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    Quote Originally Posted by Tufts View Post
    Have you guys ever tried moneybookers, paymate, or you know.. getting an actual merchant account? To be honest, you deserve to have the money taken away from you, as that money should have been pulled out immediately. Have you ever heard of all the paypal/paymate/etc horror stories?
    Yes, even merchant accounts have denied us over it.
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    while i dont like drawing cub porn or watching it, its still sad for those cub artists that they wont be able to watech their fetishes
    its just like vore, and zoophilia, etc etc etc, if they got their favorite fetishes banned from a site they'd be sad
    i'd be sad
    my friends would be sad and look for a better site too~ so, i feel kind of sorry for those cub fans

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    Guys, can we save this shit storm till after tomorrow, as tomorrow is our traditional "find out what kind of fetish the banner for thanksgiving is"

    also cub artist arent gone, just they arent allowed to draw the cub characters in porn, just like how loli and shota characters cant be in adult situations.




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    Thank Goodness,

    To me cub porn it is exactly like seeing child porn, only its an animal baby instead D:
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    If the other art sites that use alert pay still are not dropped, that have cub porn,
    is it possible to sue them for only picking on FA and not others?

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    Its weird that AlertPay freaks out over CP yet even more stuff that is sick and wrong and make people hurl is still A OKAY. And I Dont even like Cub and I still think that was a bitch move. And due to that interesting reply Dragoneer made. we are fucked regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer Bleu View Post
    If the other art sites that use alert pay still are not dropped, that have cub porn,
    is it possible to sue them for only picking on FA and not others?

    ...no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElizabethAlexandraMary View Post
    FUCK FRENCH PEOPLE THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO CELEBRATE "WINNING" THE WAR
    They won? as far as I remember, their crowning moment of awesome was still fighting after the armistice was signed, against petain's orders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoneer View Post
    We have options, but we're not going to exercise those options until we are in a position we can handle things.

    And... we lost a sizable amount of money. I won't say how much, because the numbers make me cry. As for crisis? No. We'll be fine, but we have to get through this first.
    Did you get into business with alertpay well knowing they wouldn't agree with cub porn, or was it just thrown at you? What did they cite? It just sounds really fishy, unless you just fucked up and didn't pay attention to what you were getting into.
    Did you only start talking to companies before or after this incident? Is there any way to get the money back?

    Because an amount of donations that would 'make you cry' sounds like a hell of a lot of money to lose without a fight, and it would be rather disrespectful to the people who donated in the first place to just let them go.

    (BTW for those watching, I'm not poking at this to get cub porn back, I don't want it on FA, it's not the place. just FYI.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lando View Post
    There's no risk of Inkbunny ever banning cub
    I never implied that they would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stargazer Bleu View Post
    If the other art sites that use alert pay still are not dropped, that have cub porn,
    is it possible to sue them for only picking on FA and not others?
    HAHAHA

    oh my god are you serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crysix Fousen View Post
    Guys, can we save this shit storm till after tomorrow, as tomorrow is our traditional "find out what kind of fetish the banner for thanksgiving is"
    Oh Lordy wouldn't it be funny if it were cub!

    Not saying it would ever happen...but still.

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    @aquavixen
    Notice how you are one of the very few who don't agree with this? Just saying..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felicia Mertallis View Post
    yeah, as long as you don't say something like "This is my character, she is 15 and loves to fuck" your fine, just draw your character, whatever age it may be in your head and don't give it an age on FA.
    Actually no, you wont be fine. 'neer ha said they will also look at the picture, not just what you label it as.

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    This is very juicy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoneer View Post
    Corporations aren't controlling freedom of speech. They're controlling money.
    Effectively, if you control the money, you control freedom of speech. Because you are right, the quandry is that you cannot provide a forum for people to express their views without having money. And the corporations control the money, so you have to restrict freedom in order to get the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElizabethAlexandraMary View Post
    Well gee sure, we should just let the site go down in the name of freedom. FIRST AMENDMENT BOI
    We should start sending anti-pedophiliphobic letters to city/town, prefecture/provincial/state/territorial and national governments before it's too hopeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asswings View Post
    Did you get into business with alertpay well knowing they wouldn't agree with cub porn, or was it just thrown at you? What did they cite? It just sounds really fishy, unless you just fucked up and didn't pay attention to what you were getting into.
    Did you only start talking to companies before or after this incident? Is there any way to get the money back?

    Because an amount of donations that would 'make you cry' sounds like a hell of a lot of money to lose without a fight, and it would be rather disrespectful to the people who donated in the first place to just let them go.

    (BTW for those watching, I'm not poking at this to get cub porn back, I don't want it on FA, it's not the place. just FYI.)
    i agree that something seems fishy about this. seems like FA was looking for a convenient scapegoat in order to ban cub porn. not that i'm complaining

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    I'm honestly glad to see cub porn banned.

    Hopefully FA can get its income back.
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    If it's the equivalent of oops walking in, it's probably ok. It really comes down to context which becomes a really tricky question, but the innocent version of this I don't think would violate anything. I think the particular problem their lawyers have has to do with a decision made in the US Supreme Court some years ago defining further what constitutes illegal pornography. It's an entire mess to sort through because of a number of problems many have mentioned but currently it's not actually illegal as far as I know. The site I feel is a bit hands tied with this one unfortunately.

    Speaking as objectively as I can: I expect respect for what role I play in the fandom and I give the same respect back. I may not agree, but on it's basis this mature art never hurts child and the parties involved are okay with it, I don't see how I can say it's not allowed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semerl View Post
    We should start sending anti-pedophiliphobic letters to city/town, prefecture/provincial/state/territorial and national governments before it's too hopeless.

    Won't somebody think of the children pedophiles?!

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    This will not end well for certain artists with their fixations on cubs. Especially a certain wolf.....
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    still waiting for an answer to my post here --> http://forums.furaffinity.net/thread...=1#post2261246

    as the significance of the wording of the new AUP can pretty much ban every piece of art if the mods/admins feel like it, and can end up with quite a few artists finding themselves violating the rules in drawing fanart, like over at DA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asswings View Post
    Did you get into business with alertpay well knowing they wouldn't agree with cub porn, or was it just thrown at you? What did they cite? It just sounds really fishy, unless you just fucked up and didn't pay attention to what you were getting into.
    Did you only start talking to companies before or after this incident? Is there any way to get the money back?

    Because an amount of donations that would 'make you cry' sounds like a hell of a lot of money to lose without a fight, and it would be rather disrespectful to the people who donated in the first place to just let them go.

    (BTW for those watching, I'm not poking at this to get cub porn back, I don't want it on FA, it's not the place. just FYI.)
    Before you can accept AlertPay for money reasons they have to do a manual review of your site and approve/disapprove the content. So we let them do that, and they greenlit FA. Then somebody reported us, a ticket was opened and the account put on hold... six days later the account was shut down.
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    Default Re: The New Policy on Cub

    Dragoneer, I can see some confusing stuff coming from this thread. Specifically the use of "cub art" instead of "cub PORN". AFAIK, you're only removing the pornographic art of cubs, why not state it as "cub PORN"?
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