5/17 Site Attack

[LyrrenClock]

This is golden. I have to keep coming back every few hours to see how much worse its gotten!

So far its gone from
- random jerk who wants to stir up drama
- random jerk who hates furries
- Bored hacker who just wants to watch the world burn
then suddenly it jumps to religious extremists and an entire convention of hackers who aren't even at the same convention!

I wonder when someone is gonna spin the government conspiracy theories as something more than just for the lulz XD

between this and
"Are all my files gone??"
"no your files are fine."
"OMG I HAVE TO REUPLOAD ALL MY FILES I JUST KNOW IT"
"I just said your files are fine...."
"Did someone say files? All our notes are deleted! OMG life is over!"
"Guys! can you not..."
"Did you all hear? the whole site was deleted and now Islam is trying to kill us all!"
"..... for the love of....."

I totaly see the last half of this post becoming a thing really if it goes on for another day really and honestly I'd just sit here laughing my fluffy rear off XD

 

[Gem-Wolf]

Me thinks you doth protest too much.
I've only seen a handful of people complaining. This thread has primarily been speculation and discussions on site security.

lol protest too much? its de first time I have commented on this thread. Yes you are right it has been good discussion recently i was however referring to those who were complaining so this only applies to a few.

Doesn't really pertain to the situation, as fA is a website. It's also a major source of income for some people as well as a social platform, it doesn't really matter if it's free or not. The site has had multiple instances of loopholes in the code security and it's high time something is done to FILL those loopholes. People aren't complaining so much that it's down, it's more a matter of the fact that it's down due to attacks like this so often.

Again true, but I can't stand people complaining over something that is provided free.

Honestly, that's a crappy excuse for being a shit service. "Free" does not mean certain quality standards should not be met. Websites go down. That's life. But something of this magnitude is catastrophic. And those complaining probably have their livelihoods built around their art commissions here. Try living a week without pay only to see your paycheck either $0 or half of what it should be.

Just means you shouldn't rely on it 100% if its your income.

This isn't a simply factor of a site being down. With the source code leaked, there could be further ramifications. I have justifiable concerns about site security.

Thats fine to have concerns just hate seeing people crying over this, it will get fixed soon enough

 

[Bourbon.]

Just means you shouldn't rely on it 100% if its your income.

That's a haphazard argument. FA is central to the furry fandom, so it is absolutely integral to people who make their business off furry art.

 

[SGRedAlert]

I honestly doubt you'd say the same about other larger sites built around users selling things (such as etsy or ebay). People aren't upset because they can't access notes, they are upset because they can't continue to conduct business so long as FA remains offline.

Etsy and Ebay are primarily business websites - FA is not. People just so happen to have created a little art market on FA - I use 'little' loosely. The prime directive of FA was and still is not a business website - they're incomparable. But again, if you're a responsible human being, you'll still back up information, because shit happens, and you don't want that shit to extend to places that are otherwise completely preventable.

 

[AliothFox]

That's a haphazard argument. FA is central to the furry fandom, so it is absolutely integral to people who make their business off furry art.

Well, to be fair, calling it "central" to the furry fandom may be a bit of a stretch, but it's certainly a HUGE part of the community.

 

[Bourbon.]

Etsy and Ebay are primarily business websites - FA is not. People just so happen to have created a little art market on FA - I use 'little' loosely. The prime directive of FA was and still is not a business website - they're incomparable. But again, if you're a responsible human being, you'll still back up information, because shit happens, and you don't want that shit to extend to places that are otherwise completely preventable.

While it's true that FA is not primarily a business site, business is a huge aspect of it. Nearly everyone on FA either buys or sells art.

You keep bringing up backing up information, but that isn't relevant for a lot of people who need to be able to sell art to pay their bills. People are upset that they can't conduct new business as long as FA is offline. A lot of people are going to be out of money for bills or groceries right now.

 

[SilverDragarian]

This is golden. I have to keep coming back every few hours to see how much worse its gotten!

So far its gone from
- random jerk who wants to stir up drama
- random jerk who hates furries
- Bored hacker who just wants to watch the world burn
then suddenly it jumps to religious extremists and an entire convention of hackers who aren't even at the same convention!

