Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by SuperShermanTanker, Mar 23, 2017.
What if your grandmother gets offended by EVERYTHING?
Even LIVING people?
Okay, my grandmother was offended by a multitude of things. In fact, she was a hateful old biddie that hid behind The Bible and misinterpreted the scriptures for her personal gain. We loved her but she was hard to get along with, God rest her soul. Or Devil rest her soul.
Imagine your grandmother in hell.
Baking pies, without an oven.
Um well, more like throwing bake sales to buy air conditioning. Satan wouldn't put up with her for long.
Even if she makes the best damn pies this side of the hellfire?
yes.. folks like the OP, (that hold that position), as not everyone (in the Fandom) - agrees with that point of view.
yeah... real simple, isn't it ?
gotta get dat "o" in front of that "k" though.. ya'know.. proper grammer, and all..
"Stan, want some pie?"
"YOU BAKE PIES EVERY FUCKING DAY! AT THIS RATE I'LL FUCKING SEND YOU TO HEAVEN BECAUSE I CAN BARELY STAND THIS SHIT ANYMORE! AND LET THOSE SMUG FUCKS UP THERE DEAL WITH YOU INSTEAD!"
I think that's still G-rated.
Grandma made some killer chocolate cakes and as a young stud, I never missed a donut fry at the church. Nothing like fresh raised donuts, no glaze or sugar on them. Sadly she took that recipe with her and I dearly hope Beelzebub loves donuts. I'm sure the place is air conditioned by now and the lawns all seeded/sodded/mowed to perfection. She bribed us grandkids with cake or dried apricot pie in exchange for a Saturday mowing and weeding her front and back yards.
On topic, some of the issues with finding a clean, SWF site are the artists, making sure everyone sees their art by failing(?) to flag it as NSFW. I know my list of FA, SF and DA artists I'm watching are not very big ones. I just removed an FA artist recently because they have stopped flagging their work as adult.
Yeah, clean, SFW sites are not that prevalent. It's sad but a fact of the Intarwebs.
As I let on in another post, she was hard to get along with. Her killer apple and dried apricot pies not withstanding, she would be quoting scripture to Beelzebub, using her version of chapter/verse. That's why he would at some point send her back up to let The Almighty deal with her. She certainly corrupted the scriptures, that's for sure.
Wheras the bible (KJV, 1 Timothy 6:10) says; "For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." Grandma's version was, "Money is the root of all evil." If you tried to correct her, she would get madder than an old, wet hen. "Don't you try to correct me!" she would say, shaking her finger at you. "I know what the bible says!"
The trouble was, grandma loved money. More than her own family. She lived in what seemed like damned near poverty on Social Security and my Grandfather's Railroad pension and Miner's Pensions. When she passed away, we were shocked by her bank account balances. And that was after one of the family (unknown who it was) did some industrial-strength account raiding.
But I digress. Sorry for the sidetrack.
I'm impressed that anyone can be so condescending, and then proceed to point out petty grammar while making several mistakes of their own.
First, capitalize the first letter of your sentences. Second, there should be a comma between "k" and "ya'know". Third, you have to use three periods instead of two to create an ellipsis. Using two just makes it look like you either hit the period key twice for no reason, or you're not brave enough to commit to making a full omission of thought.
In short: fuck entirely off. This forum topic clearly doesn't affect you at all if you don't agree with it, so go somewhere else to spew your misplaced elitism. Since you're gay, I'll illustrate a relatable example for you of how shitty your response is: how would you feel if you requested a place that featured gay-positive art, stating your distaste for current mainstream representation, only to be told by straight people to just "don't look at it" and "others don't agree"? Doesn't feel good, does it? Get out of here if you have nothing to contribute.
That's a matter of opinion and debate.. one can certainly argue that 3 is better than 2.. (like in a Ménage à trois).. but, I happen to like em' 2 at a time, honey..
My goodness.. for someone who is advocating for a "clean side" for the Fandom "to interact" - your language certainly doesn't reflect that... and uh, (back at ya).. sweetheart.. ;o)
I see. So, if one doesn't agree with your viewpoint 100 % - then they can go elsewhere?
I've been told this everyday of my life.. (your quote above) reflects a bit of ignorance of the realities that I - (as a gay man) face in this Country, everyday.
No, it doesn't. Nor does a "lynch mob mentality" espoused (on an anonymous thread) for someone who dares disagree with your views.
