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    Lightbulb How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    How?
    My great grandfather was a jew. But how does that make me " 1/8 Jewish"? Last time I checked I am a christian.
    I mean its not like being white, or being english. It is something you BELIEVE in, it has nothing to do with your bioligy does it?
    Like if one of your parents where a Christian, and the other wasn't religious. That wouldn't make you "half Christian" would it now? It all depends on what you believe in.
    I am a Christian, 100%. And what my parents, grandparents and great-grandparents believe in does not make one difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wikipedia
    A Jew ... is a member of the Jewish people, an ethnoreligious group originating in the Israelites or Hebrews of the ancient Middle East.

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    "ethnoreligious group"
    A religion, which I am not a member of.
    Anyway. There are only 3 real races; negro, caucasian and mongol.

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    "Ethnoreligious," as in originating from both ethnicity -and- religion. ^^

    There is a lot more to being Jewish than just believing in a religion. A lot of people use that term to also refer to anyone who is of Hebrew ethnic origin. So really, there are two types of Jewish people: Those who practice the religion, and those who are descended from the creators of the religion (who are considered an ethnic group). I suppose you could add a third: Those who are both.

    If it makes it less confusing for you, substitute either "Israeli" or "Hebrew" for "Jewish" when the ethnic group is being referred to (which is most often the case when someone says, "That person is Jewish.")

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    There are only 3 real races; negro, caucasian and mongol.
    Oh, get-dancing, no . . . read a textbook that's been written since 1952.

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Get-dancing
    "ethnoreligious group"
    A religion, which I am not a member of.
    To a devout Jew, you are not Jewish at all. To a skinhead, you're a downright kike. Now, what religious path you follow, if any, is fully up to you. It is your prerogative to deny who your ancestors were, but why? Do you fear skinheads and their ilk?

    Quote Originally Posted by Get-dancing
    Anyway. There are only 3 real races; negro, caucasian and mongol.
    Fool! There is only one race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le_Démon_Sans_Visage
    There are only 3 real races; negro, caucasian and mongol.
    Oh, get-dancing, no . . . read a textbook that's been written since 1952.
    He has been corrected previously on this matter. He just doesn't pick things up. Probably purposely. I guess I wouldn't care, it just gets old when he makes the same three threads over and over.

    Plus, you'd be surprised - when I was working on a project on the history of a certain taxon's classification, I had to deal with the PERSIAN SUB-RACE evolving from the "Paleopithecine" branch with a confluence at the Paleonegroid/Paleomongoloid Race. And that text was referring to something written in 1961.

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Get-dancing
    How?
    My great grandfather was a jew. But how does that make me " 1/8 Jewish"? Last time I checked I am a christian.
    I mean its not like being white, or being english. It is something you BELIEVE in, it has nothing to do with your bioligy
    LOL

    Im so siggin half of that. Yes actually you have to be an Isrialight to be a 'real Jew'. You can't just become a Jew, you can fallow the religion but if your not one of there race then you are not one of gods chosen people...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sateva9822
    but if your not one of there race then you are not one of gods chosen people...
    Isn't that the very definition of 'racist'? Im sure the KKK have a similer motive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf-Bone
    Quote Originally Posted by Get-dancing
    Anyway. There are only 3 real races; negro, caucasian and mongol.
    Fool! There is only one race.
    Is it white or black? That's all I'd like to know as a concerned citizen.

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    Originally, everyone was black. But thats a different subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get-dancing
    Originally, everyone was black. But thats a different subject.
    When was I black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Get-dancing
    Quote Originally Posted by sateva9822
    but if your not one of there race then you are not one of gods chosen people...
    Isn't that the very definition of 'racist'? Im sure the KKK have a similer motive.
    Indeed it is. Thats why the Jewish religion isent one I have much respect for...

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    Being a jew is something people choose to be, if you didn't choose it *or your parents bombed you to be one* then your not a jew, not even a half one.

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    We could always go to wikipedia for the meaning of life!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_christians

    And I think I have a new quote.

