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    You add profile IDs. You change the front page up and tweak with notes.

    But yet you can't fix something as simple as the commission info yet?

    It's been how long now, at least a year I am sure of it. I'd even fix it FOR you, as it is badly needed, except I know you won't accept any help from me.

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    Wait, what was changed about the front page and notes?
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    If an FA developer responds to this ... Arcturus, you better be prepared to eat those words.

    Increasing the # of things shown on the Mainpage, for example, was a trivial change; all they had to do was change the number of items queried from the database. The rest of the HTML output took care of itself.

    The Commissions Info page was taken out due to exploitable security flaws. Failure to properly escape HTML entities is a big one, and I've heard from an FA developer that this is nowhere as easy to fix as it looks at a glance. There's some particular configuration along FA's CGI server that throws a wrench in it, exactly what I don't know, but it was described as "like magic quotes, but worse".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcturus View Post
    You add profile IDs. You change the front page up and tweak with notes.

    But yet you can't fix something as simple as the commission info yet?

    It's been how long now, at least a year I am sure of it. I'd even fix it FOR you, as it is badly needed, except I know you won't accept any help from me.
    And why won't they let you help?

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    @Ilayas: I don't think they want "outside" help.

    Their loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratadrake View Post
    If an FA developer responds to this ... Arcturus, you better be prepared to eat those words.

    Increasing the # of things shown on the Mainpage, for example, was a trivial change; all they had to do was change the number of items queried from the database. The rest of the HTML output took care of itself.

    The Commissions Info page was taken out due to exploitable security flaws. Failure to properly escape HTML entities is a big one, and I've heard from an FA developer that this is nowhere as easy to fix as it looks at a glance. There's some particular configuration along FA's CGI server that throws a wrench in it, exactly what I don't know, but it was described as "like magic quotes, but worse".

    I doubt I'll have to. It's a quick fix, provided you're competent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glaice View Post
    @Ilayas: I don't think they want "outside" help.

    Their loss.
    If they'd let anyone access the site's "source files", They would basically be inviting anyone to hack into the servers, or exploit flaws in the code...
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    so how's Ferrox coming along

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    DAMN SLACKERS D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glaice View Post
    @Ilayas: I don't think they want "outside" help.

    Their loss.
    If this is the same Arcturus I'm assuming it is, "outside" isn't quite the right word for it. She seems harmless enough, but considering that the last ex staff member who got ahold of their code hacked it, I can why they'd be wary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firehazard View Post
    If this is the same Arcturus I'm assuming it is, "outside" isn't quite the right word for it. She seems harmless enough, but considering that the last ex staff member who got ahold of their code hacked it, I can why they'd be wary...
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    @Arcturus: not having the Commission section isn't that big of a panty-knotter. Make a damn journal with your info there and attach it to your user info. SIMPLE.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilayas View Post
    And why won't they let you help?
    I would assume it's because letting anyone outside the IT staff or whatever get ahold of the site code runs a SERIOUS risk of getting fucked sideways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcturus View Post
    It's a quick fix, provided you're competent.
    Ever hear of the one about adding more people to a software project...?

    As for whether it's a quick fix, let me re-iterate: You Don't Know That.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeplusfork View Post
    @Arcturus: not having the Commission section isn't that big of a panty-knotter. Make a damn journal with your info there and attach it to your user info. SIMPLE.
    I agree. Back when the commission info page was active, I didn't even think people looked at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toraneko View Post
    I agree. Back when the commission info page was active, I didn't even think people looked at it.
    I never remembered to update mine, because it was a horrible example of "out of sight, out of mind." It's so much easier to keep it in my journal footer.
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    Reason why commission info page isn't out yet is because I'm recoding it from scratch, assimilating all the ideas and feedback I've been given and found myself. It's not going to be the same page minus the exploits.

