Fur Affinity/Furocity Joining Forces

[Williamca]

Signal boost. I think this might be a good thing to add to the original post.

There has been one in the original post for some time now.

[FennyK]

We we have not discussed this policy at this time. Currently, art is still art, but RL discussion of bestiality is still banned.

So you've been in discussion about this for a YEAR and this didn't come up?

So long as this is just a staffing merger, fine, I don't think most people will care. So long as you don't start fucking with the rules, I'm all for this. Some actual clarification would be really helpful, though, instead of vague replies.

[Draken_The_Dragon]

Hmm...I don't know what Furocity is but...it seems there's quite the upset among users here. Sure you guys had to take to make sure it was ready to happen...but didn't either sides ever ask the USERS, that make up the site, if they wanted this or not? (Obviously not). You think you're creating the "largest, most in-depth online Furry community on the internet", but in all reality, you can't really do that. The community IS the furry community. You're making a HUGE site for furries, yes, but again it comes back to if the COMMUNITY wants that. You cannot physically or theorically enlarge the community because, again, the community refers to its entity as, both as a size and a communitication way, which you, the site admins and mods, did not. This is not a end-user move that's made with said end-user support.

I've looked at the site a bit and for my own opinion, I honestly, aside from the dark look, do not like it. So again, this so called "end-user" support is not being taken account of by means of asking the community itself if it wants this. There's a REASON why some furries like this- they don't like the other site. That's why they're where they are. As much as the site is run like one, its not a complete dic(k)tatorship. The users make the sites and support it. Give us our right to choose.

[Sekhmet_Pyralis]

Both sites are going to stay open and separate. We won't be merging accounts.

EDIT: nevermind! Just saw the updated original post.
Neer, if you could add that in the original message, perhaps this would avoid confusion/reduce the amount of questions?

[Ta5tele55]

Does furocity have a mascot that Fender and Rednef can hug?

[Eske]

I've looked at the site a bit and for my own opinion, I honestly, aside from the dark look, do not like it. So again, this so called "end-user" support is not being taken account of by means of asking the community itself if it wants this. There's a REASON why some furries like this- they don't like the other site. That's why they're where they are. As much as the site is run like one, its not a complete dic(k)tatorship. The users make the sites and support it. Give us our right to choose.

Calm down and read the OP again. The sites are remaining independent.

Also, why are you quoting yourself?

Neer, if you could add that in the original message, perhaps this would avoid confusion/reduce the amount of questions?

It is in the original message.

[Syrae-Universe]

I'm not entirely a fan of Furocity, but many commissioners I've met (including Sable), has one. With this merge, it can be proven useful. Though, I hope I have an option to use only the Furaffinity part of the merging and not forced to use both.

Anyways, this is a good thing. I hope the merge is productive and useful for many people. C:

And yes, there will be a shitton of negative people and those who don't want it. Not everyone likes CHANGE.

[Shikaro]

Both sites will remain indepdent. Staffers will share resources, but as long as your account is in good standing on FA... I see no reason for that to change.

this pretty much solves the username question.

[Williamca]

Neer, if you could add that in the original message, perhaps this would avoid confusion/reduce the amount of questions?

It has been there for some time now. You just didn't read the bottom of it.

[Syntex]

I've looked at the site a bit and for my own opinion, I honestly, aside from the dark look, do not like it. So again, this so called "end-user" support is not being taken account of by means of asking the community itself if it wants this. There's a REASON why some furries like this- they don't like the other site. That's why they're where they are. As much as the site is run like one, its not a complete dic(k)tatorship. The users make the sites and support it. Give us our right to choose.

Thank you for that.

[DJ-Moogle]

Will there be thousands upon thousands of new artwork/traffic because of this?

[dopy]

The people's voice largely doesn't know about the workings of the site, and their opinions don't really mean squat.

They could easily vote down something which would help the site because of stupid reason like "I don't want FA to change".

