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I think I speak for almost everyone here when I say I wish that time and effort could be bought with money. I would personally donate to the "Help Us Put This Asshole In Jail Fund" without a moment's hesitation, and I suspect a lot of others would too at this point.
And this isn't because I'm pissed off at getting my picture taken down. Hell, I'm glad I have an excuse to not have it up anymore. It's just that we're all sick of seeing him get away with stupid shit like this. Especially abusing the DMCA, which he's far from the first person to do and get away with.
Furries - we're all about effing the ineffable.
So what's this I heard about 'Neer's twitter saying Allan filed ANOTHER DMCA? I thought all his stuff was taken down, did someone not get the memo?
"In order to pre-emptively avoid frivolous invocations of the Digital Millenium Copyright Act against FurAffinity for non-infringing material with coincidental resemblance to copyrighted intellectual property, and to protect the claimant from reciprocal litigation for filing false and misleading DMCA claims, and to protect the claimant from liability for alleged purchases and possession of pornographic material, we have chosen to voluntarily remove the cited, non-infringing material from our site for the time being."
That would make the Best Apology Ever.
But if he keeps up, the "bring a lawyer, see you in court" argument needs to be given more consideration.
On a side note I'm actually a slight bit curious what this character of his looks like in the first place. Anyone got a URL?
For fuck's sake. -.- Allen, just go to hell,please.
Also: does this mean anyone with art of a black wolf or a black wolf character is now screwed over?
Also: I know Dragoneer is trying to punish Allen/be spiteful to him but he is punishing the artists that spent all that time on those submissions and wanted to keep them up because it was a piece of their work, regardless of the character. I don't like this move for that reason, it screws over too many artists.
Last edited by ShadowEon; 10-30-2010 at 09:07 PM.
You know, I hate everything about myself but I am too lazy to do anything to change that.
A biography/profile of my fursona character ,Kura can be viewed here:
http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=37961
I frankly do not mind saying that anyone who would knowingly post stuff he commissioned from them, after all the drama he's caused, and are proud enough of them to leave them up even after seeing more drama ensue, do not get any sympathy from me over their removal. And I say this knowing that some of those people are artists I otherwise have respect for. For their art if not for their judgment.
Furries - we're all about effing the ineffable.
http://lulz.net/furi/res/1320393.html
*sigh.....*I will sue FA and all the admins.
The guy just doesn't know when to STFU and GTFO.....
I normally don't read Lulz (I've only ever even posted there /once/) but god damn. I can side with some of Lulz (yes, I need to act more mature and professional, and I agree with that 100%) but you expect when Lulz is involved that you crawl into your NBC suit and prepare to be flamed. That Allan went to Lulz of all places for support... down right hilarious. Yes, because if anybody will like Allan and say "yes" to Allan... it's Lulz.
And who is he going to sue? I didn't have a hand in this at all. Not one. You can't sue FA because the users decided drawing bandannas on dogs is fun. People even put bandannas on their dogs to dress 'em up! You can't own bandannas on canines as any sort of trademark.
Also: this guy makes me laugh. "I had to send Dragoneer docs from my lawyer because he was calling me and harassing me in order to get him to stop!" is... what the hell? I'd love to know in what reality THAT supposedly happened. Ahh, I love anonyboards. Anybody can pose as anybody else, say pretty much anything and generally proof is optional.@OP you probably wont make it with a DMCA but if Dragoneer/Preyfar or his fucktoy is on you, you might want to fill a complaint versus Sean Piche instead. Brotip : Don't play their game because they expect you to reply with a DMCA to these kiddy attacks.
Todo: Contact the sheriff or your legal representative, for online harrassment. You need names : ED has it all. I threatened Sean Piche last year with this, he stopped straight to fuck with me, samefagging on Sofurry and IM as soon he received a letter from my lawyer. He somehow managed to get my docs lurking at my PM's, and haviong a Dragoneer calling you on the phone to bring a retarded joke was the trigger for me to fight back.
This guy have no balls, but if you don't attack he'll try to ruin your life. Also, This winter I used to make fun of you into a similar thread, Lupine Assassin threeads everywhere, but that was for the lulz; the real lulz, cause I aint no obsessive faggot like Preyfar; who have fun fucking with people.
Everyone else : You should take an example on Allan : could be you.
