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    Angry Unfair suspention.

    I'm a little upset with an unfair decision. I went to check my messages last night and found my FA account locked out.
    I was a little confused with this as I haven't done anything wrong nor have I uploaded anything in weeks, also I received no warning of any kind which is unfair in itself.

    I looked into it and was even more confused when I found this.



    Access Suspended
    http://1.2.3.13/bmi/www.furaffinity....ages/Error.png Your account has been temporarily suspended for the following reason:


    YouR account has been suspended for multiple TOS and AUP violations:

    -Consistently referring to another individual as a 'pedo' in comments and shouts, and being disrespectful towards other users in general

    -Representing individuals in demeaning situations situations (involving urine, feces, etc.)

    This will be your final warning before your account is permanently suspended.




    The suspension will be lifted after the amount of time specified below.0000.00.29 14:56:13



    Should you feel that this is a mistake, please send an email to our accounts department




    I haven't broken any rules, yes I called someone/refered to someone as a "pedo", but I never used his name nor dropped any hints to who he is.
    To make matters worse he isn't even on FA as he got a life ban for trolling.
    Now maybe if I was allowed to use his screen name I wouldn't have to call the child loving freak "pedo".
    Also the only people I've been disrespectful to is people that started on me first.
    People like the one I call pedo started this by calling me a dog f*cker first and the FA admin refusing to ban him and his friends, the other person said my opinions don't matter because I screw animals.
    I only defended myself when the admin refused to do their jobs.

    I never represented people involving urine and feces. I drew a trud once with ears and a tail, wasn't aimed at anyone and the said drawing was a request by one of my Sofurry watches and had been up months with no problems.
    The second drawing was of a collie peeing on a man in a gasmask, just like the other drawing had been up months without any problems, and again this was a request by a friend, I told said friend I couldn't draw faces so it would have to be covered somehow.
    Why a gasmask? Because as I've already said I can't draw human faces yet and it was either a gasmask or a tented bike helmet, I just happen to be watcing an episode of Dr who that had gasmask zombies in it.


    Any admin that bans someone over these facts shouldn't be an admin, probably a snot nosed child that is too young to be on the site anyway.
    It isn't fair that I got a 30 day ban over this, more so as I've never had so much as a warning nor got any warning or signs my content in the months it was up would earn me a ban.
    FA has been ban happy lately, banning users over trival and minor offenses.
    To make matters worse my friend Diamond13 has also being banned, for what? No one knows, the only thing I can think of is that she replied to my comments and my have answered a shout where I used the term "pedo".
    Not only do I feel a 30 day ban is heavy handed over what should at most be a slap on the wrist I also don't like how other uses have done far worse and never got punish but I having never even had a telling off go straight to a final warning.

    Both myself and Dimaond13 have been treated unfairly by this decision, the admin who saw fit to dish this out should be stripped of his position and made to give both me and Diamond a public apology.



    This is why FA has such a bad name.

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    Should you feel that this is a mistake, please send an email to our accounts department
    There it is, right there at the bottom of that note. If you feel suspending you was a mistake then click that link and e-mail them about it. However, I'd probably bother only with the whole 'representing individuals in demeaning situations' - that one might be a misunderstanding on the admin's part, but everything else? You kind of confirmed that you DID call someone a 'pedo' and that you WERE disrespectful to others, no matter if they started it first or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    People like the one I call pedo started this by calling me a dog f*cker first and the FA admin refusing to ban him and his friends, the other person said my opinions don't matter because I screw animals.
    I only defended myself when the admin refused to do their jobs.
    'Defending yourself' does not have to come down to insults and namecalling. Did you report them to the admins, filed a Trouble Ticket, anything? How do you know the admins refused to ban them? How do you know Diamond was unfairly suspended; did you talk to them outside of FA? From a note that only offered bullet points as to why you were suspended, you're jumping awfully quickly to extreme conclusions.

    E-mail them, and ask the questions there. We're only hearing one side of the story - yours. In the meantime, relax. If it's all a big misunderstanding, your suspension can be easily lifted... and if you're in the wrong, then eh, wait out the 30 days, and be careful with how you handle "trolls" and rude comments in the future. Block button, use it!
    Last edited by Ilse; 05-27-2012 at 05:12 AM.

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    The admins are not heartless animals, instead of making this forum post it would have been best to consult them directly. You are given the option from your ban screen, talk to them and find out what's going on and if you can work it out.

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    I'm not a site admin. I'm just here to ask you to please not spam this message all over the forums like you've been doing. Thank you.
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    There it is, right there at the bottom of that note. If you feel suspending you was a mistake then click that link and e-mail them about it. However, I'd probably bother only with the whole 'representing individuals in demeaning situations' - that one might be a misunderstanding on the admin's part, but everything else? You kind of confirmed that you DID call someone a 'pedo' and that you WERE disrespectful to others, no matter if they started it first or not.



