A Question For Trans Furries

[Punk_M0nitor]

To trans furries like myself: is your fursona cis or trans? I'm genuinely curious because I've seen a lot of takes on it. Feel free to explain why if you're comfortable

My fursona is cis (while I'm FtM trans), but has reptilian-accurate anatomy, so it's different than a cis male mammal might have. It's more comfortable to me because I'm able to separate him from the 'norm' while still technically giving him the body I wish I had

 

[Fatal]

Most of my fursonas are genderfluid because I'm genderfluid.

 

[ben909]

not sure if i should vote for the poll, because i am not trans in rl, and don't feel at all like it, however to have my character be different then me, although in the context of transformations its a bit different, i find it interesting to have such things be influenced by an outside factor outside of the characters direct control

however, in some ways this makes my 2 "factored out" root designs genderless, although the male one(like in rl) is more common

 

[QueenSekhmet]

i'm non-binary so i not really count but even though i'm female leaning and my FURSONAS are both female,i have a steamsona that is BEYOND gender on account of being a cosmic horror who's true form lacks any real gender/sex at all and is just as comfortable playing the role of a man as they are playing that of a woman so that stuff isn't even on that sona's radar.

 

[Punk_M0nitor]

i'm non-binary so i not really count but even though i'm female leaning and my FURSONAS are both female,i have a steamsona that is BEYOND gender on account of being a cosmic horror who's true form lacks any real gender/sex at all and is just as comfortable playing the role of a man as they are playing that of a woman so that stuff isn't even on that sona's radar.

The steamsona would count as the third option (character having no concept of gender/sex)

I personally think non-binary people fall under the trans umbrella, hence why I added it, but that's a controversial topic for another day

 

[QueenSekhmet]

The steamsona would count as the third option (character having no concept of gender/sex)

I personally think non-binary people fall under the trans umbrella, hence why I added it, but that's a controversial topic for another day

*shrugs* either way,i don't think most trans folk would want their sona of any kind to be trans: the point of being trans is that you identify as a different gender than you were born as so why would anyone want a sona that is different than what they identify as (for lack of a better example: if i were born and raised as a christain but identified more as jewish then why wouldn't i make the character that's supposed to be a reflection of me be jewish? i wouldn't want to force my sona to be something i wouldn't want to be)? if you identify as one gender then making your sona trans kind of defeats the point since it's unlikely you would CHOOSE to have been trans if given the choice (that is to say,if you were to simply have been born what you identify as then you would likely take that over just identifying).

i swear to god i'm trying to be as unoffensive about this as possible. i just don't see why anyone would want their personal character to face the same struggles they do rather than do what you do and simply make your character the thing you identify as. only reason i can see making design exceptions is if you're,say fursuiting for example and feel like you should design the character to better fit your body so your limitations don't clash too much with the character.

 

[ben909]

*shrugs* either way,i don't think most trans folk would want their sona of any kind to be trans: the point of being trans is that you identify as a different gender than you were born as so why would anyone want a sona that is different than what they identify as (for lack of a better example: if i were born and raised as a christain but identified more as jewish then why wouldn't i make the character that's supposed to be a reflection of me be jewish? i wouldn't want to force my sona to be something i wouldn't want to be)? if you identify as one gender then making your sona trans kind of defeats the point since it's unlikely you would CHOOSE to have been trans if given the choice (that is to say,if you were to simply have been born what you identify as then you would likely take that over just identifying).

i swear to god i'm trying to be as unoffensive about this as possible. i just don't see why anyone would want their personal character to face the same struggles they do rather than do what you do and simply make your character the thing you identify as. only reason i can see making design exceptions is if you're,say fursuiting for example and feel like you should design the character to better fit your body so your limitations don't clash too much with the character.

i see your point, and to me it makes sense, however, from character designs i have seen on the main site, its not always the case

 

[QueenSekhmet]

i see your point, and to me it makes sense, however, from character designs i have seen on the main site, its not always the case

i feel like anyone doing that is the type that lacks any real personality so they try to make up with their sexuality/gender identity so no one think they're as dull as they actually are (keep in mind that this only applies to sonas,not OC's since sonas are,by design intended to be more personal to whoever created them). but anyway,i don't wanna end up derailing the topic all to hell so i won't get too deep into all that but it just seems odd to me that anyone would waste the chance to create a more idealized version of themselves (hell,i do it: i'm NOWHERE near as rich or nice as my cat fursona but by god that didn't stop me from making her a fancy ass broadway star that can seduce anyone into playing her little games on her giant ass bed with the scarlet silk blanket). why not shoot for perfection,ya know?