I wonder when someone is gonna spin the government conspiracy theories as something more than just for the lulz XD

between this and
"Are all my files gone??"
"no your files are fine."
"OMG I HAVE TO REUPLOAD ALL MY FILES I JUST KNOW IT"
"I just said your files are fine...."
"Did someone say files? All our notes are deleted! OMG life is over!"
"Guys! can you not..."
"Did you all hear? the whole site was deleted and now Islam is trying to kill us all!"
"..... for the love of....."

I just love this lol and yes i just made this account to make this comment

 

[SGRedAlert]

Honestly, that's a crappy excuse for being a shit service. "Free" does not mean certain quality standards should not be met. Websites go down. That's life. But something of this magnitude is catastrophic. And those complaining probably have their livelihoods built around their art commissions here. Try living a week without pay only to see your paycheck either $0 or half of what it should be.

I'll agree with you there. It's not necessarily just losing information, but now businesspeople are completely unable to continue conducting business until FA is back up and running. Which fucking sucks, and I absolutely feel sorry for them in which case - they're going to be out a week's pay. I'm betting there will be a flood of "Help, Can't Pay Bills" campaigns the minute FA is back online.

 

[Rythas]

I think it's funny how quickly this Thread turned into an argument. 29 pages of worry found here, 29 pages of worry..

 

[Barking-In-the-Dark]

I hope it gets fixed soon, the person who did this gets caught, and we can all be happy again and not arguing with each other. T_T
My friend and I were talking and he mentioned that this might help my FA's security better. Either way this will make FA stronger.

 

[Bourbon.]

Well, to be fair, calling it "central" to the furry fandom may be a bit of a stretch, but it's certainly a HUGE part of the community.

I consider it central as it's the junction where everyone meets. There is no larger gathering of furries, either IRL or on the internet than on FA. It acts as a hub to the fandom.

 

[SGRedAlert]

While it's true that FA is not primarily a business site, business is a huge aspect of it. Nearly everyone on FA either buys or sells art.

You keep bringing up backing up information, but that isn't relevant for a lot of people who need to be able to sell art to pay their bills. People are upset that they can't conduct new business as long as FA is offline. A lot of people are going to be out of money for bills or groceries right now.

Yes, but it's an aspect otherwise unrelated to the administrators, is my point. And yes, I keep bringing up information because that's what I was talking about when you first responded. It's kind of the subject matter for this entire conversation we've been having.
However, yeah, like in my response to Deragorka;
"I'll agree with you there. It's not necessarily just losing information, but now businesspeople are completely unable to continue conducting business until FA is back up and running. Which fucking sucks, and I absolutely feel sorry for them in which case - they're going to be out a week's pay. I'm betting there will be a flood of "Help, Can't Pay Bills" campaigns the minute FA is back online."

 

[Horsefur]

This thread went from civil and great source of info to flame war and drama reaaaaal quick

 

[Psylantwolf]

"I consider it central as it's the junction where everyone meets." -well, *coughs* not to name any, but- there are other furry websites out there that do exactly what FA does, and just don't have the huge user pool yet. When a "central junction" goes down, it's not like we can't move that junction.

...I wonder if I'll get banned for this post :3

 

[AliothFox]

I consider it central as it's the junction where everyone meets. There is no larger gathering of furries, either IRL or on the internet than on FA. It acts as a hub to the fandom.

I once thought that. Then I found Twitter. And I guarantee you there are more furries on Twitter than there are on FA. I sell a lot of artwork via Twitter, and if I had a nickel for every time I've heard, "Oh, I don't have an FA," I would be a very wealthy fox. Now, in response to your point, I *do* still use FA as my "hub" since it's impractical to set up a commission page and things like that over Twitter. But believe me, as much as I want it to succeed, and as important as I agree that it is to the fandom, FA is not indispensable.

 

[Bourbon.]

