Rant: United States Drinking Age

[Ariosto]

YES i was calling EVERY DRINKER A DRUNK like that...why don't you go to the top of this page and catch up smarty pants.

As they say, "chill out dude". Why do you always look so angry? Permanent anger isn't characterizes FAF if that's what you think.

[Gibby]

So booze is required to "get out, socialize, enjoy yourself?" What a fail life.

When on earth did I ever say that, you little freak? And tbh I wouldn't consider it a fail life if you're actually getting something out of it.

[Ozriel]

What is it with young kids and booze?
You aren't missing anything. :V

I have no problems with "Supervised drinking", i.e. Drinking booze under the supervision of a parent.

[Sai_Wolf]

I got laid on Thursday. Didn't pay for the sex, and I wasn't drunk - I'd only had a couple of shots; so had he, so we were all pretty moderately buzzed, but not even slightly out of control. The party was fun, although to be fair, it was small; just the four of us, at their house, chilling out and playing Mario Kart and Monopoly with trance music and laughter.

Nah, alcohol just makes socialising slick. It doesn't suddenly make people deadbeats who can't eloquate or think and just act for sex. Maybe you should have some experience with alchohol, and some experience with a social setting, before you condemn alchohol, and social settings.

I don't know if my This went through, but I clicked it as hard as I could.

I get more loose with a moderate buzz, because I'm always tense and thinking things through too much. Just a bit of the happy juice is enough to let me relax and be more natural. And I'm not ashamed of that.

[SIX]

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[Ozriel]

I get more loose with a moderate buzz, because I'm always tense and thinking things through too much. Just a bit of the happy juice is enough to let me relax and be more natural. And I'm not ashamed of that.

I am the same way. I am more sociable when I've had enough Tequilla to make an elephant drunk. :V
I hate the feeling of getting drunk. It's not pleasant at all to me.

[zachhart12]

*admits defeat* ya still didn't get the picture, any of you, but it's fine. Argument over.

[SIX]

*admits defeat* ya still didn't get the picture, any of you, but it's fine. Argument over.

When you can't defend your opinion or even find a way to express a reason for what you believe, and can't find a way to attack the opinions and reasons that other people have presented, it's because you haven't got the picture, just sayin'.

[Sai_Wolf]

*admits defeat* ya still didn't get the picture, any of you, but it's fine. Argument over.

Of what? That you were coming off like an entitled brat? Yeah, I got that loud and clear.

I am the same way. I am more sociable when I've had enough Tequilla to make an elephant drunk. :V
I hate the feeling of getting drunk. It's not pleasant at all to me.

Apparently, I start to think everything is hilarious when I'm too drunk. That's how I know. Usually, I have enough to feel that buzz, then I just sip from then on. Never failed me.

[Tango]

Hell, in North Florida the legal drinking age was 'don't get caught'.

[NerdyMunk]

I think a number of people in this thread could really use a drink.

I am a chill enough person IRL to need it.
Of water? Yeah, sure.

[Vaelarsa]

Topic may have been dropped, or it might not have, but I still want to make this comparison:

I hate when people who have no experience with alcohol and its effects start lecturing about how it feels to get drunk, and how "stupid" it makes you, and how it instantly transforms your average, well-mannered person into Slutty McFightsalot. I am of the opinion that the frequency in which people fuck themselves up while drinking relies a lot more on societal standards and how we excuse shit just because someone is drinking (when really, we fucking shouldn't), therefore they go ahead and do it anyway.
I know shit like this relies on a person's own individual chemistry and a number of different factors, but I have not once wanted to fuck someone that isn't my fiance while I was completely fucking wasted. I've not started a bunch of fights. I've not done anything I regret, really. Because I'm not completely fucking stupid, and I know better, regardless of how much the scenery is blurring and how much I want to shout out the lyrics to Don't Stop Believin.

It really just comes off like a virgin who tries to write passionate sex scenes. A grand majority of the time, I'm sitting there face-palming because of how inaccurate and blown out of proportion everything is. It's annoying.
And then those same people look down on you for knowing better, and still enjoying it for what it actually is.
What the fuck?

