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9/11/08

Iron-Wolf

Member
Oh really? Why? So you could get revenge? So you could go 'Blast those sand niggers' huh? People who joined the army cause of 9/11 for revenge make me SICK. Why? Because we're blaming the WRONG people, we're in the WRONG country, and not to mention BUSH LIED about most of the reasons for us going.

And before you BITCH, my mate is in the army and was in fuckin' Iraq.

Actually to be 100% honest the biggest factor was the amount of money they're paying me, and how they're putting me through college. But all that aside, it isn't for revenge. It helped reasure that my country still needs protection, and even though we have leaders that send us to hell hole countries for no good reason, I gladly go anywhere in the name of the defense of the United States Constitution. Not bitching, but pretell why your boy joined up?
 

Kangamutt

Well-Known Member
The reason today is a sad event for many across the world, is because before it happened, the States were seen as a place of safety for people of any belief, but since this not-so-little haven was attacked, the target being civilians, many feel that there is no place safe anymore. You successfully attack the stronghold, and the rest is at your feet.
 

Midi Bear

11/10/08
This is why I never actually mention it on the day. People always say "It was [insert number] years ago! Just get over it and move the fuck on."
Sorry, but no. It's not going to work like that. It hasn't worked like that for anything. D-day, Hindenburg, the London bombings (both), Jesus' (supposed) crucifiction, Titanic etc. With special attention to D-day and Titanic, if people haven't forgotten about those which were well over 60 and 90 years ago, what the fuck makes you think we're gonna drop the matter of 9/11 any time soon?
 

Skittle

Banned
Banned
Actually to be 100% honest the biggest factor was the amount of money they're paying me, and how they're putting me through college. But all that aside, it isn't for revenge. It helped reasure that my country still needs protection, and even though we have leaders that send us to hell hole countries for no good reason, I gladly go anywhere in the name of the defense of the United States Constitution. Not bitching, but pretell why your boy joined up?
How much they paying you cause my mate is tight on money and stays in the barracks so no house payments or anthing.
The army caught him on a bad day. That simple.
 

ToeClaws

PEBKAC exterminator
Welcome to human mental diversity. For anyone that goes "Boo!" There will always be someone to go "Yay!" And it is unlikely they'll ever agree on the other's point of view.

This thread was intended as a condolence, not as an argument about the significance of how the date is remembered. If folks can't stay on topic, this'll just become one of those epic rant threads. :roll:
 

Iron-Wolf

Member
How much they paying you cause my mate is tight on money and stays in the barracks so no house payments or anthing.
The army caught him on a bad day. That simple.

They're paying me pretty good. Right now I'm making $600 a month for drill pay. But I'm mostly thankful for them paying 100% of my tuition, plus my $900 a semester book stipend, all of this however is pending I maintain a 3.4 GPA and high standings in my ROTC unit.
 

Ty Vulpine

Well-Known Member
I still remember that day vividly. I had woken up, gone to use the bathroom, came back and turned the TV on right as the second plane hit (9:02am). I did have to go to work, but business was so slow, they sent me home early. I just stayed by the TV all day and talked with my brother.
 

Steele

Ganja Idolotrist
Ah, 9/11. I'll never forget that day...I was due to be in court at 9 AM Pacific time. Needless to say, I didn't have court that day.

So I partied in the name of all those who died. The whole shelter had a ganja party that day. It was fun.

*sniff* memories....all aloooooooone in the moooooonliiiiiiight...

Seriously though, it was a tradgedy. But what's done is done, you can't bring 'em back, just remember the positive things that came of it...Like the Patriot act! Everyone loves having their rights stripped away and being sodomized by the government!
 

Takun

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darkdy50

JD the shapeshifter mage
let it be know, that ben laden was dumb ass enuf to hit a hornets nest with a short stick, and stand there.
 

Kangamutt

Well-Known Member
This is why I never actually mention it on the day. People always say "It was [insert number] years ago! Just get over it and move the fuck on."
Sorry, but no. It's not going to work like that. It hasn't worked like that for anything. D-day, Hindenburg, the London bombings (both), Jesus' (supposed) crucifiction, Titanic etc. With special attention to D-day and Titanic, if people haven't forgotten about those which were well over 60 and 90 years ago, what the fuck makes you think we're gonna drop the matter of 9/11 any time soon?

