Is furry porn ruining the fandom?

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by AustinB, Mar 12, 2017.

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Do you think furry porn is ruining the fandom?

  1. Yeah, it is! (Strongly Agree)

    8.3%
  2. I'd say so. (Agree)

    11.5%
  3. Ehh. Yes and no. (Neutral)

    26.0%
  4. Nah. (Disagree)

    27.1%
  5. No, it isn't! (Strongly Disagree)

    27.1%
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  1. nerdbat

    nerdbat Green butt of reason

    I kind of disagree on the notion that "furry porn is just porn" since, well, even compared to hentai (at least relatively tame hentai that you can find in aforementioned stores, if you can call such stuff tame, lol), furry porn is more than a bit "out there", since it basically borders on zoophilia - and that "beasty" element is, in my opinion, the primary reason for why outsiders have less tolerance for furry porn than, for example, ordinary human porn in drawn form. That throws the argument off for me personally, though I can see where you're going with it.

    To be fair, 30% is still a damn big ratio. It's kind of amusing to exclaim out loud, "Our fandom isn't as pervy as it may seem! Not everything here is porn, only every third picture!"
     
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  2. Aleksion

    Aleksion They killed me

    What's wrong with porn? Haters will look for any excuse to hate
     
  3. -Praydeth-

    -Praydeth- The Trickster coyote.

    That is not what it is from a outside perspective at least though i don't exactly agree with parts of these statements anymore but, ill explain why it's not just hair.
    Furry porn does not exactly Just mean you find hairy things erotic. A established part that i think has to be present for it genuinely to be considered furry porn is physical animalistic traits. We all know there are shark anthros and that with that would come porn with shark anthros. I am certain a majority of you would agree that porn with shark anthros present is furry porn. Sharks do no have scales they have cartilage this something humans have as well if someone likes sexual depictions of shark anthros i doubt they would say "I JUST REALLY FIND CARTILAGE EROTIC".

    So what else is there that would be present for the person to find erotic? Animalistic traits whether it is the personality traits they apply to a shark or it's physical ones. So them liking a character with fins, tails, elongated face/nose/snout even though this isn't a trait even present in sharks but is common in what i have seen is in anthropomorphic sharks, webbed appendages. So they just see them for a personality you could say is that of a shark. No that's not exactly anything that would be attributed as a fetish they just think a certain personality is sexually enticing.


    Having characteristics that are similar to a animal / are able to be described with animals does not make something or someone "FURRY". You can say someone is sly like a fox, as prideful as a lion, has the temperament of a sleeping bear and moves like a sloth. That does not make someone/something "FURRY". So all that is really left is physical traits that are not in humans it doesn't have to exactly be present in a animal or the one that the person that is into. Such as webbed appendages or Dragon wings witch no animal actually has. Yet it can still be described as being "FURRY" Without anything relating to hair at all but in fact sometimes them having no hair at all.

    To simply put it if you like furry porn you find physical animalistic traits that are not present in humans erotic. You find maybe the fact that it has the leg shape of a wolf, or a long bushy tail, or a elongated face or a snout/nose, (seriously that is one thing that kind of disturbs me the most..... just whyyyyy? and why do you have too say in open chat that you are snuggling and booping each-other gives me dam goosebumps) Maybe it's the way they have ears+tails that can move and show expression on top of having eyes, eyelashes, dimples that can blush, eyebrows, smiles, frowns, grins posture of our human limbs, etc. You like it because it has something that a typical person does not or is "animal" and you find that erotic.
     
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  4. I believe porn is everywhere. You aren't going to get away from it. Many people look at porn now and again. I think furries are just more open about it. That openess is the part that is the trouble. (In my opinion.)
     
  5. -Praydeth-

    -Praydeth- The Trickster coyote.

    I agree with that and i don't think too many people disagree.
     
  6. Kirkzer

    Kirkzer Active Member

    I have no interest in it and find it disturbing but I do not see it as a bad thing. A lot of people only use the Internet for porn or cats and combined the two you have furry porn! Its going to get a lot of attention but most furries are shy about it so cannot see it ruining the fandom. The fandom just needs more positive press but most press is interested in the bad so that's why it gets more attention but at the same time porn based on fictional anthropomorphic characters is not a bad thing.
     
  7. Alex K

    Alex K Guest

    But without furries we wouldn't have porn. I mean why would anyone wanna see completely naked folks having sex?
     
  8. Crimson_Steel17

    Crimson_Steel17 The night is my solace; the day is my prime

    Let's face it: the normies say something fairly similar about many aspects of furry porn...
     
  9. Alex K

    Alex K Guest

    But the normal folks usually have their hair or wigs on durin the sex so that it looks more appealin to the visitors
     
  10. Simo

    Simo Skunk

    Nope, I think it's improving the fandom, and helping people feel less and less guilty about sex, something the US in particular still seems to have a lot of hangups about.

