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    Two teens age 15 and 16 were bored, so they decided to gun down a random jogger. What the bloody hell. Do I even need to say more?
    They killed him. Because they were bored. 'Merica! Fix your shit!

    They are also being charged with first degree murder, a third teenager is being charged as beeing an "accessory to murder" as well. They are charging them as adults, not as kids. So depending on the sentences their lifes are essentially over. They go to jail, get back out and then they are pretty much doomed to fail in our society. Awesome! One guy dead, four lifes ruined in total! Neat.

    And then there is another thing I find weird, but this is about the american media system...
    No american news sites show their photos. You know, like they usually do in every other murder case. But the australian news sites (the baseball player was australian) DO show their faces.
    The two teens who are being charged with murder are black. Why is it that when Zimmermann shot Martin his face was all over the internet but no one shows photos of these kids even though they admitted that they shot someone because they were bored?
    I just find this interesting because it tells me that America still has some things to learn when it comes to racism. That for some reason this still is a hot topic even though it really shouldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCool View Post
    And then there is another thing I find weird, but this is about the american media system...
    No american news sites show their photos. You know, like they usually do in every other murder case. But the australian news sites (the baseball player was australian) DO show their faces.
    The two teens who are being charged with murder are black. Why is it that when Zimmermann shot Martin his face was all over the internet but no one shows photos of these kids even though they admitted that they shot someone because they were bored?
    I just find this interesting because it tells me that America still has some things to learn when it comes to racism. That for some reason this still is a hot topic even though it really shouldn't be.
    It has to do more to do with some of the backlash from the coverage of the Boston bombing and some of the other shootings, where people have accused the media of "glamorizing" the killers by showing their faces causing many to opt to focus on the victims. Also you linked to MSNBC which is unashamedly liberal and hosts famous race baiter Al Sharpton so of course they won't show the killers to avoid him going on a racial tangent like he did with the whole Trayvon Martin debacle.
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    It has to do more to do with some of the backlash from the coverage of the Boston bombing and some of the other shootings, where people have accused the media of "glamorizing" the killers by showing their faces causing many to opt to focus on the victims. Also you linked to MSNBC which is unashamedly liberal and hosts famous race baiter Al Sharpton so of course they won't show the killers to avoid him going on a racial tangent like he did with the whole Trayvon Martin debacle.
    Did they stop posting photos like this all together then? This is just something I noticed because usually photos of suspects are all over those articles!

    Edit: Haha, this is fucking awesome! First I made a rant complaining about annoying turkish kids today and now look like a racist
    Don't worry guys. Still not xenophobic and definitely not a racist. This is just something that struck me and I probably interpreted it the wrong way :3
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    Did they stop posting photos like this all together then? This is just something I noticed because usually photos of suspects are all over those articles!
    It usually goes in like stages. When the news first breaks out the media tends to either post the killers face everywhere or go on about how their "better than that" and focus on the victims and what not, while simultaneously hammering you with constant reminders that they're only talk about the killers because they have to. Due to the controversy around Rolling Stone magazine using a picture of the Boston Bomber as their cover they've opted for the latter.

    Then a week later the opposite happens so if they weren't showing their face they'll start plastering it everywhere and if they didn't they'll start focusing on the families and stuff.

    Either way by the end of the month they'll start plastering his face everywhere without giving a shit until they find something else since the media has like ADD. Trust me, I spent like 4 years straight watching nothing but cable news, this makes me a scholar.
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    It's general practice in US news media that minors' (people under the age of 18 or sometimes 17) photos (and usually their names) are not provided in order to protect their identity, even if they committed a criminal act. In the internet age, this is increasingly becoming ineffective. George Zimmerman is a different case because he was in his 20's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCool View Post
    Edit: Haha, this is fucking awesome! First I made a rant complaining about annoying turkish kids today and now look like a racist
    Don't worry guys. Still not xenophobic and definitely not a racist. This is just something that struck me and I probably interpreted it the wrong way :3
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    Default Re: Teenagers shoot jogging baseball player "because they were bored"

    Americans need guns to defend themselves...

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    Back in my day, when I was bored, I played Axelay. I blew alien brains out in a spaceship. Not human brains...in real life. Kids these days. :I
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    Fucking teenagers.

