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A Question About: Otherkin

Dandorm

Fahcs Lives!
Hi everyone,

I'm trying to make it a habit in my life to learn more about stuff I don't quite understand so I figured I'd start with this one. But before I say anything I just want to point out that this is me just wanting to learn more, I don't want to cause any arguments or have any insults if people disagree, just keep it civil :)

Okay, so from what I understand, Otherkin are those who believe themselves to be non-human. I heard the term through the fandom but I think it can be applied outside it too, so people can believe themselves to be spirits or mythical creatures. So my questions go out to anyone who defines themselves as Otherkin or anyone who can offer an input really, what drove you to discover this about yourself? Like, what made you start to think of yourself as Otherkin?

Also, correct me if I'm wrong but I've heard that Otherkin have different perceptions of themselves as humans, for example, one might see themselves as half human-half dragon, while someone else might see themselves as no human at all, is this accurate?

Oh and one more I just thought of, are there any times you have to act differently to how you'd like in order to fit in? Or do you just behave how you want to and let others choose to accept that or not?

Okay all done, thanks for reading :D
 

Ahkrin Descol

RELIC Specialist
I was under the impression those that believe they are non-human were Therian. Otherkin to me is someone who closely sees their being/personality as being quite close/exactly that of an animal/fictional creature. It's a rather murky topic that's contradicted on practically every site I visit. Anyone care to clarify/correct me?

Edit: Ah, thanks for the responses. Ignore this post.
 
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Samandriel Morningstar

The Morningstar
Otherkin are people who identify as partially or entirely non-human. Some say that they are, in spirit if not in body, not human. This is explained by some members of the otherkin community as possible through reincarnation, having a non-human soul, ancestry, or symbolic metaphor. Some scholars categorize this identity claim as "religious", because it is largely based on supernatural beliefs.

Source: Otherkin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Therians are people who identify, in some intrinsic way, as an animal that exists or has existed on earth. Some believe that their soul is that of an animal while others identify as a non-human animal. They practice Ph-Shifting and M-Shifting. Ph-shifting is when they try to connect to or feel any phantom limbs that correspond with their theriotype(s). This is NOT physical shifting. M-shifting is when they attempt to go into a state of their kintype. They may end up behaving like an animal or seem completely human. This helps them get closer to their kintype and understand more.

Source:otherkin.wikia.com: Therians
 

RollerRobert

Fallen Angel
Being pretty active in the otherkin community, I can say that everyone's beliefs seem to be a bit different. Some believe that they were an animal in a past life, some identify as an animal that has been born into a human body, some believe they're their kintype in an alternate universe, some see themselves as an animal for comfort and to cope with everyday life, some believe that is their form on the astral plane, etc. There are probably many ways of being otherkin that I'm not even aware of yet. As mentioned before, we identify as an animal on a strictly non-physical level (AKA yes, we know that we have human bodies and that we shouldn't, say eat gems if you're dragon kin). My personal belief is that my soul is that of an animal, and that this could have possibly been the first life I had. I found my animal through meditation, but some find it through dreams, flashbacks, or conscious reflection of themselves.
What you said about some kinfolk seeing themselves as either partially or fully (non-physically) an animal is correct, too! For example, I believe that my soul's an animal,but all of my other energies are those of a human. Some only identify as an animal psychologically - they see themselves as that animal and take on its mentality. However I don't know many psychological kinfolk - most seem to be spiritual. (NB: When I say 'take on its mentality', I mean choose to accept that side of them. Kintypes are not a choice, though there is some debate as to how they come about if they're non-spiritual)
In terms of how we act, most of the time you'd never be able to tell that we were otherkin. M(ental) shifting has already been mentioned - when we take on the mentality of the animal, and usually revert to acting more like them. This usually happens in private or with trusted, accepting friends, and even if a shift happens in public, we usually simply not act on our urges, which, for example, for a dog kin might involve chasing things, biting into soft things, barking, etc. (For me it's not as profound - I get cravings for food similar to what my kintype would eat, I feel the urge to walk more, especially in hard-rimmed shoes as my kintype is hooved, and I'm more likely to see myself as the animal as I go about my day. Occasionally I feel astral horns - the sensation that they should be there, with the knowledge that my soul has them in the astral plane. This is considered Ph(antom) shifting. Note that the term 'phantom limbs/horns/etc' is rarely used as there is some dispute over whether it should be reserved for amputees, who experience the phenomenon a lot more often and apparently stronger. Astral limbs or other-limbs are the terms I've seen used instead.) Most of the people going around claiming that they're 'oppressed' for being otherkin or saying that "my gender is cat" are either trolls or wildly, WILDLY uninformed. And there are a lot of trolls trying to make us look bad and poking fun at us, trust me. "Look, something thinks they're an animal, let's make fun of them without researching their stance on things or even considering that they're aware of their human status. YOU CAN'T BE AN EAGLE YOU CAN'T FLY." Not helpful at all.
For the great majority of us, this is just another part of our identity, and we don't make a big deal out of it.
Here are some links for you:
otherkinfaq.tumblr.com: No, Plantkin don't care if you cut grass
http://seriousotherkin.tumblr.com/
Otherkin - WikiFur, the furry encyclopedia
Sorry for the large post - I'm just glad that people are learning about these things! They're quite interesting, to be honest, if you proceed with an open mind. Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!
 

