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ArrowTibbs
02-12-2006, 10:51 PM
I just thought this would be appropriate for discussion...I am against PETA, just to say right up front. The idea of animal rights is appealing, but the organization just loses all my respect in how they go about it. They've done some good things, but they have also gone against their own ethical code. Why do they accept animals for adoption if they can't take care of them?! I never liked PETA much based on the experiences of friends of mine who owned show dogs; reportedly PETA was putting antifreeze in the dog dishes because that was somehow better for the dogs (my friends, btw, love their dogs).

Written for my Environmental Politics class.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, was founded in the year1980 (PETA). PETA is a nonprofit organization operating internationally (PETA). Their goal is to educate policy makers that, ?animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, or use for entertainment,? which they find unethical (PETA). The group as a whole has mixed reviews, and although the website for the organization puts their actions in a positive light, there are cases in which their members have taken extreme actions which are detrimental to their overall credibility. Some see PETA as being a group of fanatics as a result of some of these extreme actions. To heighten their publicity, they not only will incorporate celebrities? commentary but operate several websites and have many publications(PETA). These include Grrr!, a children?s newsletter, and publications related to their activities such as a handbook on how to be an active animal rights advocate and how to become a vegetarian (PETA). To earn revenue to fund these publications, they have online stores from which members and those wishing to support PETA can purchase said literature, t-shirts, CDs, DVDs, apply for credit cards and purchase checks with their designs, and buy animal toys (PETA). They are also partnered with several shops which agree to donate a percentage of these product purchases? original cost to the organization (PETA). The publications are not always simply handbooks on how to get involved in community, but are more commonly occurring as propaganda aimed towards children. One such piece of propaganda was entitled Your Daddy Kills Animals! (PETA Tells Kids to Run from Daddy).

PETA?s strategies and tactics include many methods. One of the most well known methods is protesting; during these members will often dress up in animal costumes and encourage boycotting a certain company for its practices (PETA). These protestors are also often paid, say multiple sources. They also appeal to legislation, film animal cruelty in action by entering the business in question, and have celebrities speak for them (PETA). The targets of their protests include have included several circuses, basketball tournaments which use leather basketballs, restaurant chains such as Burger King, scientific facilities, fur farms, agricultural practices, animal pounds, fashion industries which use leather and fur, and car crash testing with live animals along with a host of others (PETA). Their usual method to affect policy is to have paid protestors pressure big business into accepting their point of view. However, there are cases of their involvement having influenced environmental policy, such as their 1981 investigation of a laboratory which led to the first ever conviction and suspension of federal research funds on the basis of animal cruelty (PETA). The next year, the group filed a lawsuit to become the guardians of animals involved in experiments (PETA). PETA also achieved the ?first ever permanent ban on shooting cats and dogs in wound labs? as a result of their investigation of a Department of Defense wound lab, which was subsequently shut down (PETA).

In overall evaluation, however, PETA is a hypocritical group in the most extreme way possible. While they promote the ethical treatment of animals, they also kill animals. This is supported by the court case in July of 2005 concerning two members of PETA who dumped the bodies of thirty-one dogs and cats into trash cans after being given the animals by veterinarian clinics and animal shelters in efforts to have them adopted (Barr). The case is covered in further detail at another source which states they were indicted by a Grand Jury of fifty counts of animal cruelty (PETA Kills Animals). Three of these are cases of seizure of property under false pretenses, meaning the animals were taken from the shelters and veterinarian clinics under the impression they would be adopted out (PETA Kills Animals). Witnesses from an animal hospital said that the PETA employees had seized animals found in the trash bins earlier that very same day (PETA Kills Animals). This is not the first instance of PETA going against its own policies; from 1999 to 2004 they killed more than 11, 488 dogs, cats, and other animals which were brought to their facilities (Badame). Their cofounder, Alex Pacheco, reportedly said that they do not have the revenue to fund the adoption of animals; however, they gather $25 million a year and had donated funds to the local shelters they denounced as inadequate for the animals (Badame). The current report on their financial status estimates this as being higher, at $29,309,246 with their total operating expenses estimated at $25,461,648 (PETA). Some of this has gone into their campaigns, including a campaign which ?equated people who eat chicken with Nazis? (PETA Kills Animals). Their current President and fellow cofounder reportedly killed many animals (Badame). In Badame?s article this is clearly represented:

Better results could not be expected from an organization whose co-founder and current President Ingrid Newkirk has been killing rescued animals for three decades. In 2003 The New Yorker profiled Newkirk, and included how she became involved in animal rights after a shelter euthanized the stray kittens she had brought there. She started working at an animal shelter in the 1970s, where, she explained, ?I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals.) I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day.?

In short, PETA?s so called ethics are questionable at best. Their organization stands in the way of true environmentally concerned groups and smears the name of the environmental activist, causing the general public to immediately label such people as so-called crazies. The organization holds just as many extremists as any other, as is illustrated by Bruce Friedrich, the PETA vegetarian head, who ?told an animal rights convention in 2001 that ?blowing stuff up and smashing windows? is ?a great way to bring about animal liberation?? (PETA Kills Animals). Their tactics, though often less than savory, are lesser in severity than those of the ?FBI-certified domestic eco-terrorist? organization ELF, known for bombings and other such activities, an organization which PETA is documented as having donated funds to (PETA Kills Animals). Though they are not considered eco-terrorists, the fact they consider themselves just as legitimate as the Sierra Club brings only discredit to those organizations and stands in the way of real progress publicly and governmentally.








