Furaffinity/Furocity Joining Forces, Discussion Thread

[Summercat]

Just to clarify so we don't hopefully have a thread that keeps chasing it's tail...

1) We are having a staff merger, not a full site merger. Furocity admins are joining us on FA.
2) We are not merging databases, so there is no need to worry about user account name collisions.
3) Being banned on Furocity will not autoban you on FA, and vice versa.
4) FA has no plans to ban human, human+antho, or anthro+feral artwork or pornography.
5) Adult and Mature artwork involving 'cubs' in underage situations will remain banned from FA.
6) Furocity is a smaller furry art community that has much of the features people have been asking for on FA. ...and we're getting their coder team.

As for AUP changes, the rest of the admin staff have been working on several AUP revisions for quite some time, to allow for clarification of pre-existing rules and to close some wording loopholes, and has nothing to do with Furaffinity and Furocity merging. I hope to see some of these out by the end of next week, but that's Next Week, Valve Time (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law )

[SpazzyHyena]

Just wondering, my friend said our accounts would be deleted because we're under 18. Is that true? We think it's not but we should get proof for her.

[Summercat]

Just wondering, my friend said our accounts would be deleted because we're under 18. Is that true? We think it's not but we should get proof for her.

Um. Er. What?

If we catch someone under 13 making an account, we ban it. If we catch someone under 18 looking at porn, we lock that out.

That's it.

[Verin Asper]

Just to clarify so we don't hopefully have a thread that keeps chasing it's tail...

1) We are having a staff merger, not a full site merger. Furocity admins are joining us on FA.
2) We are not merging databases, so there is no need to worry about user account name collisions.
3) Being banned on Furocity will not autoban you on FA, and vice versa.
4) FA has no plans to ban human, human+antho, or anthro+feral artwork or pornography.
5) Adult and Mature artwork involving 'cubs' in underage situations will remain banned from FA.
6) Furocity is a smaller furry art community that has much of the features people have been asking for on FA. ...and we're getting their coder team.

As for AUP changes, the rest of the admin staff have been working on several AUP revisions for quite some time, to allow for clarification of pre-existing rules and to close some wording loopholes, and has nothing to do with Furaffinity and Furocity merging. I hope to see some of these out by the end of next week, but that's Next Week, Valve Time (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hofstadter%27s_law )

As long as that new SL rule I helped on finally get posted, I can at least point folks to evidence that "Yes your submission is against the FA AUP on Second Life."

[Kesteh]

Just wondering, my friend said our accounts would be deleted because we're under 18. Is that true? We think it's not but we should get proof for her.

Instead of listening to rumors you should probably glance at the site terms.
Accounts are never deleted on FA...
Except Allan's. Technically it's deleted but that's a story in itself.

[CerbrusNL]

As long as that new SL rule I helped on finally get posted, I can at least point folks to evidence that "Yes your submission is against the FA AUP on Second Life."

Technically, those are considered screenshots at the moment.
But a explicit "no SL" shots rule'd be nice.

[Summercat]

As long as that new SL rule I helped on finally get posted, I can at least point folks to evidence that "Yes your submission is against the FA AUP on Second Life."

Technically, those are considered screenshots at the moment.
But a explicit "no SL" shots rule'd be nice.

This, fairly much.

But that's a discussion on the AUP :3

[Devious Bane]

Regarding 6, is this what we were supposed to expect when it was announced that "team" was going to be "hired" to make the new UI?

Regarding 1, is this new team of admins going to understand the very terms they are going to be enforcing before they are given any administrative rights?

Regarding the last block of text, will these merged admins be allowed to discuss on matters such as the AUP despite having little to no experience working with FurAffinity's user-base?

[Summercat]

Regarding 6, is this what we were supposed to expect when it was announced that "team" was going to be "hired" to make the new UI?

Regarding 1, is this new team of admins going to understand the very terms they are going to be enforcing before they are given any administrative rights?

Regarding the last block of text, will these merged admins be allowed to discuss on matters such as the AUP despite having little to no experience working with FurAffinity's user-base?

Regarding your first point, I guess so. I got maybe a day or two extra notice than most users.

Regarding your second, we'll be putting them through the same training that Browder and Cerbrus are going through right now.