Yes, but it's an aspect otherwise unrelated to the administrators, is my point. And yes, I keep bringing up information because that's what I was talking about when you first responded. It's kind of the subject matter for this entire conversation we've been having.
However, yeah, like in my response to Deragorka;
"I'll agree with you there. It's not necessarily just losing information, but now businesspeople are completely unable to continue conducting business until FA is back up and running. Which fucking sucks, and I absolutely feel sorry for them in which case - they're going to be out a week's pay. I'm betting there will be a flood of "Help, Can't Pay Bills" campaigns the minute FA is back online."

Well the entire thing is unrelated to the admins. I doubt they are the ones who leaked the information. The most they can be held culpable for at this point is not keeping the site's coding up to date and letting it rot and using duct tape to fix giant chasms.

 

[Bourbon.]

"I consider it central as it's the junction where everyone meets." -well, *coughs* not to name any, but- there are other furry websites out there that do exactly what FA does, and just don't have the huge user pool yet. When a "central junction" goes down, it's not like we can't move that junction.

...I wonder if I'll get banned for this post :3

I've already made comments on why the other furry sites aren't viable alternatives.

 

[SGRedAlert]

This thread went from civil and great source of info to flame war and drama reaaaaal quick

A flame war and drama is a bit of a stretch. I would say discussions - nobody is going around stoking fires by throwing racial and homophobic slurs, nor are people (necessarily) filling the thread with useless, unoriginal memes. (Hopefully I didn't just jinx it.)

 

[Barking-In-the-Dark]

This thread went from civil and great source of info to flame war and drama reaaaaal quick

I know. T_T

A flame war and drama is a bit of a stretch. I would say discussions - nobody is going around stoking fires by throwing racial and homophobic slurs, nor are people (necessarily) filling the thread with useless, unoriginal memes. (Hopefully I didn't just jinx it.)

Knock on wood?

 

[AliothFox]

What you said:

...I wonder if I'll get banned for this post :3

What I heard:

...I really hope I get banned for this post so that I can go onto social media and talk about how awful FA is because I got banned for speaking The Truth™ :3

Again, nothing new here. This is pretty predictable, and more likely the longer this thread goes on, unfortunately.

 

[Shotalicious]

A flame war and drama is a bit of a stretch. I would say discussions - nobody is going around stoking fires by throwing racial and homophobic slurs, nor are people (necessarily) filling the thread with useless, unoriginal memes. (Hopefully I didn't just jinx it.)

 

[SGRedAlert]

"I consider it central as it's the junction where everyone meets." -well, *coughs* not to name any, but- there are other furry websites out there that do exactly what FA does, and just don't have the huge user pool yet. When a "central junction" goes down, it's not like we can't move that junction.

...I wonder if I'll get banned for this post :3

Showing doubt in the admins isn't going to get you banned, but throwing a direct insult by snidely implying they'd get butthurt over a single furry's opinion of them maybe would. If they would rise to the bait, which I sincerely doubt, because they literally have much, much bigger fish to fry.
Plus, I sincerely doubt this is going to shunt the hub of the fandom to Twitter or Weasyl or other somesuch website. Furries are nothing like a herd of cattle. You could beat them with cow prods all day and they won't move an inch. This will all blow over within a month (except for all the fucked-over businesspeople who are losing out on like a week's pay.)

 

[Psylantwolf]

I've already made comments on why the other furry sites aren't viable alternatives.

...is it literally just because they do not have as large a user pool? ...again, not going to post names for fear it's against the rules or something, but if EVERYONE ON FA moved to w*****, where you can post art, post comments, send notes, all the same functionality, what would be the difference? People could still watch artists, get commissions, search for fappable material (probably still FAs primary use for most furs). ...what am I missing?

 

[AliothFox]

...what am I missing?

Literally almost everything that has been said. -.-

 

[Shotalicious]

...is it literally just because they do not have as large a user pool? ...again, not going to post names for fear it's against the rules or something, but if EVERYONE ON FA moved to w*****, where you can post art, post comments, send notes, all the same functionality, what would be the difference? People could still watch artists, get commissions, search for fappable material (probably still FAs primary use for most furs). ...what am I missing?

Everyone is attached to FA, made a home on it pretty much. Once you get comfortable with one site, you wouldnt just want to leave it because an attack happened, which could be fixed.