Nataku

Shapeshifting alien dragon
Thank you @RufusIsTrueBeauty. That was quite an informative post (with even more informative links). Don't get to see that many well thought out posts around here. Let alone ones on this topic. Then again, not a topic that comes up a lot around here.
 

Faunny C.

I'm a Deer-Dragon. Yup, that's a thing.
I'm a half dragon, and I have thought of myself that way for as long as I can remember. It was only recently I discovered Otherkin and am not really part of the community even though I identify that way. A few of the things I feel as a dragon are, wings that aren't there, almost constant heart burn, wanting to put jewelry in my mouth, and I often have thoughts like "that's such a human thing". That isn't everything, but it is the stuff that is easiest to explain. I hope that was helpful. And thank you for having a genuine interest in learning about us.
 

Dandorm

Fahcs Lives!
Oh wow, thank you for the replies everyone, I didn't realise there was so much stuff surrounding the topic. So @RufusIsTrueBeauty, when you get this sense of astral horns, it's like you connecting with your kintype?

And a question to everybody really, being an Otherkin, how did the feeling come about? Did it just feel natural like how one might discover themselves as Furry/Homosexual/Bisexual/Trans etc.? Or was it something else?

Feel free to correct me on anything by the way :p
 

SodaBubbles

I will deliver the explosion
I've always found otherkin to be fascinating, and not in a sarcastic way. I grew up in a hugely spiritual environment, and the idea of connecting with things spritually has always been an interest of mine. Thanks for all the information! (usually it was very hard to find it well presented in the past)
 

RollerRobert

Fallen Angel
Oh wow, thank you for the replies everyone, I didn't realise there was so much stuff surrounding the topic. So @RufusIsTrueBeauty, when you get this sense of astral horns, it's like you connecting with your kintype?

And a question to everybody really, being an Otherkin, how did the feeling come about? Did it just feel natural like how one might discover themselves as Furry/Homosexual/Bisexual/Trans etc.? Or was it something else?

Feel free to correct me on anything by the way :p
It's great when Ph-shifting collides with M-shifting, but most of the time when I feel the horns it's at a random time, and they can appear and fade several times throughout the day. Shifts don't usually last all that long for me (half an hour at most, probably). I mostly feel connected to my kintype when I'm taking a walk in an M-shift - astral horns tend to just present the sensation and not a feeling of connection.
A note on the LGBT+ community and otherkin, since you mentioned it - while many (probably the majority, even) of otherkin are LGBT+ (myself included), some claim that we are harmful, particularly to the trans community. The concept of otherkin is separate to that of gender, contrary to what trolls may say, and most of the assumptions that it's harmful to trans people comes from the idea that this is a physical identity, and that we want to 'transition' become the animal - it the great majority of cases, this is not true (and in those in which it's a physical identity, we often urge them to seek help as this is delusional and not a healthy way of being otherkin), and most people claiming these things are uneducated about our actual beliefs and identities.

And to answer your other question: I found out that I was otherkin after a few months of looking into the subject - I ended up questioning myself, wondering whether it applied to me as I was just discovering my spirituality, and I just went from there. It's actually very common to get a kintype wrong at first - I originally thought my soul was a deer (I now understand that it's simply a favourite animal), but through meditation I figured out it was something else, and it wasn't an animal I expected, either, which was an interesting revelation. I have since researched my kintype, and even managed to narrow it down to a sub-species. I did this as I found a sub-species that lived in a certain area that I had visited before and felt so connected and at home in, that I began calling it my soul-home, even before knowing about otherkin, and so I believe that my soul is the sub-species that lives there. I may be wrong, of course (and I have been wrong about the sub-species before), so it's important to be open to the possibility that my soul is not what I think. It's a journey of discovery, really, and not a single event of, "I know exactly what my kintype is after a single meditation/dream/flashback/[other way of awakening as otherkin]".
I had always thought of myself as somewhat animalistic, but it was always more canine animals - I didn't really foresee being any kind of hooved animal before I meditated on it. This is just my experience, of course, and everyone has a different way of knowing (awakening, as we call it).
Oh goodness, I sure have a lot to say on this topic...
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I'm a half dragon, and I have thought of myself that way for as long as I can remember. It was only recently I discovered Otherkin and am not really part of the community even though I identify that way. A few of the things I feel as a dragon are, wings that aren't there, almost constant heart burn, wanting to put jewelry in my mouth, and I often have thoughts like "that's such a human thing". That isn't everything, but it is the stuff that is easiest to explain. I hope that was helpful. And thank you for having a genuine interest in learning about us.

Having heartburn doesn't mean you're part dragon though; it could be indicative of a medical condition.
 