    'Defending yourself' does not have to come down to insults and namecalling. Did you report them to the admins, filed a Trouble Ticket, anything? How do you know the admins refused to ban them? How do you know Diamond was unfairly suspended; did you talk to them outside of FA? From a note that only offered bullet points as to why you were suspended, you're jumping awfully quickly to extreme conclusions.

    E-mail them, and ask the questions there. We're only hearing one side of the story - yours. In the meantime, relax. If it's all a big misunderstanding, your suspension can be easily lifted... and if you're in the wrong, then eh, wait out the 30 days, and be careful with how you handle "trolls" and rude comments in the future. Block button, use it!





    I tried that and the link doesn't seem to work.
    I filed tickets but the childish person saw fit to hide on DA and spread his lies knowing it would reach FA.

    I've never hurt an animal nor even dreamed of having sex with one.
    I may be a fur but I'm not a pervert.


    I wouldn't mind the ban if they had said "SP, fix your gallary and knock off the comments, you have 48 hours to put these things right or you will face a ban."
    That's warning and I've been happy to, but the art work wasn't aimed at anyone and had been up months.


    I'm going to wait and see what happens.

    I couldn't, the ban stops me loging into the site, all I get is a countdown timer and when I try a link the screen turns blank.

    Quote Originally Posted by M. LeRenard View Post
    I'm not a site admin. I'm just here to ask you to please not spam this message all over the forums like you've been doing. Thank you.


    That was a mistake not spaming.
    I didn't know where to put it and by the time someone told me I had already done the others.

    I new to the forums.
    Last edited by M. LeRenard; 05-27-2012 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Merged triple post.

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    edit your post dont make new post until someone else post, that is spam and we hate double or even triple posters

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    I was replying to each message in turn, I thought it was like the comment box on FA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    YouR account has been suspended for multiple TOS and AUP violations:

    -Consistently referring to another individual as a 'pedo' in comments and shouts, and being disrespectful towards other users in general

    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post

    I haven't broken any rules, yes I called someone/refered to someone as a "pedo", but I never used his name nor dropped any hints to who he is.
    To make matters worse he isn't even on FA as he got a life ban for trolling.
    Now maybe if I was allowed to use his screen name I wouldn't have to call the child loving freak "pedo".

    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post

    Also the only people I've been disrespectful to is people that started on me first.
    People like the one I call pedo started this by calling me a dog f*cker first and the FA admin refusing to ban him and his friends, the other person said my opinions don't matter because I screw animals.
    I only defended myself when the admin refused to do their jobs.
    What they did/said doesn't justified for your actions. You clearly knew that you were referring to someone as that and kept it up. This isn't something to 'Defending yourself', as Punjab had said. This is something to report and move on. This is, to me, 100% justified

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    I was replying to each message in turn, I thought it was like the comment box on FA.

    no there is a reply with quote button and beside it is a speech bubble with a " mark and a + beside it, you click that button and it adds that post to be quoted, you can click up to three post and on the third one you can hit reply with quote and it will auto generate the quotes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinxtails View Post


    What they did/said doesn't justified for your actions. You clearly knew that you were referring to someone as that and kept it up. This isn't something to 'Defending yourself', as Punjab had said. This is something to report and move on. This is, to me, 100% justified


    That is bullsh*t.
    I didn't name any names, add links or openly call the person out. The worst I should've got was a telling off, its the first time I've ever been in trouble.
    If they had done their jobs and banned these people at the start of it none of this wouldn've happened.

    Don't you think a month is a bit steep? There's art thieves and trolls that have gotten less.
    Also I'm not the only one that has had to deal with an unfair ban lately.


    The admin could've at very least faced me and warned me, given me a fighting chance to put the things right.

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    Ah.
    I didn't know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    Ah.
    I didn't know that.

    you are still double posting, dont do it- its against FAF rules, just because you dont know the rules and you are new isnt an excuse

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    ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    I couldn't, the ban stops me loging into the site, all I get is a countdown timer and when I try a link the screen turns blank.
    When click the email our account's department it brings up a seperate window that looks like an email inbox. It will ask you for your email address then it will bring the compose box up. You can then type your side of the story and the admins will read it and determine action from there.

    You do not have to be logged on anything to do this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    The worst I should've got was a telling off, its the first time I've ever been in trouble.
    Yeah, right. You have had multiple journals and comments removed in the past so claiming that this is a first time really doesn't endear you to anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    That is bullsh*t.
    I didn't name any names, add links or openly call the person out. The worst I should've got was a telling off, its the first time I've ever been in trouble.
    You openly referred to someone as a "pedo" a number of times and you're shock that you're being hold responsible for your actions? You're a(I'm assuming) grown man and should know better for how words can come off to other people. You should know better and should think things through before acting like the rules doesn't apply to themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    If they had done their jobs and banned these people at the start of it none of this wouldn've happened.
    Or, you know, reported it in the first place and not talk to them or post anything about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    Don't you think a month is a bit steep? There's art thieves and trolls that have gotten less.
    Nope. Oh and, saying, "but others are doing worst things, so I can be slapped on the wrist for this!" doesn't help you in the less bit. What others are doing have no bearing on your actions. Oh and, do you have any prove of this? I've seen posts like this on the WoW forums of players posting things that they have no facts to back them up just to say that they're right.