[SIX]

People who are against alcohol for the purpose of socialising, should logically be against prescription drugs.

[Fenrari]

Having picked little shits like you out of pools of their own vomit and then helped clean them up till EMS services could stop by to make sure they weren't going to die of alcohol poisoning...

I just have to say, it is people like you who made my life miserable.

The fact that you think booze is some kind of miracle awesomeness makes me know that you aren't mature enough to handle your booze. This also makes me assume you're white.

As Katt Williams famously put it: "White people only have one thing on their mind when they go drinking: TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA GET FUCKED!"

[Echo Wolf]

Having picked little shits like you out of pools of their own vomit and then helped clean them up till EMS services could stop by to make sure they weren't going to die of alcohol poisoning...

I just have to say, it is people like you who made my life miserable.

The fact that you think booze is some kind of miracle awesomeness makes me know that you aren't mature enough to handle your booze. This also makes me assume you're white.

As Katt Williams famously put it: "White people only have one thing on their mind when they go drinking: TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA GET FUCKED!"

1. Yes its the highly irresponsible people like me that make your life a living hell. Yes because me drinking casually with a few close friends in the comfort and privacy of there's or my house is so awful. And how dare I be so dangerous with my drinking, how dare I drink to a moderate buzz. Not everyone is that irresponsible with their alcohol, you know that right?
2. I'm Hispanic.

[Spatel]

Topic may have been dropped, or it might not have, but I still want to make this comparison:

I hate when people who have no experience with alcohol and its effects start lecturing about how it feels to get drunk, and how "stupid" it makes you, and how it instantly transforms your average, well-mannered person into Slutty McFightsalot. I am of the opinion that the frequency in which people fuck themselves up while drinking relies a lot more on societal standards and how we excuse shit just because someone is drinking (when really, we fucking shouldn't), therefore they go ahead and do it anyway.
I know shit like this relies on a person's own individual chemistry and a number of different factors, but I have not once wanted to fuck someone that isn't my fiance while I was completely fucking wasted. I've not started a bunch of fights. I've not done anything I regret, really. Because I'm not completely fucking stupid, and I know better, regardless of how much the scenery is blurring and how much I want to shout out the lyrics to Don't Stop Believin.

It really just comes off like a virgin who tries to write passionate sex scenes. A grand majority of the time, I'm sitting there face-palming because of how inaccurate and blown out of proportion everything is. It's annoying.
And then those same people look down on you for knowing better, and still enjoying it for what it actually is.
What the fuck?

This is a good post, and people should read this post. I completely agree with it, even though I do not want to ban all the porn.

[Xaerun]

The sheer amount of xXxHardxCorexStraightxEdgexXx in this thread is nauseating. Do you have any idea how pretentious you're being right now? Any of you on this bandwagon?

The sheer amount of xXxHardxCorexStraightxEdgexXx in this thread is nauseating. Do you have any idea how pretentious you're being right now? Any of you on this bandwagon?

The sheer amount of xXxHardxCorexStraightxEdgexXx in this thread is nauseating. Do you have any idea how pretentious you're being right now? Any of you on this bandwagon?

The sheer amount of xXxHardxCorexStraightxEdgexXx in this thread is nauseating. Do you have any idea how pretentious you're being right now? Any of you on this bandwagon?

The sheer amount of xXxHardxCorexStraightxEdgexXx in this thread is nauseating. Do you have any idea how pretentious you're being right now? Any of you on this bandwagon?

Can't quote this enough.

Just a few legitimately tasty drinks (as in, better than goddamn soft drink) assuming you can get past the feeling of SIN and MALICIOUSNESS from partaking in the devil's drink:
http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/12922/malibu+splice
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...ipe/index.html
http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink6577.html

I'm betting a lot of the "ew alcohol" crowd are: 1) One to two years over the drinking age 2) Hipster as fuck, 3) Tried a sip of beer and went "welp, none of that for me" OR 4) a few years below the drinking age, and again are just trying to be edgy

edit: Lucky 5) don't understand that there is actually a range between 'sober' and 'throwing up all over the place', and you can drink without instantly hitting the end of that scale.

