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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfee Darkfang View Post
    I don't troll back, and i do report them. how do you think pax lost his UTube? Back when i was in Sl i used to abuse report griefers constantly. I flag trolls left and right on UTube.

    First off, you false DMCA banned me.

    Second, yes, you do try to troll. I stress try because, for all your effort, you just suck at it. You can't remember, you say? This ring a bell?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdnA_...e=channel_page

    You tried to spread my dox when you thought you had them. You don't call that trolling? Actually, nevermind, I don't think you do. I think you actually just called that very tactic e-terrorism.

    And I had forgotten this when I posted earlier, but in this video you outright say you and Kathera were working together in "underground stuff". You know, like FurryOps. It looks like I was premature in saying you were probably innocent in the downward spiral that brought down that forum; You clearly were in on it from the get go.
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    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfee Darkfang View Post
    Also their sense of humor is stupid


    You're one to talk.
    Quote Originally Posted by A Sad Little Man
    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    I find this entire 'anti-troll' thing hilarious.

    The furry fandom is, by in large, reguard as a pack of raving idiots and is derided by others because of this. Why because it acts like a pack of raving idiots. Want to 'save the fandom'?

    1) Stop being a stupid fuck.
    2) When your friends are being stupid fucks, try to encourage them to not be stupid fucks.
    3) No, really, stop being a stupid fuck.

    No one would care fuck one about the furry fandom if the furfags didn't explode in rage like a hyperactive ten year old child when someone told them that their inside put pikachu x ash vore wallpaper was disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ieatcrackersandjumpcliffs View Post
    You committed a crime(filing a false DMCA) and got him banned.
    Let me explain to you what a DMCA is. A DMCA is a report saying that my content was used against my authority. If a video contains copyrighted content that i own, then it is not a false DMCA. Since i own the copyright on the cartoon character "Wolfee Darkfang" and that character was used in the videos i DMCAd, they are oficial DMCAs. The only time it is false is if i didn't own the character. Which i do...

    "This is RL terrorism"
    So if bombing a club in a virtual world is not terrorism, does that mean bombing a club in the real world isn't either? The government would say otherwise. The whole point of adding e- before words is to express that it is the internet equal to whatever. Nothing dies on the internet sure i know that...

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    You don't own a copyright. Where are your copyright papers, hm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfee Darkfang View Post
    So if bombing a club in a virtual world is not terrorism, does that mean bombing a club in the real world isn't either? The government would say otherwise.
    Yes but if real life was like online, the government wouldn't be so upset? Why? Cause they'd be like "Oh, hey, it's cool, we'll just presse CTRL+Z and fix it up in half a second. "

    The reprocutions of 'bombing' an establishment in SL are insignifigant and at worst an inconvienance. In real life you don't go "Oh man, this sucks, a raid. Well, we'll come back when the suicide bombers get banned. :O"

    Quote Originally Posted by SHENZEBO View Post
    You don't own a copyright. Where are your copyright papers, hm?
    Uhh yeah, you don't need to file any papers for a copyright. Any material that you create is immediately copyrighted to you. Thank you furry fandom, even when argueing with the stupid fucks, those guys have to be stupid fucks too. Why can't you learn furry fandom? WHY CAN'T YOU LEARN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyAshes View Post
    Uhh yeah, you don't need to file any papers for a copyright. Any material that you create is immediately copyrighted to you. Thank you furry fandom, even when argueing with the stupid fucks, those guys have to be stupid fucks too. Why can't you learn furry fandom? WHY CAN'T YOU LEARN?
    Dictionary says "exclusive legal right".

    I'm sure there is another purple wolf named Wolfee or Darkfang. Somewhere.

    Edit: Not saying I'm right, just wondering the legalities of a purple wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHENZEBO View Post
    Dictionary says "exclusive legal right".

    I'm sure there is another purple wolf named Wolfee or Darkfang. Somewhere.

    Edit: Not saying I'm right, just wondering the legalities of a purple wolf.
    Character titles would be trademarks, not copyright.

    However the specific art you create of a character is copyrighted to you. You created the work, it's your copyright. However using someone elses freely available art is arguable under fair use. It's improtant to note that YouTube largely blindly obeys DMCA complaints because they face legal issues if they don't follow them but it's the complainers legal issue if the claim is false. By blindly obeying Youtube is absolved of most legal involvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyAshes View Post
    Character titles would be trademarks, not copyright.

    However the specific art you create of a character is copyrighted to you. You created the work, it's your copyright. However using someone elses freely available art is arguable under fair use. It's improtant to note that YouTube largely blindly obeys DMCA complaints because they face legal issues if they don't follow them but it's the complainers legal issue if the claim is false. By blindly obeying Youtube is absolved of most legal involvement.
    Thanks for the enlightenment.