If you're point is that this move was risky because a lot of people could have been upset by this and left FA, you're wrong. FA has a largely ingrained community which isn't going anywhere for a while.

The people's voice sure does matter, sure it's Dragoneer's site but without his users he's nothing, everyone should be allowed to voice his opinion, certainly about something as big as this. People thought the two sites would become one, wich would be stupid since furocity is largely dead and horribly structured, ALOT of people would leave if this happened, contrary to what you think, the two sites becoming one would be a very, very bad move for furaffinity's sake.

[Vizza]

Think of all the business budding artists would get. If I was good enough to open commissions, I'd be thrilled at the thought that theres gonna be a ton more people that might be interested in hiring me for work.

[Taasla]

Give us our right to choose.

This isn't a democracy. Last I checked FA is a privately owned site...

[Sekhmet_Pyralis]

It has been there for some time now. You just didn't read the bottom of it.

I just saw. Thanks.

[Cyril]

For what seems to be happening, "merger" is a bit misleading of a term to use, I'd think.
That said, I honestly have no clue what to expect, though from what's been said it just seems like the site will be running better in the near future, which is not a problem in the slightest.

[Shikaro]

Will there be thousands upon thousands of new artwork/traffic because of this?

not actually! if you read the posts above these current ones, both sites will remain independent meaning the artwork posted in furocity may not be posted on FA.. this totally depends on the users if they want to post it in both sites or not.

[dopy]

Will there be thousands upon thousands of new artwork/traffic because of this?

No, furocity is lifeless compared to FA's traffic, and new artwork? all the artwork that gets posted there is reposts of stuff that's already on FA.

[Williamca]

You state the sites will be independant yet you also state that rules may change/are unknown at the moment. Why would sharing staffers have to affect either sides rules? This sounds like a temporary thing to help both sides then go back to normal for both, but hey what do I know.

[reian]

But a database could be considered a resource. Thus the confusion and lack of clarity on the subject. When you sat Site Merger it automatically describes includes the things that are used to create a site.

This is not a website merge, it is merely a staff merge...Like one company owning two different sites/sections of the same thing, from what I can understand

[Draken_The_Dragon]

Calm down and read the OP again. The sites are remaining independent.

Also, why are you quoting yourself?

I have, and a merger is still a merger. It will affect something one way or another. I am just expressing my opinion as a user. And to point back to what I said before for reference.

[Draken_The_Dragon]

This isn't a democracy. Last I checked FA is a privately owned site...

Yes, but it's also a user-based supported site. Notice how it needs donations to run? I'm pretty sure Dragoneer wouldn't pay for this thing entirely himself year after year. It's a government. Without the people, it collapses.

[Taasla]

Yes, but it's also a user-based supported site. Notice how it needs donations to run? I'm pretty sure Dragoneer wouldn't pay for this thing entirely himself year after year. It's a government. Without the people, it collapses.

You do realize there were periods where he has paid for it all of his own? I've donated before, but that doesn't make me feel I'm entitled to anything.

Edit: And by this logic, then only donators should have a say. And this donator fully supports the idea.

[Syntex]

This isn't a democracy. Last I checked FA is a privately owned site...

It is indeed, but the site still runs on users, you need to keep the users happy, last I know FA takes an insane amount of money to run on, doubtingly he would ever scrape up that much at the end of the year every year without donations.

Users not happy = leaving = boycotting = donations drop = FA gonna die sooner or later

[Eske]

I have, and a merger is still a merger. It will affect something one way or another. I am just expressing my opinion as a user. And to point back to what I said before for reference.

No company owner is expected to take a poll asking every last one of his employees whether a merger would be a good idea or not -- let alone his customers. You do not get special rights of power and opinion when joining a website. You're free to express yourself however you like, but that doesn't mean anyone has to listen.

Now out of sheer curiosity; I'd like to know why you find Furocity so horrifying? Are there tangible reasons for your dislike, or is it simply another excuse to rage over this whole situation?