Works Cited
Badame, Elizabeth. PETA?s Fraudulent ?Ethical Treatment.? September 14, 2005. The
Cornell Review. February 9, 2006 <http://www.cornellreview.org/viewart.cgi?num=517>.

Barr, Bob. Behind PETA?s Lettuce Curtain. July 23, 2005. Washington Times. February
10, 2006 <http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20050722-085338-5284r.htm>.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA): The Animal Rights Organization.
November 16, 2005. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. February 9, 2006 <http://www.peta.org>.

PETA Kills Animals. February 9, 2006. <www.petakillsanimals.com>.

PETA Tells Kids to Run from Daddy. November 25, 2005. Fox News.
<http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,176739,00.html> February 9, 2006.

Mitch_DLG
02-13-2006, 01:19 AM
The episode of Penn and Teller's show "Bullshit" (That's actually the name) did an brilliant expose on PETA that I believe should be seen by anyone even considering helping that organization.

Personally, I beleive in a different PETA.
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

ArrowTibbs
02-13-2006, 11:01 AM
I have to say I agree. They actually hand out stuff like that "Your Daddy Kills Animals!" comic book to kids at age seven and try to visit schools. They use scare tactics to try and make kids stop eating meat, which is bad for the kids because they need protein.

I'm just kind of disgusted with the organization, originally I thought there were some redeeming qualities with them considering Jane Goodall had at one point endorsed them in some manner, but...ugh.

Let us all eat taty animals together, seeing as not eating the cattle would cause massive damage to the environment, worse than it does already! ^_^

Radric
02-13-2006, 02:58 PM
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals

Punch
Everyone,
They're
Assholes

People
Exterminating
The
Animals

Edit: Forgot to add that I appreciated the article, ArrowTibbs.

ArrowTibbs
02-13-2006, 07:19 PM
Glad it was informative at least :) The organization has mixed results...Good stuff like getting shooting cats and dogs outlawed, but bad like euthanizing the animals given to them for adoption...Guh @_@

Radric
02-13-2006, 07:46 PM
Yeah, talk about a bag of mixed candy there! Sheesh!

Me: Hey, I have a pet whom I can't care for anymore. Can you take him?
PETA: Sure, we here have two options.
Me: What's the first?
PETA: We find a way to provide him with a good home.
Me: Ah, cool. Um, what's the second?
PETA: We grab him by the tail, spin him around until he's too dizzy to think, smack his head against the wall really hard, and kill him.
Me: Gwruh????

(NOT a true story!)

Azure Ocelot
02-14-2006, 01:09 PM
How are animals not for eating? o_O They eat each other, don't they? And we're designed for an omnivorous diet, as a species. Hell, my fursona is a carnivore. Isn't it hypocritical to love cats and dogs but say that eating meat is bad for humans?

Not to mention the kiddie propaganda. That's just wrong. My doctors have repeatedly told me that if I hadn't eaten meat when I was a kid, I'd be even skinnier than I am now and probably anemic, at the very least. Vegetarianism is a fine alternative for many adults, and I have known some very healthy people who've benefited from the lifestyle-- but it's not an option for kids.

I agree that we shouldn't kill animals for sport, abuse them for amusement (or science), wear them, or test non-essential products such as makeup and tobacco (those should really be "at your own risk" items, since no one actually needs them) on animals. We're the only species with the ability to look after the others and be conscious of the impact we have on the environment. It's not a "right" we have, it's a responsibility-- to see that no animal is killed without good reason, and that we weigh their needs fairly with ours before taking an environment-altering action. Of course, we never uphold that responsibility. But we should.

Still, don't leave it in the hands of PETA. Activist anti-cruelty organizations are, by and large, more nutso than the NRA. They're as dangerous to the animals as they are to the opposition. Look at some of the crap Greenpeace has done in the name of "protecting" the animals.

ArrowTibbs
02-14-2006, 05:08 PM
Exactly! While I'm not against vegetarianism, their website had a lot of stuff saying kids who are overweight have meat in their diets, but they leave out the fact that those same kids most likely had unlimited access to sweets and other things.

They also had some BS saying meat was linked to cancer or some such thing, which is hard to disprove because most people eat, guess what, meat! It's not good science to have something that must be disproven rather than proven.

Diamond
03-22-2006, 10:53 AM
im not really with PETA , just usaed his posters , but wearing real fur nowadays.... when you're not a tribal is wrong.

Silver R. Wolfe
03-22-2006, 11:57 AM
They also had some BS saying meat was linked to cancer or some such thing, which is hard to disprove because most people eat, guess what, meat! It's not good science to have something that must be disproven rather than proven.

Of course meat causes cancer!! Haven't you learned by now that everything causes cancer nowadays? How miniscule of a difference it makes is the question though.

