I am greatful to be able to help others

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by Elf-cat, Oct 11, 2017.

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If my fursuit clothing were stolen how expensive would it have to be, to be worth helping me out?

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  1. $250.00

    33.3%
  2. $2,500

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. I wouldn't help you because you're not a popufur

    66.7%
  1. Elf-cat

    Elf-cat I judge a book by it's cover, & I'm 75% correct!

    I am greatful to have the oportunity to help others even though most other furries wouldn't help me if my life depended on it. So I guess I have to be stronger and not be Clumzy as the popufurs are with their belongings and financial dependance on their fans. There will be a time where the Internet is systematically shut down by many sources at once. I am building up my strength for when that day occurs. So when the fluff hits the fan, I'll be ready. In the meantime I'm going to help as many friends as possible reguardless if they return the favor or not.

    I have a question, be honest.

    If my fursuit clothing were stolen how expensive would it have to be, to be worth helping me out?
     
  2. Water Draco

    Water Draco I shal breath my fire on SPAM

    You left out on the pole:

    Sorry but I have Family to look after, Income tax, Rent, Council Tax, Food, Electricity, Gas, Water, Sewage, Telephone bills and so on to pay, and my wallet only serves to carry around the receipts that serve as the reminder of the money I no longer have.
     
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  3. Yakamaru

    Yakamaru Mein Gott

    I do not give money to strangers. Period. If your fursuit, be it partially or fully, gets stolen, file a claim on it and hope for the best.

    Hell, I barely give money to family or friends. It's called having my own problems.

    We are not obligated to help someone else. If I am to give a stranger any money I expect something in return.

    Also. Keep track of your shit in public. Even at home. Keep the door locked.
     
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  4. Gr8fulFox

    Gr8fulFox Member

    *Grateful. Or 'gr8ful', whichever.
     
  5. Dox-Tucy

    Dox-Tucy New Member

    It depends to if i know you and how much i know you. I think most of people have it the same...
     
  6. Pipistrele

    Pipistrele Smart batto!

    Well, fursuits are luxury/hobby item. Expecting strangers (or even friends) to give you money for another one is kinda assholish in itself - it's not like you need those money for important surgery or something like that.
     
  7. ellaerna

    ellaerna Sass Master

    As most people have said, we don't all have the means to help every person who asks for it. I love giving and helping others, but I'm also struggling with my own financial issues right now. If I'm going to give, I want it to be for something important. Someone doing commissions to cover their rent, or asking for help with medical bills, or simply looking for a way to get their next meal.

    No matter how expensive that fursuit is, it's not a necessity. It's a luxury that you can live without. Yeah, it would suck if you sank hundreds or thousands of dollars on something just to have it lost or stolen, but if you're in a position to sink hundreds or thousands of dollars on a costume, then there are much needier people my limited funds could go to.
     
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  8. -..Legacy..-

    -..Legacy..- Well-Known Member

    1: I'd have to know you personally, as in I've known you for many, many years.

    2: You actually need it for a scheduled paid event, or some other type of similar event that actually has consequences to not being able to fulfill some type of contractual obligation.
     
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  9. Saiko

    Saiko GTWT Survivor

    Option D.) I wouldn't help because I don't know you at all
    Option E.) I wouldn't help because I don't have $250 to spare
    Option F.) I wouldn't help because it's a lost fursuit, not an emergency
     
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  10. Simo

    Simo Skunk

    You'd have to agree to become a skunk, for one.

    No more of this 'cat' nonsense, that's for sure!
     
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  11. Crimcyan

    Crimcyan Not so grump

    If your suit did get stolen most of the people who you would ask for help would just keep an eye out for them and not help you buy a new one. I race rc cars and those things get stolen all the time beacuse they are around 2k each to build and the size of footballs almost. I haven't had any of mine stolen but for the people who did loose them no one will help them pay for a new one, they will just cheack on selling sites.
     
  12. Elf-cat

    Elf-cat I judge a book by it's cover, & I'm 75% correct!

    @everyone I know right? Tell that to Clumzy the white lion!
    He had his fursuit stolen, he was stranded in California temporarily until he realized he still had his credit card.
    He ended up maxing out his credit card to get back home.
    Since he has a job, shouldn't have accepted money from friends. Accepting the "Go fund me" money was a asshole-ish thing to do when he could've paid all that debt in a couple of years.
    So yeah, it's unfair that people like Clumzy catch a break like that while furries like us have to struggle to get things of luxary.
    He doesn't deserve a fursuit if he's Clumzy enough to get it stolen and not keep it secure.
     
  13. Jarren

    Jarren You can't just quote yourself! -Me

    Something tells me you're missing the main point people are trying to make here.