    Youtube allows a lot of parodies though, of stuff like Star Wars and LoTR. Seems they're not thinking this through. -_-

    Edit: Sorry for jumping without thinking Wolfee. +1 for you.
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    This is often because the property owners of those series have what's called a 'sense of humor' and don't file DMCA complaints.

    However Darkfang here most likely abused the DMCA to get his way. A great deal many people actually abuse the DMCA to get what they want on the internet because the large companies that fear other large companies would rather delete what is fair use then not delete what is ligitimate copyright infringement.

    If you wanted to be a dick you could get all SORTS of stuff removed from websites and such by making DMCA complaints and it'd probably be some time untill it bit you in the ass. Ya know, cause eventually you'll piss off a guy that actually has a REAL laywer and some REAL money and isn't going to take shit from some pissant.

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    The Wolfee material I used in past videos were clips of what he has used in other videos. Under YouTube ToS, that qualifies as Fair Use.
    http://www.youtube.com/t/terms?gl=GB&hl=en-GB
    10.1 When you upload or post a User Submission to YouTube, you grant:

    1. to YouTube, a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable licence (with right to sub-licence) to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform that User Submission in connection with the provision of the Services and otherwise in connection with the provision of the Website and YouTube's business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels;
    2. to each user of the Website, a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, licence to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions to the extent permitted by the functionality of the Website and under these Terms.
    Meaning the videos were legit. Meaning you filed a false DMCA.
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    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    Oh now that complicates things.

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    It really doesn't. In fact it seems to simplify everything. I was legally allowed to use his videos, and he filed false, more than likely knowingly so, DMCA claims to have the videos pulled. A very close friend of his did the exact same thing to have videos pulled, I have little doubt it's where he got the idea to begin with.
    Quote Originally Posted by A Sad Little Man
    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    I meant it's complicating to me as to why someone would pull that if they knew the TOS.

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    Even simpler; he doesn't know the ToS. He's never known them. He just assumes "You're trolling, that's harassment/terrorism, that's against ToS!!!" and does what he can to try to have me banned.

    When YouTube doesn't agree my videos constitute such harassment/terrorism, he just happens to notice some "copyright infringement".
    Quote Originally Posted by A Sad Little Man
    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    Ah. Excuse my slowness, I'm crashing on energy drinks.

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    Not a problem, in fact I actually prefer to go over things thoroughly.
    Quote Originally Posted by A Sad Little Man
    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    Regardless of copyrights, it's not fair to be banned without explaining your side, unless you posted goatse or something.

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    It's quite a bitch to try to gt ahold of YouTube after a ban has been handed down. Closest thing I got was an email saying to counter the DMCA, but that my account, for whatever reason, wouldn't be reinstated.

    Several emails have been sent out reporting him for constant DMCA abuse though, so we're waiting on those to be responded to.
    Quote Originally Posted by A Sad Little Man
    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    Ok, that's settled; Darkfang is breaking the law and filing false DMCA claims. That much has been established. Let's now focus on the much, much more interesting topic...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfee Darkfang View Post
    "This is RL terrorism"
    So if bombing a club in a virtual world is not terrorism, does that mean bombing a club in the real world isn't either? The government would say otherwise. The whole point of adding e- before words is to express that it is the internet equal to whatever.


    Wow.
    Quote Originally Posted by A Sad Little Man
    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    Quote Originally Posted by paxil rose View Post
    Wow.
    You know you might be spending too much time on SecondLife if... :V

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    We have reason to believe he invests more time in SecondLife than he ever thinks to in his first life.
    Quote Originally Posted by A Sad Little Man
    Yea. FAF is total shit. A lot of people are afraid to use it because of all the trolling whining and hating that goes on. They need better moderators. I could run the whole place myself and be 10 times better at it. And yes that is a dare to them. -Herpy Derpfang

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    I admit to having a SL, but drat. It's just a 3D chat.

    Edit: I mean it's like getting upset because someone on MSN spammed penis. Block them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHENZEBO View Post
    I admit to having a SL, but drat. It's just a 3D chat.

    Edit: I mean it's like getting upset because someone on MSN spammed penis. Block them.
    DUDE! That's totally the same as someone putting real penises into your mail box infront of your house! TERRORISM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshleyAshes View Post
    DUDE! That's totally the same as someone putting real penises into your mail box infront of your house! TERRORISM!
    DILDO TERRORISM

    But yeah. Glorified 3D chat =/= real world. Silly furries, real life is for logical people!

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