[jcfynx]

The issue isn't about alcohol as it is that Americans are less responsible than people in other places. If the driving age were raised to twenty-one, which I'd argue it should be, the need to regulate alcohol would be greatly reduced.

When the draft was lowered to 18, the drinking age followed. You could for a time drink in the US at the age of 18. However, anti-alcohol groups brought it back up to 21 through a federal law which ties highway funding to a state's alcohol sale and possession laws. As you can see, there is no real logic to any of this.

I was under the impression that automobile fatalities dropped markedly in states whose minimum drinking ages were raised by the National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984. This is in addition to an overall already greater rate of automobile accidents per capita under the age of twenty-one.

As you can see, there is no real logic to any of this.

There is always logic to everything. It just may not be logic you happen to agree with.

College kids

I wasn't aware they let children into college in your country.

[Ozriel]

People who are against alcohol for the purpose of socialising, should logically be against prescription drugs.

That happened some time ago...Decades.. It's called Prohibition, and look where that got us. :V

[Artillery Spam]

Can't quote this enough.

Just a few legitimately tasty drinks (as in, better than goddamn soft drink) assuming you can get past the feeling of SIN and MALICIOUSNESS from partaking in the devil's drink:
http://www.taste.com.au/recipes/12922/malibu+splice
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/a...ipe/index.html
http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink6577.html

I'm betting a lot of the "ew alcohol" crowd are: 1) One to two years over the drinking age 2) Hipster as fuck, 3) Tried a sip of beer and went "welp, none of that for me" OR 4) a few years below the drinking age, and again are just trying to be edgy

edit: Lucky 5) don't understand that there is actually a range between 'sober' and 'throwing up all over the place', and you can drink without instantly hitting the end of that scale.

Number 4 for me then.

[Digitalpotato]

That said it SHOULDN'T have to be a requisite for a fun time.

It most definitely shouldn't. If the only way to have fun is to get drunk or at least tipsy, then you honestly don't know how to talk with people.

[Xaerun]

It most definitely shouldn't. If the only way to have fun is to get drunk or at least tipsy, then you honestly don't know how to talk with people.

Relevant? (mostly from 1:40 on)

Also, people need to distinguish between "need to drink to have fun" and "have fun, also am drinking". A lot of the bitter 16-17 or 22-24 year olds are having a lot of difficulty with this idea.

[Unsilenced]

*admits defeat* ya still didn't get the picture, any of you, but it's fine. Argument over.

You said you admitted defeat, then said that it was only because we didn't understand, then declared that the argument over.

That's not how arguments work.

It's really not.

[Thatch]

Even if you think this you have to see my big problem with this whole thing. Whether I drink or not should be my decision now that I am legally considered an adult.

By this one sentence I can say - legally, yes. Emotionally no, you're not. Which is why you legally being considered an adult is wrong, not you being unable to drink. You're still a child that suddenly felt empowered. Basically, they shouldn't bring the drinking age down to 18 for you, they should consider you an adult at 21. Or even later :V

[SIX]

By this one sentence I can say - legally, yes. Emotionally no, you're not. Which is why you legally being considered an adult is wrong, not you being unable to drink. You're still a child that suddenly felt empowered. Basically, they shouldn't bring the drinking age down to 18 for you, they should consider you an adult at 21. Or even later :V

Saying that an eighteen year old isn't emotionally ready to drink alchohol is ridiculous.

The truth of the matter is that you've delayed their experience of alchohol for so long that by the time they get to learn how to deal with it, the mistakes they inevitably make - at 21, 25, or 38 - are crippling.

At 11, 14, 16, 17, and even 18, that's not so much a problem. A drunk kid is much easier to deal with than a drunk adult, and an adult who was a drunk kid at some point is far less likely to want to become a drunk adult - because they know what happens if they don't moderate.

Understanding succeeds knowledge when faced with curiousity. A kid who feels how much fire stings, won't jump into it as an adult. A kid who's told that "fire burns", might just be curious enough to want to learn what it's like as an adult.

Or to put it simply, your claim is the opposite of true.