Except FDR didn't hide behind it when he was criticized....IF he was ever criticized.

"FDR, your policies suck!"

"Pearl Harbour!"

"Pearl Harbour? OMG that was soooo sad. *boohoo sniffle*"
 

Takun

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let it be know, that ben laden was dumb ass enuf to hit a hornets nest with a short stick, and stand there.

let it be know, that u was dumb ass enuf to hit a post button with a bad grammar, and stand there.
 

TheGreatCrusader

Avast, Ye Scurvy Dogs!
To be honest the death toll fails to shock me when I see how many civilians have died so far in the 'Iraq war'. I mean, that number is HUGE. I mean sure, 9/11 was a tragedy, but I don't see what makes it a greater tragedy than this.
We thought the death toll was upwards of 40,000 when all of this shit was going down. Imagine the shitstorm if THAT was the case.

That, and stop making wise cracks about it. Coming from someone that lived through it and experienced the horror and the confusion that was on that day, fuck you. Nobody cares and/or wants what useless shit you have to say about it. o it waz 7 yers ago get ova it, dud look at teh deth toll of the iraq war tat is like elevendy billion jillion fuck da usa, do u no how many wars were started ova it? liek it didnt deserve 15,000 wars n shit.

That isn't what this is about, you asses. This is about the greatest tragedy in American history. If you don't like it, then go away. Because I, as well as a few others, do not care.
 

capthavoc123

Master of Disaster
I gladly go anywhere in the name of the defense of the United States Constitution.

Hate to tell you, buddy, but while you've been off in Iraq trying to protect our Constitution, the boys at home have pretty well shot it to hell.

EDIT: Sorry, I see you're just in college ROTC, and haven't been shipped anywhere. But the rest of the comment stands.

darkdy50 said:
let it be know, that ben laden was dumb ass enuf to hit a hornets nest with a short stick, and stand there.

Yeah, he's so dumb that he's eluded US capture despite our searching for him for nearly a decade now.

The dumb asses are the ones who forgot to watch the damn border of Afghanistan for a few thousand militants hightailing it to Pakistan.

Midi Bear said:
With special attention to D-day and Titanic, if people haven't forgotten about those which were well over 60 and 90 years ago, what the fuck makes you think we're gonna drop the matter of 9/11 any time soon?

Quick, without using Google, what date was Pearl Harbor and how many US soldiers, sailors, airmen, and civilians died in the attack?

Chances are, if you're like 90% of Americans, you only know when and the numbers when the History Channel does a special, and couldn't care less the other 364 days of the year. The same goes for everything you mentioned in your post, save of course the Holocaust (and even then, the History Channel has to galvanize a lot of people into giving a shit).

Forgetting about things that cause us extreme pain and anguish is a survival mechanism, and overall is a good thing because it insures we aren't paralyzed by fear and grief twenty-four hours a day. Be honest, how many times in a year do you think about the Holocaust? D-Day? 9/11? If you're like most people, you don't unless the news or something brings it up.

We have to move on, because it was the people who did this who want us to "never forget". There's a difference between remembering past tragedies and spending so much time dwelling on something that we're blinded to other things. If we had learned how to properly deal with the grief and pain of 9/11, we wouldn't be blowing the shit out of Iraq right now and we'd still be on the good side of the rest of the world.
 
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Steele

Ganja Idolotrist
Yeah, he's so dumb that he's eluded US capture despite our searching for him for nearly a decade now.

Actually, a group of mercenaries after the 50 million dollar reward were within 10 minutes of his capture, when the US government stepped in and had our soldiers prevent them from going any farther.

I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but I do believe this was arranged (and if not arranged, then pre-known) in an attempt to get the public to willingly give up many of their fundamental rights in this country (Or, at least, give the government a way to enforce such tracking without much of a public outcry.)

9/11 itself was a horrible thing, and something that we WILL all remember...However the government's handling AFTER the fact does kinda anger me.
 

Iron-Wolf

Member
Hate to tell you, buddy, but while you've been off in Iraq trying to protect our Constitution, the boys at home have pretty well shot it to hell.

