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    Everytime I hear about new legislation being proposed that uses the words "Voters ID", My Blood Boils.

    Everytime I hear the words "purge" and "polls" within the same sentence, My Blood Boils.

    Then When I hear the pathetic excuse presented for such actions or changes, I want to bite someone's head off......



    The news was on, and First it had talked about some newish statewide(MN) legislation tightening the requirements to vote that would be on the ballots this fall. when this was proposed, they claimed it was to cut down on "voter fraud". Voter Fraud! If i remember correctly, this issue was brought up in congress, and there were only 300 cases of voter fraud from the ENTIRETY of the United States over 10 YEARS that they had as evidence. That would AT MOST be the difference in perhaps a mayoral election, but it was NATION WIDE from the last DECADE. 300 votes being used to prevent millions from voting. an outright abomination! It wouldn't be as bad if it wasn't so obviously politically motivated- as it would strike at seniors and the poor, two populations that overwhelmingly vote DFL!! And those who proposed this legislation, were, or course, the republicans in control of the state legislature.


    Then, later on in the broadcast, it talked about another "purge" of the polls in florida! I can't even recall the reason they gave for this one, but it was something along the lines of them being felons or illegal immigrants. It seems like they continuously purge the polls in florida! By they, i mean, or course, the Republican governor and those who seem to control the lists of voters. heck, 6 months before the presidential election of 2000 in florida, at least 80,000 voters were purged from the polls. the VAST majority of which were democrats. :/ and for those who don't know, that's AT LEAST twice the margin that bush won florida by, some 30 thousand or so. You could imagine my absolute delight at hearing they wanted to purge like another 80k voters WITHIN 6 MONTHS of the presidential election this year, which i thought there were laws against!


    Undermining the key values of democracy that this nation was built on to retain and aquire power.... just sickening!



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    OPs point has been entirely skewed by random caps lock and bolding.

    Sick formatting bro. :V

    Also "OMG FRAUD OVER 10 YEARS" thing is a bit of a misleading statistic given that elections for politicians happen every two or four years depending on what you're voting on. So it's more like 300 cases of fraud over the past 5 elections at most, as far as they are aware which is enough of a reason for someone to look into and try to create policy which discourages this kind of fraud.

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    What the shit happened with the random formatting and bolding there?

    Here's an unrelated fact: Did you know there are 10 countries that enforce compulsory voting? Australia even fines you if you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreaming View Post
    Australia even fines you if you don't.
    This. This is why I hate my country.
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    This could have been a good thread about how florida is screwing up their election process again and how we're in for the long haul with their new laws that are going to cause I don't even know how recounts and such, but OP screwed up.
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    I'm all for making it hard for people to commit voter fraud, but alas there isn't really much evidence to support it's a widespread problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by TillerTheTimberWolf View Post
    Undermining the key values of democracy that this nation was built on to retain and aquire power.... just sickening!
    This country was founded in part because we were sick of power being wrested away from us as a colony. :v

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    I don't think you're qualified to make that call.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenke View Post
    I don't think you're qualified to make that call.
    I'm talking about this shit-
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/28/us...pting-out.html
    Tl:dr of the new laws; Fuck you florida, why can't you hold a straight forward election just once for the other 49 states' sanity?
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    Tag-happiness aside, the OP is correct. Vote caging is the biggest way elections are tampered with, and it's a tactic pretty much exclusively employed by the Right. A fraudulent vote is easy to identify; a legal vote never actually cast is nvisible.
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    Heh. My illustrious ultra-conservative governor, Scott Walker, enacted voter ID laws last year--then attempted to shut down six DMVs, which is where a person usually goes to get the ID. You guessed it, all of the DMVs were in historically left-wing regions. Luckily, an outcry prevented the DMVs from shutting down, although the voter ID law remains intact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad Hoc View Post
    Heh. My illustrious ultra-conservative governor, Scott Walker, enacted voter ID laws last year--then attempted to shut down six DMVs, which is where a person usually goes to get the ID. You guessed it, all of the DMVs were in historically left-wing regions. Luckily, an outcry prevented the DMVs from shutting down, although the voter ID law remains intact.

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    Didn't Scott Walker's recall vote have over a 100% voter turnout?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CannonFodder View Post
    Didn't Scott Walker's recall vote have over a 100% voter turnout?
    No? It was like 60%.

    Possibly that number came from the number of new registrants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad Hoc View Post
    Heh. My illustrious ultra-conservative governor, Scott Walker, enacted voter ID laws last year--then attempted to shut down six DMVs, which is where a person usually goes to get the ID. You guessed it, all of the DMVs were in historically left-wing regions. Luckily, an outcry prevented the DMVs from shutting down, although the voter ID law remains intact.

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    is the governor of your state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonin Scalia View Post
    Scott Walker...

    is the governor of your state.
    Very good. You get a gold star, little buddy.


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    I love living in an incredibly corrupt democratic controlled district. Just try getting more than 30% of the vote as a non-incumbent opposition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CannonFodder View Post
    Didn't Scott Walker's recall vote have over a 100% voter turnout?
    I think that in some districts there was a turnout of over 100%, although i haven't looked into it.

    I wonder how long it has been since there has been a voter turnout of at least 90% in a major election...

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    Horay for Mark Dayton!

    Minnesota: 1 Wisconsin: 0
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    Quote Originally Posted by TillerTheTimberWolf View Post
    Horay for Mark Dayton!

    Minnesota: 1 Wisconsin: 0
    Come back when you've got someone who can beat Russ Feingold and Robert La Follette, hornhead.

    Wisconsin: Best state, with occasional speed bumps. :V


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ad Hoc View Post
    Come back when you've got someone who can beat Russ Feingold and Robert La Follette, hornhead.

    Wisconsin: Best state, with occasional speed bumps. :V
    hmmm, we may be straying off topic here. best to save this for later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad Hoc View Post
    Also don't double post; use the edit and multiquote functions.
    omg, there is a multiquote! thanks for that tip, will be a big time-saver!
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