I'll simplify, because the point clearly went way over your head. Either that, or you are intentionally deflecting. But just in case you aren't:
1) You, as a gay man, know exactly what it's like for people to tell you to "don't look at it" or that "others don't agree" in regards to straight people disagreeing over the presence of gay culture, gay art, and gay spaces, and trying to force heterosexuality on you by denying the need for representation and gay spaces. We both agree that those are terrible things to tell someone, and you as a minority have been dealing with that struggle all your life. So why would you tell people here (who are seeking their OWN spaces to identify with) those EXACT same things? Don't you think that's not only rude as hell, but none of your business?
2) In regards to swearing, I'm looking for a sexually-clean furry space where I can have some relief from the darker side of the fandom, and sex-related imagery in general. As I was involuntarily born asexual and aromantic, I would love to find a space that I can associate myself with where I can have some peace of mind. Ace spaces are extremely hard to find because there are so few of us, so as soon as I saw this forum thread I jumped on the possibility that something so awesome could exist. I have nothing against swearing, I swear like a sailor IRL, I'm just looking for an ace space in an endless sea of yiff and porn.
3) In regards to this: "I see. So, if one doesn't agree with your viewpoint 100 % - then they can go elsewhere? Nice."
If that's what you gleaned from my statement in response to how you were being elitist and condescending, then you have missed the point again. People disagree all that time, and that's fine, and completely normal and no big deal. Where you crossed the line was with your belittling attitude regarding grammar. You were trying to give me a 1UP over something so petty, to try and give yourself some sort of moral high ground to validate your previous commentary. But what really set me off was that it was preceded by the implication that mine and the OP's views were less important than yours by you interjecting about how "not everyone in the fandom agrees".
So no shit, not everyone agrees. We all know that. You can tread on the "that's just my opinion" line all day long if you want, but here's the thing: your opinion isn't wrong. It's the fact that you chose to share it at the wrong place, at the wrong time, in the nastiest way possible. I don't have a problem with your opinion. What I DO have a problem with is you sharing it here when we're trying to find our own space, and how doing so on your part was unhelpful, unwanted, and just downright hurtful.
Also don't call me sweetheart. It's patronizing.
Can't find this sex-free space you so desire? Create it. Simple as that. You have plenty of ways of making it: Discord, Kik, Telegram, Skype, group conversation over the forum and sew it completely to your liking.
If sex is "dark" then what are being a Furry?
That's literally what this topic is about. Making exactly that space you describe, and how to go about doing it, and where. Thanks for reiterating something that was posted on this topic several times previously, though. You know, for people who may have missed it the first few times.
These "Sex free places" and SFW places exist. You just have to know where to find them. You don't have to make what already exists.
And, you can be furry without sex being the pivotal centerpoint.
BTW, nice meme. I snorted coffee all over my keyboard.
There's plenty of examples and suggestions previously in the thread. Personally I would recommend Discord, as it allows you to set up the server however you like.
Sex is part of natural human behaviour and instinct. Yes, you can do without it, as a lot of people do.
I don't know about any SFW/sex-free places myself, but there should be plenty of them out there. If you can't find it, create it. That's where I am getting at.
I just have to point out that the sexual and fetish stuff isn't as easy to avoid on FA as some people like to suggest.
I've actually posted in the past, looking for a way to just leave automatic filters on for my front page to avoid specific material because medical crap makes me have cheonic nausea. Let's just say that even technically "SFW" vore content can trigger me, in ways that are immediate and messy, as opposed to emotionally.
That being said, I greatly admire the creative safe zone that this fandom is, even if it does produce layers upon layers of stuff that I am uncomfortable with. This creative freedom is seemingly randomly associated with people whom find Thundercats to be a lifegoal, but I'm olay with that. The "Art World" of academia and New York galleries, with its blood art, suicide performance pieces and giant salt has nothing on furries in that regard. Those "Real" artists have a super judgy and fickle culture. If anyone else tells me "Art is dead" I'll scream.
But yeah, please just update the friggin site already, so I can experience this eccentric group of creative people on my own terms. I think a *lot* of cleanfur folks would be more comfortable that way, too. I think half the userbase wants some kind of an update anyway.
Segregation can only lead to agitation. Just ignore the inflation and masturbation station like the rest of the nation.
A dope rhyme with rhythm, but no one's talking segregation. Just a nicer, alternative place to be a member and share art and stories, with the peace of mind that we won't accidentally run into anything gross or unsavory. There used to be a PG-level place called Yerf, but someone thought it would be funny to hack it and take it down. Probably by some salty sailor whose application to join was denied.
Lmao, why didn't I find this little GEM?
Fucking thumbs up from me!
A squid with 2 tentacles isnt a squid
I don't know what kind of crazy esoteric shit you're trying to pass by me, I'm pretty sure a squid with two tentacles is still a squid.
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