EDIT: Sorry, I see you're just in college ROTC, and haven't been shipped anywhere. But the rest of the comment stands.



No dear friend, I have been. I'm an active Sergeant in the PA National Guard. I haven't been in Iraq, but I have been deployed to other countries. I'm 22 and only a sophomore. I've been an enlisted man for 3 years, and only recently had returned to school and figured 'why not get a commission while I'm here?' But otherwise thank you for support, just remember not all college students are fresh out of high school.
 
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Jeeeeeesus.

Let it go. Die off. Whatever.

If I have to listen to this for one more year... no guess it doesn't matter. I'm changing citizenship in a few years and will be living in the UK. I guess I don't really care.

My stance on this, not that anyone cares: Yes, it's fucking sad. Lots of people died. We invaded a country afterwards and people are confused the real reason that we're there for. It's really fucking sad. ...What can your layman do to change it? Should we care? We're getting reemed in the ass here economically and alliance wise. America is now made up of the world's congregation of the biggest assholes, ignorant dumbshits, and douchebags.

We're facing another Depression. That's what I feel is coming. That or we could throw all caution to the wind and believe in Nostradomus and prepare ourselves for our own version of Hitler. lolThirdAnti-Christ. Such a joke.

*sigh* But fuck, it's been seven years. Fuck nevar forgeting. I want people to shut the hell up about it.
 

Azure

100% organic vegan hubbas
Great, now I have to listen to all that fucking crappy tribute music on the radio all day. Get over it America. Yeah, it's sad, yeah people died. But I don't think they'd approve of what you've managed to do IN THEIR NAME. It's like some sort of Allahu Ackbar cry for us. REMEMBER 9/11, lets wiretap people. REMEMBER 9/11, lets let illegals in and not punish them. REMEMBER 9/11, lets raise the capital gains tax. Seriously America, get a fucking grip. I still love you, but sometimes, I wonder why.

Stealth Edit- Protip, most of the Iraqi civilians? Killed by Terrorists. Not to mention the hundreds of thousands killed by Saddam.
 
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Takun

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Great, now I have to listen to all that fucking crappy tribute music on the radio all day. Get over it America. Yeah, it's sad, yeah people died. But I don't think they'd approve of what you've managed to do IN THEIR NAME. It's like some sort of Allahu Ackbar cry for us. REMEMBER 9/11, lets wiretap people. REMEMBER 9/11, lets let illegals in and not punish them. REMEMBER 9/11, lets raise the capital gains tax. Seriously America, get a fucking grip. I still love you, but sometimes, I wonder why.

Oh god. Today I got a text message in class and it was from a college buddy from last semester who I haven't talked to in awhile. I open it....fucking chain letter about 9/11. Fuck spreading that shit. I'm sure that is what the people who died really wanted, CHAIN MAIL about them. I raged about it.
 

lupinealchemist

Hamburger time.
Ironically, this is both my biological parents' birthday. How do you think my mom felt when it happened?
 

Bambi

Joined 2008 - Returned 2022
To be honest the death toll fails to shock me when I see how many civilians have died so far in the 'Iraq war'. I mean, that number is HUGE. I mean sure, 9/11 was a tragedy, but I don't see what makes it a greater tragedy than this.

To be honest the death toll fails to shock me when I see how many civilians have died so far in the, "World War 2". I mean, that number was EPICLY HUGE. I mean, sure, Iraq was a tragedy, but I don't see what makes it a greater tragedy than this ...

You shouldn't neglect 'tragedies' because there isn't enough 'statistics' to make them qualify for your critera of, "shocking or horrible". For example: the King David Hotel bombing was a terrorist attack against Britain and the Filistine Arabs. Should the Palestinians and British neglect that in place with 9/11, by the same standards you believed in neglecting 9/11 due to Iraq? Since we all agree Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, please, let's not play tid-for-tad with the deaths of either event. Since, in my opinion, each person lost meant something to someone else.

*sigh* But fuck, it's been seven years. Fuck nevar forgeting. I want people to shut the hell up about it.

Should the Palestinians forget about what Israel has done to them then?

I'm just curious; since "forgetting about it" looses its convenience as soon as people open up their mouths to voice an opinion on the Iraq War (current generation) or the moral quagmire that is Central and North Eastern Africa.
 
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