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    So, just wondering, does this staff shake-up mean it'll be awhile before fresh blood is brought into the forum staff? I'm finding it hard to judge, given that a number of people were brought in and let go almost at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    So, just wondering, does this staff shake-up mean it'll be awhile before fresh blood is brought into the forum staff? I'm finding it hard to judge, given that a number of people were brought in and let go almost at the same time.
    We just went through forum promotions, and I've already discussed that there will likely be another round of mod auditions based on need. But if there's a delay it won't be too long. The delay would probably be more impacted by need than new folks on board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arshes Nei View Post
    Fay, for the record I was never listed on the staff page. I asked that I not be listed.
    I humbly submit that this is not an option that a Fur Affinity staff member ought to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timoran View Post
    I humbly submit that this is not an option that a Fur Affinity staff member ought to have.
    I'll play devil's advocate here:
    Arshes' position as staff is more closely related to her work in the forum, as head forum administrator. She's not a "trouble ticket pusher", she's the head honcho over at FAF. I agree that all mainsite staff currently in service should be listed there, and they are. Arshes is in a special position because while a "mainsite admin", she doesn't solve TTs (or has her main focus there, the way mainsite staff do), but rather uses this position to smooth the work between FA and FAF. At least as much as I understand. Please keep in mind, this is not some official explanation, just something I inferred from posts in this very thread and just kinda watching the forums for all this time. If Arshes or anyone else wanna explain it better than I did, well, I may look like a jackass that's completely wrong.

    Also I do agree there is some communication trouble. It took me 2 years as moderator to realize this is a furry forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timoran View Post
    I humbly submit that this is not an option that a Fur Affinity staff member ought to have.
    I believe and humbly so, there are far more pressing matters than worrying about a page that is still manually updated, inconsistent, where (some and not all) former staff members made it meaningless, and still hasn't exactly explained staff roles for a long time. I'd rather that the security issues, bugs, and communication issues be fixed first.

    But I suppose you can not count my opinion and dismiss me as one of those crazy admin/staff/people of authority and you know how they all suck
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    Nah, Arshes is probably one of the few staff members I actually hold more trust (IE the lazy staff thread made by her months ago) than Dragoneer himself. Also, why do we still have dead-weight staff (IE Silverwolfe, tsawolf) loafing around who do little to nothing on the site?

    This is not going as smooth and transparent as I had expected.
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    Welp, now Arshes posted and I look like a jackass. Totally called it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corto View Post
    Welp, now Arshes posted and I look like a jackass. Totally called it.
    pfft. That's nothing new

    But nah it's cool, you're correct that my main work is the forums and in many aspects staff training. A majority of the staff now were grunts on the forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timoran View Post
    I humbly submit that this is not an option that a Fur Affinity staff member ought to have.
    I don't think it's a big deal, there's really no reason to need a list of all the staff anyways. Now that there's "department heads" at the very least all that page needs is them and the owners, since you shouldn't be contacting other members of the staff directly anyways (that's what trouble tickets are for).

    If I was in charge, all but the "specialty" (say, in charge of advertising, people that you need to know who does what) staff would be anonymous. It would hopefully cut down on the amount of people that do the bare minimum to keep their precious '@' since some see it as a status symbol and nothing else. You could tell people, but it wouldn't be broadcast to everyone. Sadly, I think there'd be less people wanting to be on staff then.
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    The TOS/User Help staff should probably be doubled, or even tripled. Honestly, what is the proportion of trouble tickets dealing with technical issues vs. user/submission issues?
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    I agree with woofwoofwoof here since I myself opened a TT a while back (I forget the reason) and there has been no interaction from any administrative party. So yeah, a few more people wouldn't go amiss to divide the deluge of TT requests from users.

    That said, I had noticed that more names had appeared on the forum leaders page.
    Ok fine there have been some additions to the pack of leaders, however a couple of things strike me as odd.

    First, why have a moderators catagory with ONE person in it?
    Secondly, these people that were added to the list (namely some in the super-mod section), how exactly??? I thought there was a moderators audition thread in which we applied for a position and then admins would decide who got in or out.

    Has that forum grown legs and disappeared into the wilderness?

    Finally, just as a question.. Could you define the meaning behind the Senior Member catagory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayhusky View Post
    I agree with woofwoofwoof here since I myself opened a TT a while back (I forget the reason) and there has been no interaction from any administrative party. So yeah, a few more people wouldn't go amiss to divide the deluge of TT requests from users.

    That said, I had noticed that more names had appeared on the forum leaders page.
    Ok fine there have been some additions to the pack of leaders, however a couple of things strike me as odd.

    First, why have a moderators catagory with ONE person in it?
    Secondly, these people that were added to the list (namely some in the super-mod section), how exactly??? I thought there was a moderators audition thread in which we applied for a position and then admins would decide who got in or out.

    Has that forum grown legs and disappeared into the wilderness?

    Finally, just as a question.. Could you define the meaning behind the Senior Member catagory?
    1) TT's have been being answered at a much greater speed than before. I can testify to that. It's quite possible that your TT just got buried under several others.