    Couldn't they have sit at home and smoke pot all day if they were bored?
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    The story I heard was that they "wanted to prove themselves".
    Have a nice day.

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    Personally I blame hip hop and nintendoes for corrupting our youth.

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    On the subject of publishing people's pictures and names it is unlikely that these facts can be kept in the dark in the internet age but I also think that when news channels publish suspects' names and photos that they're being irresponsible.

    There was a murder in Bristol a few years ago and the news published pictures of the victim's landlord, saying how he was the prime suspect and that everyone who knew him said he was an eccentric creep.

    It turned out he was innocent, so publishing his picture and name essentially ruined his life. :\ Innocent until proven guilty.

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    Or, Fallow, remember how people started making threatening calls to the wrong George Zimmerman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune Cross View Post
    Americans need guns to defend themselves...
    Not sure if that was sarcasm? The guy who was shot was Australian, and he probably didn't see it coming. But who knows, maybe he did try to run away, hence being shot in the back.

    I mostly wonder where the parents were during this, and why the kids had access to a gun in the first place...

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    Default Re: Teenagers shoot jogging baseball player "because they were bored"

    Dude, what the fuck.



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    Not sure if that was sarcasm? The guy who was shot was Australian, and he probably didn't see it coming. But who knows, maybe he did try to run away, hence being shot in the back.

    I mostly wonder where the parents were during this, and why the kids had access to a gun in the first place...
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    The story I heard was that they "wanted to prove themselves".
    At least it will make their trial very easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune Cross View Post
    It was sarcasm
    I see. Sorry. ^^;

    But I still wonder why the kids had access to a gun. I wonder if it belonged to the parents, and they just didn't lock it up? Or did they somehow get a hold of it some other way?

    I also wonder why they decided to kill someone to stop their boredom. There are far less destructive things one can do when bored. Seriously, what kind of decision-making is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCool View Post
    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...-oklahoma?lite

    Two teens age 15 and 16 were bored, so they decided to gun down a random jogger. What the bloody hell. Do I even need to say more?
    They killed him. Because they were bored. 'Merica! Fix your shit!

    They are also being charged with first degree murder, a third teenager is being charged as beeing an "accessory to murder" as well. They are charging them as adults, not as kids. So depending on the sentences their lifes are essentially over. They go to jail, get back out and then they are pretty much doomed to fail in our society. Awesome! One guy dead, four lifes ruined in total! Neat.
    Well, as you said, they did shoot a young, innocent man for no reason. They're obviously horrible people, so a strict punishment seems necessary. You let these kids go, they probably go out and cause more trouble. I'm not saying give them decades in prison or whatever, but they shouldn't get off easy.
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    But I still wonder why the kids had access to a gun. I wonder if it belonged to the parents, and they just didn't lock it up?
    Either that or a black market, most likely.
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    And in (un)related news, across Europe 100 women are raped per day, and about a third of them murdered. Of course no one brings this up because someone shooting someone in America is sensationalist candy. That's not to say it's not fucked up, but it's pissing me off that people act like this sort of shit ONLY happens in America, and ONLY happens because of guns. >:/
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    But I still wonder why the kids had access to a gun. I wonder if it belonged to the parents, and they just didn't lock it up? Or did they somehow get a hold of it some other way?
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    Are you sure this isn't GTA? Shoot a random tourist and gain 5 stars, forget the Lose Wanted Level cheat and hide behind a house for an hour

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    And in (un)related news, across Europe 100 women are raped per day, and about a third of them murdered. Of course no one brings this up because someone shooting someone in America is sensationalist candy. That's not to say it's not fucked up, but it's pissing me off that people act like this sort of shit ONLY happens in America, and ONLY happens because of guns. >:/
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    and ONLY happens because of guns. >:/
    Well it is kind of hard to shoot someone with a gun that you don't have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hakar Kerarmor View Post
    Well it is kind of hard to shoot someone with a gun that you don't have.
    This is true, which is why people in places where they don't have guns, people stab, bludgeon, and other wise manually murder each other instead. And absence of guns doesn't mean an absence of violence. A fact the antigun set find very inconvenient I've noticed. After all, the gun doesn't exactly drag someone out the door to go murder someone. Said person has to pick it up and use as it is a tool. Lacking a gun they'll resort to other means. After all, ask the UK about its 'knife' problem. It's very much like the 'gun' problem here in the US.

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