XenoQc

Changing
In 2009 I have meet aliens you told me to be my real parents. They explained that I crashed on earth and reincarnated into human so I have an alien soul and spirit. I know I have a human body and a human life but inside I am an alien and I considere to be an alien because they insisted to say that I am one of them. In ufology a guy that has my situation we call this a ''Walk-in'' . Here in the furfandom would I be considered an otherkin?
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
In 2009 I have meet aliens you told me to be my real parents. They explained that I crashed on earth and reincarnated into human so I have an alien soul and spirit. I know I have a human body and a human life but inside I am an alien and I considere to be an alien because they insisted to say that I am one of them. In ufology a guy that has my situation we call this a ''Walk-in'' . Here in the furfandom would I be considered an otherkin?

I think you'd be considered a nutter.
 

XenoQc

Changing
I am not mad or eccentric... I considere what I have been told by them
 

Faunny C.

I'm a Deer-Dragon. Yup, that's a thing.
Having heartburn doesn't mean you're part dragon though; it could be indicative of a medical condition.
I actually am diagnosed with acid reflux disease. But I thought of it as fire breath that can't go anywhere. It may be silly, but that's just how it is for me. I guess this comes from someone who spent their childhood explaining away some of their abnormalities with "Oh, it must be a dragon thing." even when it wasn't.
 

Dandorm

Fahcs Lives!
Oh goodness, I sure have a lot to say on this topic...
Don't worry about it, I'm finding it all very informative :)

Sorry if I don't quite understand what you wrote RufusIsTrueBeauty, but in what way are you harmful to the LGBT+ community? Like you said the fact you are Otherkin is unrelated, besides some Otherkin's being a part of the LGBT+ community. Is it because Otherkin's are associated with those who try transition to becoming an animal and that is then associated with the LGBT+ community? Or something else?

I find it very interesting how people go through their awakenings and such. I know it's not exactly the same but when I was younger I used to meditate with my mum a bit and she always told me my spirit animal was a dog, though I forget what kind now. I always found it a unique experience though to feel like I was being aided by my spiritual companion. Like I said, I know it's not quite the same, but I wonder if spirit animals are connected in some way?

I actually am diagnosed with acid reflux disease. But I thought of it as fire breath that can't go anywhere. It may be silly, but that's just how it is for me. I guess this comes from someone who spent their childhood explaining away some of their abnormalities with "Oh, it must be a dragon thing." even when it wasn't.
That's a cool way of looking at it, maybe we are all part dragon? :p
 

RollerRobert

Fallen Angel
Sorry if I don't quite understand what you wrote RufusIsTrueBeauty, but in what way are you harmful to the LGBT+ community? Like you said the fact you are Otherkin is unrelated, besides some Otherkin's being a part of the LGBT+ community. Is it because Otherkin's are associated with those who try transition to becoming an animal and that is then associated with the LGBT+ community? Or something else?
Yeah, a lot of people hold the misconception that we want to 'transition' to become an animal (which, as I said, is not the case), and they compare that to being trans and use the argument, "If we let people change gender, they'll be changing species soon," and point to otherkin as an example of this without fully understanding what we're about. I can say though, as a trans person, that although there is occasionally a longing for feeling more like an animal (which I'm sure most people, otherkin or not, experience from time to time), it is nowhere near as strong nor persistent as the need to present myself as the gender I identify as (male), and that my being trans and being otherkin are not intertwined, don't influence each other and by no means are an extension of each other, as in the argument which I mentioned those against both groups use.
 

RollerRobert

Fallen Angel
In 2009 I have meet aliens you told me to be my real parents. They explained that I crashed on earth and reincarnated into human so I have an alien soul and spirit. I know I have a human body and a human life but inside I am an alien and I considere to be an alien because they insisted to say that I am one of them. In ufology a guy that has my situation we call this a ''Walk-in'' . Here in the furfandom would I be considered an otherkin?
That's rather interesting! The belief of having been reincarnated from something non-human to a human body and the belief of being non-human in soul and spirit would fall under the category of otherkin, yes, although don't feel the need to label yourself as such if you don't want to. The otherkin community and furry fandom are seperate, too - so most furries don't know about otherkin, or consider it weird, even after learning about it, and not all otherkin are furries. I'm guessing that's why I'm writing so much - I finally have somewhere to talk about it. But if that's what you believe, then that's what you believe, as long as you aren't hurting anyone or yourself. I'm curious about the alien encounter, too, but don't feel pressured to tell me about it if you don't want to!
 
I think i might be borderline thereon, when I was young I used to sometimes think I was actually sonic the hedgehog. And then more recently I've felt myself have a tail and muzzle a few times.

Also the fact I sometimes growl and when I practised howling it felt kinda natural to me I guess... Also the other week, a couple of dogs (with different people) seemed to be very excited when they saw me, even though I've never seen them before and other people didn't excite them.
 

Sergei Nóhomo

Spicey Memes
Banned
They are people whom you do not take seriously. Simply laugh at them and walk away. Enabling their behavior and beliefs hurts not only them but many others as it begins to spread with the belief that it is acceptable.

Kind of like aids I guess
 
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