    2) All the people in the Super-Mod category are either: Mainstie admins, Recently promoted regular mods, or Super-Mods which have been here for a long time. In addition to some repromoted Senior Members.

    3) What are Senior Members? If I recall, they are people who were Mods/Admins, but resigned on good terms. Essentially, by being a Senior Member, they can return at any time to the administration.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jayhusky View Post

    First, why have a moderators catagory with ONE person in it?
    If you look farther down the list Renard is also a Smod. And if you look at the forum homepage, you'll see that there are no more labels under each category as to which mod can do things where. So since there are no more specifics, they're all Smods with power on any board. The exception being if you look at The Writer's Bloc where Renard is a specified Mod, but is pretty much just a Smod with a specific location to work in along with other things. That's what I'm getting, anyways.
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    I love seeing all these new names in blue and stuff with regdates of like, yesterday. Real command and control decisions going on in this place. Such awareness and sure handedness with this changeover. Disaster is inevitable, if not already occurring, and that's just the forums. The mainsite will probably continue to be as awful as ever.
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    You'd be a fool to expect different when it's clear the same mistakes are constantly being repeated.

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    Restructuring the staff members will make no difference when the highest-level decision-makers demonstrate a lack of responsibility, leadership, and skill for community management. Most of the present staff are perfectly capable of running the site if they were properly trained in managing a community and their motivations and incentives were in the right place.

    The changes as presented are like putting a band-aid on your child when your child is on fire.

    Now he is just on fire and a little sticky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcfynx View Post
    Restructuring the staff members will make no difference when the highest-level decision-makers demonstrate a lack of responsibility, leadership, and skill for community management. Most of the present staff are perfectly capable of running the site if they were properly trained in managing a community and their motivations and incentives were in the right place.

    The changes as presented are like putting a band-aid on your child when your child is on fire.

    Now he is just on fire and a little sticky.
    Everything you say now about children that I know you're 30 comes off as at least 50 times more goddamn creepy.
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    Everything you say now about children that I know you're 30 comes off as at least 50 times more goddamn creepy.
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    Wait wait wait, what? Hold the goddamn phone, WHAT?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jayhusky View Post
    I agree with woofwoofwoof here since I myself opened a TT a while back (I forget the reason) and there has been no interaction from any administrative party. So yeah, a few more people wouldn't go amiss to divide the deluge of TT requests from users.

    That said, I had noticed that more names had appeared on the forum leaders page.
    Ok fine there have been some additions to the pack of leaders, however a couple of things strike me as odd.

    First, why have a moderators catagory with ONE person in it?
    Secondly, these people that were added to the list (namely some in the super-mod section), how exactly??? I thought there was a moderators audition thread in which we applied for a position and then admins would decide who got in or out.

    Has that forum grown legs and disappeared into the wilderness?

    Finally, just as a question.. Could you define the meaning behind the Senior Member catagory?
    I see you were already replied to, but I'll say it anyway so there can be no complaints that staff didn't reply:

    There's more people in the Forum Leaders thing because of the site merge (or whatever happened over at FA) because mainsite staff get special status over here at FAF (hence, notice all these "new names" appear in the "FA site admins" section). There's more supermoderators because the last batch of regular moderators (which, yes, were recruited through the auditions) got promoted.

    Senior Members are that, former staff that either quit for whatever reasons or otherwise abandoned the team in good terms. Basically means they are being thanked for their services with a funky brown nickname and the ability to return to their former status once they ask the admins to be reinstated, bypassing the whole recruitment phase (something I've done like 3 times).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayhusky View Post

    Finally, just as a question.. Could you define the meaning behind the Senior Member catagory?
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    I hardly consider the title of "Senior Member" is not something around the lines of seniority based on those outlines. It's more or less something of note, so "Notable Member" would be a more fitting title for those individuals. The title given to ex-staff members who've left on "good terms" never done anything to piss off a buttload of people however is as significant as a screen door on a battleship.

    Instead of looking down, I'm actually going to take the time to say that ONE good thing has actually been done. Now, instead of having a bunch of lazy admins who do 9million different things, we have a handful of admins assigned to specific areas. Overall with sarcasm aside, the sectioning of the staff is a brilliant idea.
    This is good because if that specific area is lacking progress or has been a growing source of problems, there is the list of people who work in that section you can flood with PMs - You know who to contact first instead of jizzing on Neercakes. This is also good when it comes to labeling who is/isn't doing their job to expectations. If one section drags, it indicates that perhaps more qualified individuals are required and/or others may be needed/removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jayhusky View Post
    That said, I had noticed that more names had appeared on the forum leaders page.

    Secondly, these people that were added to the list (namely some in the super-mod section), how exactly??? I thought there was a moderators audition thread in which we applied for a position and then admins would decide who got in or out.

    Has that forum grown legs and disappeared into the wilderness?
    Some got promoted, some came across in the Furocity merger. The Moderator Audition board is only visible to members when we are actually accepting applications, and is hidden once the application period is over. We do not want every Tom, Dick and Harry shoving applications in because they failed to read an announcement letting them know we're hiring, similar to how many employers don't really want huge stacks of resumes lying around when there's no positions available- hand your resume in and they'll probably just use it for handy scrap paper.
    Just relax, man.

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