    So if furries can explore fantasies via porn, some of which can only exist in the imagination, and make them fun and exciting, I think it's very liberating, and a good way to push back against the Puritanical guilt still lingering about here in the US over sex.

    I see nothing wrong with celebrating sex and pleasure, and no reason to make it some huge taboo.
     
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  11. Dark Raven

    Dark Raven Guest


    yeah because haters wouldnt grasp on anything they can get to point fingers at things they dont like

    we dont owe the society, at least i dont think we as furries have any obligation to please them.
     
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  12. Dark Raven

    Dark Raven Guest

    pretty much this, like hellloo, we dont live in the age of inquisition when porn was immoral and the work of the Devil himself.


    People, porn is just as relevant in society in general, get over it
     
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  13. nerdbat

    nerdbat Green butt of reason

    ...no, seriously, it kind of amuses me that everybody claims "porn is a natural and normal for society" despite the fact that we basically jerk off to animals, which is the furthest thing from "natural and normal for society". I mean, even as somebody who defends furry porn to a degree, I think we have an elephant in the room here.

    naked, pervy elephant
     
  14. ArtVulpine

    ArtVulpine Member

    I don't think porn in of itself is ruining the fandom. As said before, all fandoms have the adult side from Star Wars, to MLP, to Disney. (See Rule 34)

    I do think the idea of "Draw Porn, Get Famous" is a problem because it perpetuates the stereotype that furries are just about porn and if you are a clean furry artist you won't get noticed.
     
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  15. Rant

    Rant Haters Gonna Hate

    I agree this fandom places adult content on a gilded pedestal and worships it but the second anyone points out how strange it is they get so defensive!! "You're only saying that because the media demonizes furries!" "It's not about porn at all!" "That's only a tiny percent who likes that stuff!"

    But stop and for a minute and just look. Look at at fa, ink bunny, look at the most popular artists and fursonas and you'll see that 90% or more is adult content. The most popular furries are porn stars.

    The furry community is more about the fapping and worship of porn stars then of the fun and creativity of making something new.
     
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  16. Lcs

    Lcs Well-Known Member

    In the sense that a lot of people have unusual kinks, then it actually is natural and normal.
     
  17. nerdbat

    nerdbat Green butt of reason

    Of course, definition of normality is highly subjective, but the word "kink" itself means more or less "abnormal and unconvential sexual practice", which is, again, the opposite of "normal and natural". As I said, I'm not against having kinks and fetishes, it's just that people in this thread describe porn with animals, anthropomorphic or feral, as something completely normal and socially acceptable, which is, putting it lightly, a liiiiiittle bit debatable :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Sergei Sóhomo

    Sergei Sóhomo Well-Known Member

    Hell no. It's the defining feature
     
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  19. quoting_mungo

    quoting_mungo Administrator Staff Member

    Fair enough; to each their own. I've seen some hentai that gets pretty far into sadism/humiliation territory sold in stores, and there's plenty of characters in mainstream media that are obviously intended to be attractive and that are, if not expressly furry, at least not entirely human, either. (Peg Pete, for instance, off the top of my head.) I wouldn't say the attraction to furry characters necessarily is as closely related to zoophilia as it is to xenophilia, and humanity has a long tradition of using fables and anthropomorphism to portray concepts. My experience has been, throughout, that if you're matter-of-fact about the existence of adult material, very few people will actually have an adverse reaction. (We're talking something like... maybe 2-5% of the people I've had conversations about fandom with. I honestly get more shit about being in a LDR.) Sex negativity in general is a bigger problem than the furry porn itself, when it comes to disapproval of furry porn.

    That's suggesting that you can't have fun and be creative with drawing adult content. Which is pretty ridiculous, to be honest. I find drawing adult content an interesting artistic challenge, and mentally stimulating in a way that has nothing to do with tittilation. Whether I draw smut or clean art simply doesn't matter to me; it's all art in the end.

    To me it read like LCS was saying that having kinks is common; that says nothing about the individual kinks. I'd tend to agree with Lcs that most people have some non-vanilla thing they're into, but what that thing is will vary widely. Honestly I'd sooner define "kink" as "something not inherently sexual that grants sexual gratification or excitement". The whole thing is a bit of a continuum from "preference" ("I like blondes better") through "exclusive preference" and "kink" (and I'm honestly not sure which order those two should be in), to the pathological definition of a fetish (non-sexual desire prerequisite for sexual gratification).
     
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  20. Crimson_Steel17

    Crimson_Steel17 The night is my solace; the day is my prime

    Did you even do ANY research?! Last I checked, FA's annual census of their content was locked at 30% NSFW works, and that's not by restricting it at that number- it's a trend that's held for several consecutive years. I think you have the same problem the mainstream media had there for a long time: if you go looking for porn, you WILL find porn. Quite frankly, I've found far more SFW works on FA (gee, I wonder how that trend I mentioned earlier could possibly affect that), and it's more than enough to keep my artistic appetite sated for quite some time.
     
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