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5/17 Site Attack

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xTwilightStarx

A polished turd.
You'd think furry-hating hackers would invest their skills in destroying legitimately harmful websites, like those harboring pedophiles.
Sure the furry fandom and it's art can be creepy, but no real animals OR people are harmed in the making of it.
 

supersonicbros23

Appearance: unoriginal; Personality: out to lunch
:rolleyes: I suppose that hypothetical "Keyboard" army thats going to be a joke in my next film would do some good if it were actually real. I say that with tongue in cheek, though deep down I have a growing hatred building up for an individual I don't even know. Day after my birthday, too. :(
 

BinaryHedgehog

Gaming Bunbun
You make that sound so easy. "Well, they should just counter them!" It's hard to counter an attack you don't know. How do you think anti-virus software works? It can only stop viruses that are already in its database.
That's not entirely true. It's possible to raise flags when certain things are done so they can be warned about. Anti-viruses look out of suspicious parts of code in order to stop "zero-day" attacks and get samples to be analyzed.
 

AliothFox

That High-Flyin' Foxy
I guess IMVU can't spend any of their millions of dollars in revenue towards FA, which they own, if that's truly the case.
Big difference between "can't" and "won't." I'm not going to speculate on IMVU's business decisions because I'm not party to them, but where I work, we have to have solid data to justify our budget line items, because whether we have the money or not, we don't want to spend money on something we're not sure is necessary. When IMVU first bought the site, there were a lot of security upgrades. "Spend hours in labor costs switching over to a totally new database just in case someone ever gets their hands on the source code that isn't even part of our purview" probably wasn't high on their priority list.
 

deragorka

Dragon.rar
I think the furry fandom is worse when it comes to picking fights with each other and playing the vengeance game. Someone was probably butthurt at someone else here or one of the admins and decided to kill the site for gits and shiggles. Or maybe it was just because they were bored enough and "hey, FA is big. Let's kill it!"
 

AliothFox

That High-Flyin' Foxy
That's not entirely true. It's possible to raise flags when certain things are done so they can be warned about. Anti-viruses look out of suspicious parts of code in order to stop "zero-day" attacks and get samples to be analyzed.

It was a simplification, of course. But the point is that even those type of defenses have to have some sort of model or pattern to go on. Those "warning flags" aren't just dreamed up; they come from patterns of similar viruses and past attacks.
 

Pied

New Member
You'd think furry-hating hackers would invest their skills in destroying legitimately harmful websites, like those harboring pedophiles.
Sure the furry fandom and it's art can be creepy, but no real animals OR people are harmed in the making of it.
When a hacker has source code, its easy af.
 

nrr

Member
This is kind of like a really bad game of SimCity 2000 where you've just discovered that your burn rate is too high, so you cut all funding on transportation infrastructure only to watch it completely implode.

I said what I'm really going to say all the way back in 2006. It's disheartening to see that what was true then is still true now.
 
It could be people who hate furries, or just people who hate FA and see satisfaction in wanting to take it down.
They're not really considering how they're hurting artist's livelihoods. Yes, it's possible to have an audience off of the biggest furry site there is, but it's very hard. Destroying the biggest furry site there is will only force them to have to start over and potentially endanger them with lack of work.
 
I had commission information would that be deleted and also how would you know if your account got deleted
You'll know once the site goes back up and you can check. Commission information may have been deleted, but there is a chance they will restore it along with accounts.
 

zilchfox

New Member
Big difference between "can't" and "won't." I'm not going to speculate on IMVU's business decisions because I'm not party to them, but where I work, we have to have solid data to justify our budget line items, because whether we have the money or not, we don't want to spend money on something we're not sure is necessary. When IMVU first bought the site, there were a lot of security upgrades. "Spend hours in labor costs switching over to a totally new database just in case someone ever gets their hands on the source code that isn't even part of our purview" probably wasn't high on their priority list.
Well, if that's true, I think their priorities are just about to change quite drastically on such a view. Hopefully.
 

KaiyaShadowBlaze

New Member
Hopefully mine was not deleted. I just made mine the other day. If it did, I'll be really mad. Though I'm not sure why someone would target FA like that and do this. Its very wrong and I hope they know how many people this person upsets and angers by doing this. Because if they don't, then their actions will be coming back to take revenge on them, greatly.
 

supersonicbros23

Appearance: unoriginal; Personality: out to lunch
Just curious though, we got any "scouts" browsing any known 'rival' sites/forums looking for clues? After all: loose lips sink ships; Someones bound to have spilled the beans. If I knew any I'd gladly scavenge for them. Anything to help.
 

KaiyaShadowBlaze

New Member
Just curious though, we got any "scouts" browsing any known 'rival' sites/forums looking for clues? After all: loose lips sink ships; Someones bound to have spilled the beans. If I knew any I'd gladly scavenge for them. Anything to help.
I would do the same for this site. I loved it since the day I found it and and upsets me greatly someone would do this. I would be very willing to help out in any way I can to keep this from happening again on this site.
 

Bourbon.

Member
It could be people who hate furries, or just people who hate FA and see satisfaction in wanting to take it down.
They're not really considering how they're hurting artist's livelihoods. Yes, it's possible to have an audience off of the biggest furry site there is, but it's very hard. Destroying the biggest furry site there is will only force them to have to start over and potentially endanger them with lack of work.
To be honest, furry's worst enemies are itself. I see more hate and vitriol from within the fandom towards each other and FA than from without. It could just as easily have been someone who's a part of the fandom who finally wanted to "shut FA down for good" that did this.
 

anz100

Alex
You'd think furry-hating hackers would invest their skills in destroying legitimately harmful websites, like those harboring pedophiles.
Sure the furry fandom and it's art can be creepy, but no real animals OR people are harmed in the making of it.
Given that the USB drives were distributed at BLFC, my guess it it's a furry, not a furry hater who did this.
 

AliothFox

That High-Flyin' Foxy
Well, if that's true, I think their priorities are just about to change quite drastically on such a view. Hopefully.

And that would make sense. Hindsight is always 20/20. But you don't pour money into a site to fight threats that you don't even know about. When IMVU bought the site, one of the main threats was DDoS attacks - so FA was upgraded with CloudFlare protections. This has honestly followed the trend that one would expect for a site the size of FA.

Look, I make a pretty decent portion of my living off of FA. I'm an artist, and it's not just a side job for me. So believe me - I want this site up just as much as anyone else, particularly considering that my next meal sometimes depends on it. But wringing my hands over it isn't gonna make it come up any faster. Best for all of us to keep cool heads about it and just let the IT folks do that voodoo that they do. FA's been through a lot worse than this in the past and come through it just fine. :)
 
Just curious though, we got any "scouts" browsing any known 'rival' sites/forums looking for clues? After all: loose lips sink ships; Someones bound to have spilled the beans. If I knew any I'd gladly scavenge for them. Anything to help.

The people who distributed this were apparently at BLFC, maybe there's a chance that that some of the people who had received the USB drives might have told someone. It's likely most if not all of em are gonna keep their mouths shut or only talk about it in private. You never know, though, maybe there'll be that one person who says something.
 
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