Xax
03-22-2006, 09:28 PM
Uhh, PETA is full of whack jobs, but yeah eating a lot of red meat will get you the cancer. Meat is really not that healthy for you, esp. in large quantities. Not to meantion, overcooked meat is carcinogenic.

"Last year the Dunn team published a study suggesting the chance of developing the disease was a third higher for people who regularly ate more than two portions per day of cooked red meat compared with those who ate less than one portion per week.

[...]

Work by the Open University team suggests the reason could be the presence of substances called N-nitrosocompounds, which form in the large bowel after eating red meat.

Their work suggests that these compounds combine with DNA, and alter it so that it is more likely to undergo harmful changes or mutations that increase the likelihood of cancer"

Nox Fatalis
04-18-2006, 03:28 PM
I'd say any claims that meat will kill you are invalidated by mankinds some odd 4000 years or more of existence as a primarily Hunter-species.

If red meat was so lethal as a stapel food, I think the Cro-Magnon men would have keeled over by then.

As for PETA, I'd personalyl love to tie them all to a stake, slather them in BBQ sauce and then have them mauled by a group of shaved tigers.

Because the Symbolism there is pure win and awesome.

Nox Fatalis
04-18-2006, 03:30 PM
Of course meat causes cancer!! Haven't you learned by now that everything causes cancer nowadays? How miniscule of a difference it makes is the question though.

The average person gets cancer every 8 seconds or so, roughly - then it's flushed from the system by new cells.

Gamma Radiation is a bitch like that, but it's nothing new. :wink:

Dragoneer
04-18-2006, 03:37 PM
I'd say any claims that meat will kill you are invalidated by mankinds some odd 4000 years or more of existence as a primarily Hunter-species.
Not that any of those people from the past 4,000 years (let alone 40,000 to 400,000+ years) who have been eating meat are alive to validate the claims. Heh heh heh.

Nox Fatalis
04-18-2006, 03:40 PM
I'd say any claims that meat will kill you are invalidated by mankinds some odd 4000 years or more of existence as a primarily Hunter-species.
Not that any of those people from the past 4,000 years (let alone 40,000 to 400,000+ years) who have been eating meat are alive to validate the claims. Heh heh heh.

Damn Right.

They ate meat, got laid, and then died trying to take down that mastadon for dinner.

Sounds like So-Cal on weekends. I kid, I kid.

But nonetheless, I doubt having a steak for dinner once or twice a week will kill anyone, I'd be more concerned with all the obease people who eat McDonalds deathburgers for every meal.

Dragoneer
04-18-2006, 03:46 PM
They ate meat, got laid, and then died trying to take down that mastadon for dinner.
Well, we've all got to die sometime. I think some people become so obsessed with eating healthy to get that extra year of life that they stress their bodies out to the point that they themselves wear their bodies down before their prime. People freaking out because a donut has 400 calories per bite.

There's a lady at work who freaks out over food that may have more than 10 carbs in the entire dish, and panics at the thought of it. Yeah, the donut's not good for you, but provided you do all things in moderation... yer ok. Anything in excess cann and will kill you, which is something most people forget.

My philosophy is is: live life to it's fullest and be happy. You never know when a bus will fall from the sky and kill you.

Nox Fatalis
04-18-2006, 03:48 PM
My philosophy is is: live life to it's fullest and be happy. You never know when a bus will fall from the sky and kill you.

Or if Samuel L. Jackson will come out of nowhere and BEAT you to DEATH with A MOTHERFUCKING SNAKE.

ArrowTibbs
04-18-2006, 04:01 PM
Dragoneer, you have my philosophy exactly. :P The people who obsess about dieting are usually the people who seem to get sick fastest. I don't really concern myself except to eat veggies and fruit when I feel like I ought to and to eat a turkey sandwich when it seems right.

Nox Fatalis
04-18-2006, 04:03 PM
Dragoneer, you have my philosophy exactly. :P The people who obsess about dieting are usually the people who seem to get sick fastest. I don't really concern myself except to eat veggies and fruit when I feel like I ought to and to eat a turkey sandwich when it seems right.

I just have to remember to eat less people each week.

Idiots are high in carbs, I'd much rather have a Snickers.

Dragoneer
04-18-2006, 04:53 PM
Dragoneer, you have my philosophy exactly. :P The people who obsess about dieting are usually the people who seem to get sick fastest. I don't really concern myself except to eat veggies and fruit when I feel like I ought to and to eat a turkey sandwich when it seems right.
I tend to rotate. I'm on a diet, trying to lose weight... but I'd rather lose it healthier. Mix up veggies, meats and fruits. None of this "no sugar, EVER!" shit.

But I also walk three to five miles a day. More than most people do. The trick is not what you eat, but how much exercise you do, which is what most people (veggieheads included) tend to forget. Balance yer diet, balance your exercise, and your butt gets balanced in the end.

InvaderPichu
04-18-2006, 07:16 PM
I get annoyed when people assume I'm with or support PETA because I'm for animal rights. In fact, I want PETA to stfu, like, now. >:B

Oh, and:

http://bizarro.com/vegan/vegan_carnivores.htm

While it's not an actual article, it's interesting.