As for your last point, while I'd be very surprised if they didn't have an opinion on the AUP, I'd also be a bit surprised that they'd weigh in as an admin until they've been in the role as such for FA for a bit of time.

In short, once they get settled in, they'll be as much an admin as myself, Surgat, or Xaerun.

...although probably more sober than Xaerun.

[Devious Bane]

...although probably more sober than Xaerun.

Aww, where's the fun in that?

[Glaice]

All the new staff from FCTY should be made to read the current/revised TOS/AUP so there is no confusion about it.

[Clayton]

I can't wait to see what kinda new things Furocity will bring to FA. I just hope our current team won't be all "hurrr no help please." like usual.

[Browder]

I can't wait to see what kinda new things Furocity will bring to FA. I just hope our current team won't be all "hurrr no help please." like usual.

Trust me, we won't. There are a lot of TTs.

And here's a question that has nothing to do with the site directly. Are FA sponsored events (such as FA:U) now co-sponsored with Furocity? We still calling it FA:U?

[Verin Asper]

Technically, those are considered screenshots at the moment.
But a explicit "no SL" shots rule'd be nice.

I worked to hard to show that Folks that do MODS have every right to post as long as they follow a guideline like builders do to seperate us from "heres me getting fucked by random fur #183"
but thats fine, a no SL shot would also kill builders as they wont be allowed to show their work either.

[Summercat]

I worked to hard to show that Folks that do MODS have every right to post as long as they follow a guideline like builders do to seperate us from "heres me getting fucked by random fur #183"
but thats fine, a no SL shot would also kill builders as they wont be allowed to show their work either.

If you'll look at the screenshots rule, you'll find that if you are showing off your own content (skins/mods, majority your own work), you'll be fine.

[Verin Asper]

If you'll look at the screenshots rule, you'll find that if you are showing off your own content (skins/mods, majority your own work), you'll be fine.

problem is I worked with Warmock to give the basics on what is needed to done to make it allowed as in the past I have met folks who would use the current rule to claim it was a mod when it wasnt (adding a store bought dick and adding it to a female avatar doesnt make it a modded avatar when all of it is still stock)

[Summercat]

problem is I worked with Warmock to give the basics on what is needed to done to make it allowed as in the past I have met folks who would use the current rule to claim it was a mod when it wasnt (adding a store bought dick and adding it to a female avatar doesnt make it a modded avatar when all of it is still stock)

Kinda sucks when we have to define lines ever and ever further to square loopholes

[Verin Asper]

Kinda sucks when we have to define lines ever and ever further to square loopholes

tis why we added the rule or a bulletin of showing what the avatar looked store bought or at least name off the avatars.
I even had one person doing the "here's me fucking random fur on SL" claiming there were allowed to due to both avatars were modded.

[Devious Bane]

Are FA sponsored events (such as FA:U) now co-sponsored with Furocity? We still calling it FA:U?

Pretty sure FA will be paying the bill on those, so most likely it's still going to be called FA:U until the site burns down.

[Hardcover]

This doesn't mention human/feral stories, which would wipe out a good deal of my TF stories from the site.

[Accountability]

Any progress being made on this? I mean, the staff page hasn't even been updated to remove people that resigned recently. Has anyone even come over from Furocity yet? Or is this going to end up like the countless other announcements from FA that fail to ever happen?

[Devious Bane]

At this point, we're just going to assume that A)They'll take their good ol' time while TTs and other issues with the site pile up before telling us anything or B)Screw up the whole thing like usual then report back to us that "due to something we didn't do" and we'll be right back where we started last month - Where we are right now.

[Summercat]

At this point, we're just going to assume that A)They'll take their good ol' time while TTs and other issues with the site pile up before telling us anything or B)Screw up the whole thing like usual then report back to us that "due to something we didn't do" and we'll be right back where we started last month - Where we are right now.

TT backlog is going down, actually :3

[Grandpriest]

How about we get done what was told would get done a long time ago first, such as the popular "Summer" site update? If the things that are already on the list still can't be completed after prolonged periods of time, why are new things being added?

Technically, those are considered screenshots at the moment.
But a explicit "no SL" shots rule'd be nice.

Why isn't there one? I hardly think they are counted as photography.

[Xenke]

Why isn't there one? I hardly think they are counted as photography.

'They're working on it'