    A fursuit is a want. A very expensive want that people often spend a lot of effort, time, and cash on and tend to treat very well. But still a want.
    People only have do much money and they have to tend to their own NEEDS first. Then the needs of their family, and possibly friends who are in a tough spot. After that, they'll tend to their own wants and those of their family. Some people give charitably at about that point, but without having their needs covered, it's very hard to donate to others, ESPECIALLY for a want. Yes, it sucks that this guy got good stuff stolen. Yes, it's fine to ask for help buying a new one. Nothing wrong there. Yeah, people can donate whatever they want to help and can do what they want with their money. No, they are not obligated to give their money to a stranger to fulfill a want of theirs. And nobody should expect random charity, especially for a luxury purchase like this. If the guy needed an operation, or help making rent, or getting his next meal, then yeah there are places he can go and expect help and people will likely donate if he asks. Also, nobody is saying he shouldn't have accepted money from his friends or that he's being selfish for asking for help. (Nice strawman though). Charity is not mandatory and not dependent upon the value of the thing. Take care of yourself, give what you can to who needs it, do what you can to help people, but never feel entitled to the help of others, because they are not required to help you, just like you're not required to sacrifice for them.

    Edit: also, how does getting your suit stolen leave you stranded?
     
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  14. Ginza

    Ginza Unironically Ironic

    Hold up... what? I'm sorry, I guess I'm just totally lost on all this. This thread isn't about you? Who the hell is "clumzy" and what does he have to do with anything? If he isn't you, why are you downtalking him, sharing his personal stories, and linking his pages here?? I'm confused as to whether you're being serious, trolling, or being sarcastic. It's hard to tell what you mean by anything you've posted here. If you're trying to be sarcastic with this above post, sorry, I don't have any sympathy for this "clumzy" guy. It's not my problem you went to cali, didn't plan accordingly, and somehow managed to max out your credit card. Why was he even stranded in the first place? Did he not bring money, planning on oh I don't know, going home?? There's not a lot of context here, and yes, expecting people's hard earned money for a FURSUIT, is a pretty dickish thing to do.


    I'm just struggling to find how anything you've said in this thread is relevant to your original question. Even in your original post, you went off on some random banter about "the Internet being shut down systematically" which was confusing and irrelevant. Besides that, who cares about what this other guy does? None of your business.
     
  15. Yakamaru

    Yakamaru Mein Gott

    Ah yes, California. America's anus. No wonder he got his shit stolen. California's going down the drain fast, with pedophiles no longer going on the sex offender list, knowingly transferring HIV to your partner without telling them is no longer illegal not to mention you can go to JAIL for not using someone's pronouns correctly. The more I read about California the more I weep for my friends in America. Suggestion: Stay out of California.

    If he has a job he can afford a new suit at some point. File a claim on the suit, and hope something pops up. If anyone use it it public they can and will get their ass arrested for stealing property.

    A luxury is 100% optional. That is why it's called a luxury. If you decide to buy something which is in no way, shape or form is required for living, it is defined as a luxury, and the costs and loss are on you, not someone else.

    If you move about in public you are to be prepared on the odd chance you can and will have your shit stolen.

    Also: PLAN PROPERLY. The idiot managed to get stranded and fucking max out his credit card!
     
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  16. ellaerna

    ellaerna Sass Master

    I am also confused. Was his money in the fursuit when it got taken? But not his credit card? Did he not have a plane/bus/train ticket home or was that in the fursuit that got stolen too?

    Just getting his suit swiped shouldn't have left him stranded. So I assume he was also robbed of all his funds and travel documents (which is weird, but I'll roll with it for now).

    Assuming this, it becomes less a matter of helping someone replace a suit, and more a matter of helping someone who was robbed, stranded, and in debt from getting home. Debt sucks ass, so yeah, I might have helped if I could. If he was just asking for funds to replace the suit, then nah.

    You seem really salty over this. Maybe cut back a bit, lest you give yourself a heart attack.
     
  17. ellaerna

    ellaerna Sass Master

    Oh, almost forgot, no one is an asshole for accepting money that was freely given to them. But keep reaching, friend.
     
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  18. Jarren

    Jarren You can't just quote yourself! -Me

    I'll chime in with another point.

    I'm in a position where I too can afford to help people out. Given the choice between,

    A. A charity helping victims of war/natural disasters.
    B. A friend in dire financial straits.
    C. Some dude from the internet who got his mascot costume stolen.

    Guess which cause is at the bottom of my list?
     
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  19. Yakamaru

    Yakamaru Mein Gott

    ...I hate guessing. I suck at it.

    Going to choose D: Family member who are drowning in debt. :3
     
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  20. Saiko

    Saiko GTWT Survivor

    I find it odd that you've singled out such a specific, obscure person as an example of your point. It's also odd that you boasted about being selfless and super helpful but are upset about someone receiving help from presumably selfless people.
     
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