    I'll give you a idea: Let say I'm in a raid with some people in LFR, (Looking for raid), when someone started mouthing off at me for my DPS, (Damage per second). This doesn't allow me to curse at, mock, call them every bad word under the sun. The GMs, (Game Masters), wouldn't allow me to get off free because I was mouthed at.

    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    Also I'm not the only one that has had to deal with an unfair ban lately.
    Many of them like to say it it's unfair after trolling, stealing pics and posting them on their accounts and calling them their own, going around a tamp ban on their account to do the other things I've said and then some.

    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    The admin could've at very least faced me and warned me, given me a fighting chance to put the things right.
    Face you for what? This isn't a street fight. You got a warning and you'll get your account back in a month.
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    Sounds like you're mad, bro. Maybe you should look at this completely justified ban as a reason to do something else. Like, go outside.

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    I'm was mad last night, now I'm just hot and drained.
    I've got talking to an admin, looks like my email made it through after all.

    I wouldn't mind but I got no warning and a friend of mind got banned for 30 days as well for no reason.

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    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked yet.
    Since FA typically fails to show you what parts of the ToS you are in violation, here's a rough translation:
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    "Don't impersonate, harass or defame Fur Affinity users, staff or moderators."

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    "Fur Affinity strives to allow users freedom of expression where possible, but asks users refrain from making comments, journals, statements or posting material which is racist, bigoted, defamatory, otherwise offensive towards any particular sexuality, philosophy, religion, illegal gambling (raffles, games of chance) or content alluding to illegal activity or child pornography. Disruptive behavior meant to interfere with the normal flow of the community will not be tolerated, and we frown upon mob tactics and organized harassment. Comments which are overly aggressive, personally insulting or abusive are prohibited."

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    Uhm, dude, it's just a month.
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    Not the point Hiderimty, I didn't do anything wrong and neither did Diamond13.
    The worst I should've got was a warning, I didn't get a warning and that made the ban unfair.

    A lot of people have being getting these pissy bans and it always over a stupid reason.
    A number of the users that have had these bans are on Sofurry right now and their talking about removing their gallaries and uploading to SF and IB only from now on.
    This is going to cost Neer in the long run.


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    I didn't break the rules, some tin hat admin jumped the gun.
    Last edited by S.P; 05-27-2012 at 10:58 AM. Reason: Typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    Not the point Hiderimty, I didn't do anything wrong and neither did Diamond13.
    The worst I should've got was a warning, I didn't get a warning and that made the ban unfair.

    A lot of people have being getting these pissy bans and it always over a stupid reason.
    A number of the users that have had these bans are on Sofurry right now and their talking about removing their gallaries and uploading to SF and IB only from now on.
    This is cost Neer in the long run.

    i assume you ment this will cost neer in the long run, and no it wont, if people are asshats and do shit to get banned then fuckem, because if they disrupt the community then they arnt welcome. PERIOD. I am sure they will screw the pooch somewhere else and get banned as well, ignorance or blatant disregard for rules on fa isnt tolerated. You screw up accept what comes to you. Bitching and bawing about how its unfair that YOU and others CHOSE to break rules and finally getting punished- do you see your failed logic? Do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P View Post
    Not the point Hiderimty, I didn't do anything wrong and neither did Diamond13.
    The worst I should've got was a warning, I didn't get a warning and that made the ban unfair.

    A lot of people have being getting these pissy bans and it always over a stupid reason.
    A number of the users that have had these bans are on Sofurry right now and their talking about removing their gallaries and uploading to SF and IB only from now on.
    This is cost Neer in the long run.
    Uhm, dude, maybe if you type me up an essay on why a month is so horrible, maybe your ban will be finished by the time it's done. :V
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    When you say "I didn't do anything wrong" please consider the following.

    I'm not a mod but I did look at the journals in question and yes you did break one of the rules of FA. Your journals are considered call out journals, you don't have to name the people in question. If you bring outside drama into the website (FA) then its considered calling out.

    They made account after account because your kept blocking them *which was the right thing to do* but if you keep reponding then they will keep responding. Also the fact that several journals were made over the same drama further proves that you were willing to continue the argument therefore calling the said trolls out.

    Both parties are just as wrong in this case. As for why you did not get a warning I'm not sure, that is best for an admin to explain.

    Also for future reference I would like to give you a tip. When trying to do away with your suspension or ban I would not make a forum post about it. This should be a private matter between you and the admins, having post to a public forum will and can further damage your claim.

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    I didn't do anything wrong.
    I certainly didn't earn the ban.


    The troll that called me a dog f*cker got a fair warning. The admin knew about those journals and didn't ask me to remove them.
    I had the right to fair a warning and a change to remove anything against the site rules.
    But if they won't tell me what can I do?

    My point is those journals are old, haven't be touched in months some of them.
    Most were buried and forgotten.
    So why punsh me for something that's old news?
    Last edited by S.P; 05-27-2012 at 11:05 AM.

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