    To all people complaining that I should be doing something else with my time - don't compare changing a number from 4 to 8, or copy pasting an existing code to a complete rewrite of a feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yak View Post
    To all people complaining that I should be doing something else with my time - don't compare changing a number from 4 to 8, or copy pasting an existing code to a complete rewrite of a feature.
    Meh, most of those people have absolutely no idea what kind of work goes into the changes and re-writes you make. I'm not saying I'm an expert here, but I do have an idea of the work involved.

    Also, a lot of people seem to forget Yak isn't paid for his work here...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilayas View Post
    And why won't they let you help?
    The short answer is: bad blood.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glaice View Post
    @Ilayas: I don't think they want "outside" help.
    That is incorrect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcturus View Post
    I doubt I'll have to. It's a quick fix, provided you're competent.
    Trouble is, and you know this yourself, most people are anything but competant. Besides, it's being rewritten from scratch as Yak's stated.

    Quote Originally Posted by CerbrusNL View Post
    Also, a lot of people seem to forget Yak isn't paid for his work here...
    A lot of people seem to forget that no one here is paid for their work and contributions (with the obvious exception of the artists), but then again, a lot of people seem to have entitlement issues and can be quite ungreatful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carenath View Post
    A lot of people seem to forget that no one here is paid for their work and contributions (with the obvious exception of the artists), but then again, a lot of people seem to have entitlement issues and can be quite ungreatful.
    Im just glad that so many put there free time to keep FA and FAF going

    Thanks to all of you for your hard work. Looking foward to seeing the commission info fixed. Should be worth the wait when it made to be more enjoyable for all its members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carenath View Post
    A lot of people seem to forget that no one here is paid for their work and contributions (with the obvious exception of the artists), but then again, a lot of people seem to have entitlement issues and can be quite ungreatful.
    Exactly... I know from experience what it's like Working in a similar situation, where non-staff members keep demanding you to work harder, faster, when it's just something you do in your spare time. Also, better net let them know you also have other things you like to do, like playing a game every now and then, because then you're not doing your 'job'!
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    The Fanart Central domain I work at (admin + developer, ftw), let's see. Our bug tracker is up to 170 by now, perhaps half of them are still unresolved (not all of them are actually bugs though, some are just feature requests) and I still have nearly 20 bugs assigned personally to me.

    And that's not counting my paying 40-hour /week job. Haven't been able to touch any of them this week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratadrake View Post
    The Fanart Central domain I work at (admin + developer, ftw), let's see. Our bug tracker is up to 170 by now, perhaps half of them are still unresolved (not all of them are actually bugs though, some are just feature requests) and I still have nearly 20 bugs assigned personally to me.

    And that's not counting my paying 40-hour /week job. Haven't been able to touch any of them this week
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    Reason why commission info page isn't out yet is because I'm recoding it from scratch, assimilating all the ideas and feedback I've been given and found myself. It's not going to be the same page minus the exploits.

    To all people complaining that I should be doing something else with my time - don't compare changing a number from 4 to 8, or copy pasting an existing code to a complete rewrite of a feature.
    For what it's worth, KUDOS. That's intense. Rewriting? Holy crap. I'm kinda excited about seeing the new one now - but oh god, no rush, man.

    Ever notice that in a lot of things, not just this, the people bitching about something have actually no idea what's involved to fix said something? :/

    Quote Originally Posted by Carenath View Post
    A lot of people seem to forget that no one here is paid for their work and contributions (with the obvious exception of the artists), but then again, a lot of people seem to have entitlement issues and can be quite ungreatful.
    That sucks. Paid or not, no one should treat you like their personal coder/mod/servant. I for one am grateful there's a FurAffinity at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyeplusfork View Post
    Ever notice that in a lot of things, not just this, the people bitching about something have actually no idea what's involved to fix said something? :/
    Except for the ones who are like, you know... computer programmers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky View Post
    Except for the ones who are like, you know... computer programmers
    And he STILL whined about it taking so long. Seems he never thought to find out himself what was up properly instead of bitching and moaning about it. Guess it never occurred to him that they could start recoding from scratch, which I understand happens quite a bit with programming in general.
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