IMPORTANT: NSFW ARTWORK PLEASE READ.

Discussion in 'Art Exchange & Trades' started by Moderator-Gazelle, Mar 17, 2016.

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  1. Moderator-Gazelle

    Moderator-Gazelle Forum Moderator Staff Member

    At this time, according to the forums rules, we are not allowing R-18 or NSFW content visibly embedded in posts.

    Content will be modified or altered due to this restriction. As a courtesy, I will not be placing infractions on any content made before 3/17/2016.

    NOTICE: This does not apply to external, tagged content or FA content with an 18+ restriction, as it's not content embedded in your FAF post

    This may be reversed at a later date once the forums are given more space to breathe and we have some more tools in place.. but until then this is where we are.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2016
  2. Fallowfox

    Fallowfox T-Tauri

    I'm starting to doubt that it's worth being on this forum.
     
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  3. malibu

    malibu Member

    Does this mean we can't link to outside content even with a warning (nsfw) tag?
     
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  4. Fallowfox

    Fallowfox T-Tauri

    Or to content on FAF which literally can't be visited without an 18+ registered account with its maturity filter disabled?
     
  5. Moderator-Gazelle

    Moderator-Gazelle Forum Moderator Staff Member

    ...The current rules state that it can't be embedded in your posts... It doesn't say in the rules one way or another that tagged external content is a problem as it's not on FAF. So I don't see a problem with it.
     
  6. Shadify

    Shadify Yiffox

    Hmmh, I don't really like this idea. =\ Does it mean that now we just need to say "Please check my FA gallery to see NSFW arts too" or smth like that?... It's just a link to show some example of nsfw art..
    Well I don't know. =\
     
  7. Fallowfox

    Fallowfox T-Tauri

    ...erm, that's the rule we've always had here.

    Are threads requesting NSFW commissions, which themselves feature no embedded content, going to be removed?
     
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  8. Moderator-Gazelle

    Moderator-Gazelle Forum Moderator Staff Member

    Me neither. For now you should be safe to just link and tag.

    Threads requesting NSFW will/have been removed. This came up in a staff meeting regarding some content that was caught in moderation.

    At first it was going to be ALL content... but now the conversation has shifted to just embedded content, rather than embedded and linked.

    (I apologize for the confusion)
     
  9. Recurrent

    Recurrent Artist for hire

    So you can no longer even seek out/look to hire artists for NSFW art on the forums without an infraction even if nothing is embedded and nothing of a NSFW nature is described?

    Can you still advertise that you offer NSFW art as an artist on the forums?
     
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  10. Wakor

    Wakor Wakor Jones

    So, no one can ask for NSFW commissions, and no one can say they do NSFW art??
    What the hell. Not that I'm particularly fond of furry smut, but some of us make a living off of it.

    Can someone make a post saying, "Looking for an adult piece" and link to the NSFW details off the forum? (ie: "I'm looking for an adult piece of my fursona. My budget is $100. More details here: [LINK]")

    Since a lot of my commission examples are NSFW, my art shop's pictures are censored (naked characters are cropped and put in modest leotards) with the warning "NSFW" written on it. Is that no longer allowed, or is it ok??

    Why was this decision made in the first place?
     
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  11. Fallowfox

    Fallowfox T-Tauri

    I'm bumping this thread because I think Wakor and Recurrent have good points; if the thread content offering saucy commissions doesn't itself feature any graphic descriptions or embedded content, and users must be over 18 to even view the artist's previous saucy commissions, then why is there any reason to prohibit this?

    I'd rather you actually get your act together about responding to spam bots, than concentrate on this bizarre strategy.
     
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  12. TheKC

    TheKC O w O,

    I kind of wonder if they will make a more adult section of the forums where we could take NSFW commissions.

    How it is now, might have something to do about US laws. I think I've seen something talked about before on a petsite I've gone too.
     
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  13. Fallowfox

    Fallowfox T-Tauri

    Current US law forbids distributing material of an 'erotic' or 'excretory' nature to minors. So technically posting a picture of a dog turd could be considered illegal.

    Asking for a nsfw commission and linking to a gallery on fur affinity which can only be viewed by over 18's doesn't violate these standards anyway, because at no point does any minor get exposed to any erotic image or vivid description.
     
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  14. Shadify

    Shadify Yiffox

    Hmm, yeah.. I wonder if it's possible to make SWF mode up here, just like on FA or Weasyl, idk. It's not a big deal to make a new section for NSFW stuff like art, literature, commissions, etc... with no children who can actually see this stuff, of course. ^^'
     
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  15. TheKC

    TheKC O w O,

    I think they would have to make age limit forum section only that only appears when you are above the age limit.
    Its something though, That may need to be coded by staff and not a forum add on. so it could take some time.

    I see FallowFox point and I agree, but usually the one buying art will talk about what they are looking for and that my be disturbing to kids. Over all, if I was was site owner, I would want to be safe then sorry. I wouldn't want the site to get sued or shut down.

    Again I should say, I don't work here. I don't know what they are doing. Just thinking what I would do in their shoes.
     
  16. Willow

    Willow *honks la cucaracha horn*

    this kind of seems like you guys are making an issue out of nothing. I really don't see the reason why this forum would need a specific section or an SFW just so people can embed porn. let's just be blunt about that. just say it's not allowed and that inquirers need to be 18+ to view the material. it's that simple. if it's a matter of people giving detailed descriptions of what they want, then say that's not allowed and they need to disclose those details in private. you don't have to please everyone with the rules and things like adult filters are pretty pointless.

    also PG-13 is a really big grey area since sexual content is permissible to a certain extent so long as you don't go into explicit detail in the post.
     
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  17. Moderator-Gazelle

    Moderator-Gazelle Forum Moderator Staff Member

    I agree with this, and I'll make sure it gets into our discussions.

    The main reason this thread was made in the first place was because of the vaugeness of the initial rules surrounding SFW/NSFW content allowed on the forums. I will let y'all know now that we're in the middle of rewriting our current form of rules and I'm most certainly making sure issues like this one are being addressed.

    Some background on this, we received a report by a user who was looking for SFW content, received a reply with embedded NSFW content, which was then reported as being "not in place" which sparked a conversation on our NSFW position, which is leading to us working on our forum ruleset.

    Some of the ideas expressed in here are great, and we're defiantly taking this all into account... Thank you all so much for your feedback on this! For now i'm going to lock this thread so we can keep it a notice, but if you wish to continue the conversation forward with me, please send me a PM and I'll be happy to address what I can!
     
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