Granted, some of their concerns /are/ valid, which is why I'm done with WYS, Furry Drama 2, anything drama. I really do have better things to do with my time, and needs to invest my timer properly. But... oi. I wonder what the lawyer supposedly told me? Or what number I supposed called him from? Or...
Last edited by Dragoneer; 11-06-2010 at 04:28 PM.
Hey everyone, Dragoneer is back!
Too bad it took more Alan drama to bring you back to the forums. A little late though, the 7 page thread directed at you is already closed. Oh well. Nothing like involving yourself in drama just to claim you're done with drama, amirite?
You're an instigator. You want this drama to be over with? Clean your hands of it. Don't encourage people. Don't encourage people through others. Don't tweet about it, don't journal it. Part of this problem comes from you running around going "LOOK WHAT ALLAN DID!!!" every time he does something, which encourages people to harass him.
Hell, this whole problem could have been avoided if you enforced your site's rules which state "Submissions intended to harass, slander or otherwise disrupt usage of the site will not be tolerated. This includes, but is not limited to, content which is racist, bigoted or otherwise offensive towards any particular sexuality, philosophy or religion. Submissions in which a user's character(s) are used without their permission may, in some instances, be viewed as harassment, and will be handled on an individual basis.". The original submissions that started this should have been deleted. You instead let a personal grudge get in the way and let them stay because it's that damn dirty Allan and he deserves it!
The two sides to this drama are both in the wrong for how they're handling this. Very, very wrong.
Last edited by Accountability; 11-06-2010 at 05:52 PM.
OR.
Allan could have not started all this with false DMCA claims. I'm waiting for the moment his ass gets grilled for doing it.
la-de-da.
Now, excuse me for a second if I call zombie bullshit.
I can't actively monitor every single FA submission. Second, Allan *was* e-mailing me regularly with harassment images, and I was removing them. I can repost the e-mails to show you. I was working with the guy. Then, for no reason overnight, he started DMCAing FA over the exact same issues that we had been resolving peacefully and without issue no less than a week or two prior. And he quit e-mailing me altogether, and just took up the DMCA route.
That said, I am done talking about it. I discussed it, and any further issues will be handled privately and without posting, twitter, foruming, FD2ing, anything. I realized I was personally frustrated with the actions I was taking, it's really not resolving anything...
So yeah.
I'm going to go back to how things used to be.
All Allan ever had to do was contact me for their removal. Like the many others I did remove in the past, I would have still worked with him. He chose a strange path, however.
Last edited by Dragoneer; 11-06-2010 at 06:10 PM.
I stand corrected!
Last edited by Accountability; 11-06-2010 at 06:05 PM. Reason: I can't find the delete button. :|
There has to be something in our legal system that looks in to people constantly filing these things. You know, just to check and see if they are valid.
I know actions speak louder than words, and you and those with you art critical of me. That's fine, in fact, good. After speaking to Sciggles and others, I had a wake up call for the most part. It's not easy to see yourself going down a road that's not good, but because of that, I am working on changing. Community first, drama last.
It'll just take time to show that I mean that, and that I am sincere. I'd rather my actions speak for themselves.
There is, and we're signing up to a service that will actively act as a moderator for DMCAs, and /will/ take legal action against people filing false DMCAs. I've always had an "open door" policy for issues like this, and I don't want people feeling like harassment is something the site accepts. However, that said, there still must be room for parody. Nobody is above that, not even myself... and there's more than a few images actively poking against me on the site. It's part of life.
It can be amusing to watch, but ultimately unreliable.
I had to do a double-take, +1 for maturity.
The Cynic in me, screams no, because the Copyright MAFIAA want it that way, no red tape, just a quick letter and most people won't bother to file a response, they'll just quietlycensorremove the material.
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably" -- A. Satie
Last edited by ShadowEon; 11-06-2010 at 08:26 PM.
You know, I hate everything about myself but I am too lazy to do anything to change that.
A biography/profile of my fursona character ,Kura can be viewed here:
http://forums.furaffinity.net/showthread.php?t=37961
Agree. The copyright, if any, exists with the artist who created the art, not the character depicted in the piece. Characters, though they cannot be copyrighted, can be trademarked; Disney's done so with most if not all of the characters in their movies. It's also worth noting that copyright exists simply in the act of creating a work, though proving it in a court will usually be difficult without some kind of registration. Trademarks, however, do NOT automatically exist; they must be registered and to the best of my knowledge, it's not inexpensive to do so.
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