serve at Denny's. Not necessarily food that's better for you, but it'll be better food nonetheless.

That, and you won't get all of the discrimination bullshit that you tend to get at Denny's anyhow.

In closing, Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's Denny's. QE-fuckin'-D.

[Alchera]

Someone told me a few months ago that Dennys, in some parts of the nation, will not serve one if they find out that person is a furry, based on their personal experience. Further, some mascotting schools will expel a person if they find he or she is furry.


1. Denny's has been known not to serve a lot of people, get in the discrimination line. Not like one knows one is 'furry' versus Black or other ethnicity or age Denny's has been known to discriminate for

2. What school is this? "Mascotting school" is this in competition with "Clown College"?


I've never liked Denny's to begin with. Everytime I think about it, I think of nasty, sour gritz.

The second one--I'm not sure which school it is. I've heard several schools that teach people how to Mascot for huge football games and other such things have done this before.

[Ruiner]

Nothing like my local 24/7 diner, the Regent.

Reeks of cigarettes, and crap, but great food, and if you make nice with the staff... Excellent service.

[drewdle]

I went to a furmeet at a mall in Pennsylvania where the gayest guy you could EVER imagine was earing lil' cheetah ears on top of his shaved head, and he stood out like a sore thumb. Everybody said, "Hey! Let's go out to dinner!" and I was completely embarassed to be seen standing next to him.

I don't hate furry or anything, nor do I give a shit how people look... but certain things are just entirely situational. Honestly, it's a consideration to the other people around you that should be matter most. If you wanna wear ears or tails in public and your friends don't mind, hey, why not, right? But if people are uncomfortable being around it, there should be a courtesy to keep that weirdness tucked away for consideration purposes.

See, for me, this is the exact opposite. I'm in a line of work where people could give a shit about considering my feelings or opinions, as I rarely get a chance to share them, and when I do, I'd better not insult the customers. So in other words, I consider other people all day long, and I get nothing back from doing so, on an interactivity level.

I think people need to get a lot less hung up on this. If you go to a furry meet, you're going to find that some people are going to take it to different levels than you do, either higher (like the guy with the ears) or lower (like the guy with the ears was thinking about the rest of you). If you're afraid someone might see you out with someone who's wearing a pair of cheetah ears, you have security issues.

I'm not saying you should wear ears too. However, I am saying that it shouldn't matter to you if the guy wears ears or not, and likewise, it shouldn't be up to him to care for your delicate sensibilities.

[brownsquirrel]

You have to be very cautious of where you go if you want a tail on. If I walked into a gym with my pink underwear showing, than that is instant "That guy's ghey." judgement.

[AlexInsane]

Well done, my good necrofag.

Reported.

[Arshes Nei]

DIE!