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    sateva9822: Just look into that assumption a little further. I don't know for cetain myself if that's wrong or not, about if that's central to the Jewish faith about some sort of racial superiority, but it sounds and awful lot like some propaganda spit about by Stormfront and the like.

    jellyhurwit: The one race is human. Your earliest common ancestor to all of us was what nowadays is called Black: African.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sateva9822
    LOL

    Im so siggin half of that. Yes actually you have to be an Isrialight to be a 'real Jew'. You can't just become a Jew, you can fallow the religion but if your not one of there race then you are not one of gods chosen people...
    That's not even remotely true. The Jewish religion accepts converts just like any other.

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    sateva, someone's been telling you tales out of school about the Jews. They are an industrious and intelligent people and make good soap...

    plz do not ban me. not nazi

    Actually, a lot of people in this thread have no idea what they're talking about. At all.
    A) The proper term for someone who's ethnically Jewish (as opposed to religiously Jewish) is "Semitic", but that term isn't used very often anymore except in the term "Anti-Semitic." "Hebrew" is likewise an archaic term and refers only to the language. Because there is actually a country called "Israel," people who are from that country are "Israeli" (or "Israelite" if you want to be old-school), and a nice, assimilated Jew who lives in, say, New York would not be referred to as either. Just "Jewish" is the term.
    B) The question of who is Jewish and who is Not (yes, we use that term because it's more polite than "Goy") is one that nobody can agree on. For most Orthodox congregations, you need to have a Jewish mother to be ethnically Jewish; some Reform Jews consider people who merely marry Jews but do not convert to be Jewish. However, if you convert to Judaism, you are considered to be Jewish no matter what--the only communities who would not accept a Jewish convert on grounds of their ethnicity are hardcore fringe groups who bear the same relation to Judaism as suicide bombers do to modern Islam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capthavoc123
    Quote Originally Posted by sateva9822
    LOL

    Im so siggin half of that. Yes actually you have to be an Isrialight to be a 'real Jew'. You can't just become a Jew, you can fallow the religion but if your not one of there race then you are not one of gods chosen people...
    That's not even remotely true. The Jewish religion accepts converts just like any other.
    They accept them yes. But in thier bible it states the Isrialites are gods chosen people and blah blah blah...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf-Bone
    sateva9822: Just look into that assumption a little further. I don't know for cetain myself if that's wrong or not, about if that's central to the Jewish faith about some sort of racial superiority, but it sounds and awful lot like some propaganda spit about by Stormfront and the like.

    jellyhurwit: The one race is human. Your earliest common ancestor to all of us was what nowadays is called Black: African.
    And what makes us special is that we transcend that race! :3

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sateva9822
    Quote Originally Posted by capthavoc123
    Quote Originally Posted by sateva9822
    LOL

    Im so siggin half of that. Yes actually you have to be an Isrialight to be a 'real Jew'. You can't just become a Jew, you can fallow the religion but if your not one of there race then you are not one of gods chosen people...
    That's not even remotely true. The Jewish religion accepts converts just like any other.
    They accept them yes. But in thier bible it states the Isrialites are gods chosen people and blah blah blah...
    Well, one, it's called the Torah. Two, yes, we are God's chosen people, but that just means we have a special compact with God, not that God hates any other races.

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    Quote Originally Posted by sateva9822
    Quote Originally Posted by capthavoc123
    That's not even remotely true. The Jewish religion accepts converts just like any other.
    They accept them yes. But in thier bible it states the Isrialites are gods chosen people and blah blah blah...
    Do some actual research before making assumptions.

    Israelites (which, in the context of the Torah, means Jews) are God's chosen people. This does not in any way mean that God hates other peoples.

    When someone converts to Judaism, they are considered to be Jewish. Not some sort of pseudo-Jew. It's exactly the same as how in Christianity you are considered to be saved once you accept Jesus as your lord.

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    I'm reminded of a story where Groucho Marx was told he was barred from a certain swimming pool because he was Jewish. He replied, "My son is half-Jewish - do you think they'd let him in up to his knees?"

    (Story is probably not true, but I like it anyway.)

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    Default RE: How can someone be "half Jewish"?

    If they are 'gods chosen people' then why are they also one of the most persecuted in history?

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    *facepalm*

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