 

[ben909]

i feel like anyone doing that is the type that lacks any real personality so they try to make up with their sexuality/gender identity so no one think they're as dull as they actually are (keep in mind that this only applies to sonas,not OC's since sonas are,by design intended to be more personal to whoever created them). but anyway,i don't wanna end up derailing the topic all to hell so i won't get too deep into all that but it just seems odd to me that anyone would waste the chance to create a more idealized version of themselves (hell,i do it: i'm NOWHERE near as rich or nice as my cat fursona but by god that didn't stop me from making her a fancy ass broadway star that can seduce anyone into playing her little games on her giant ass bed with the scarlet silk blanket). why not shoot for perfection,ya know?

i get your point, just pointing out what i have seen, more so recently then before

my good spirited guess is that they want a character that shares traits with themseves, and this the non physical trans stuff remains, although its likely off


i myself am more involved with transformation stuff, so that really stands out then

 

[QueenSekhmet]

i get your point, just pointing out what i have seen, more so recently then before

my good spirited guess is that they want a character that shares traits with themseves, and this the non physical trans stuff remains, although its likely off


i myself am more involved with transformation stuff, so that really stands out then

ya,it's all just a bit hard for me to wrap my head around since i've never thought of myself as being part of the "LGBT community" despite being both pans and non-binary (nor do i count myself as part of ANY community. mostly because i hate everyone too much for that) so i'm not really IN on a lot of the goings on nor do i really understand a lot of what people do or why they do it (though that could likely be said for how i see anyone anyway).XD

 

[RoyalAnimal]

I'm transmasc and my sona is trans too.

I used to have idealized fursona's but I could never really connect with them. They were more like oc's than me.
I also like drawing myself with my partners(if they have fursonas) romantically and intimately and giving my sona things I don't have feels way too disconnected for me. Again it goes back to that might as well be an oc.

It's also a little bit out of spite. A lot of people think I should be ashamed, upset, or angry, at my body. But I'm not. I actually really love my body. And things need fixing, sure. But this is the body I've always had and always will have. This body has been scrutinized and shamed and attacked by so many people, but it's also carried me safely through it all. I wouldn't be who I am without it, and without this experience. And I like who I am right now. So the idea that I should be running from my body is one that I'll fight anyone on.

So that's why my fursona is fat and trans. He hasn't had top surgery and wears a binder(although I've taken liberties to reduce my own dysphoria while drawing him). He'll get his scars when I do in 6 months and as I'm growing my beard and body hair I'm giving it to him too. He has my piercings and tatts and he'll have any other changes I make to myself down the line. Because he's me.

 

[Punk_M0nitor]

i feel like anyone doing that is the type that lacks any real personality so they try to make up with their sexuality/gender identity so no one think they're as dull as they actually are (keep in mind that this only applies to sonas,not OC's since sonas are,by design intended to be more personal to whoever created them). but anyway,i don't wanna end up derailing the topic all to hell so i won't get too deep into all that but it just seems odd to me that anyone would waste the chance to create a more idealized version of themselves (hell,i do it: i'm NOWHERE near as rich or nice as my cat fursona but by god that didn't stop me from making her a fancy ass broadway star that can seduce anyone into playing her little games on her giant ass bed with the scarlet silk blanket). why not shoot for perfection,ya know?

I tend to disagree there. I constantly joke about being bisexual and promote my fursona being bisexual, but that's not my or my sona's entire personality. You can reclaim an aspect of yourself without making it a facet of your personality (especially if you've previously been made to feel ashamed or subhuman because of that aspect). To me, making a fursona visibly LGBT+ is just the same as making their fursona of a specific nationality, occupation, what have you. It's just a part of what makes them whole. You wouldn't say a character's 'entire personality' is their job if they have a specified occupation, so why is it that a character being LGBT+ is their whole personality?

And fursonas aren't necessarily 'idealized' versions of ourselves. A lot of people's fursonas aren't even anything like the irl person, like you just said. They're just an avatar to represent ourselves creatively.

I'm not really here to argue, just to state my perspective

 

[QueenSekhmet]

I tend to disagree there. I constantly joke about being bisexual and promote my fursona being bisexual, but that's not my or my sona's entire personality. You can reclaim an aspect of yourself without making it a facet of your personality (especially if you've previously been made to feel ashamed or subhuman because of that aspect). To me, making a fursona visibly LGBT+ is just the same as making their fursona of a specific nationality, occupation, what have you. It's just a part of what makes them whole. You wouldn't say a character's 'entire personality' is their job if they have a specified occupation, so why is it that a character being LGBT+ is their whole personality?

And fursonas aren't necessarily 'idealized' versions of ourselves. A lot of people's fursonas aren't even anything like the irl person, like you just said. They're just an avatar to represent ourselves creatively.

I'm not really here to argue, just to state my perspective

thing about things likes nationality or occupation is that there are things behind it that can back it up (nationality comes with a whole culture and customs you can use or ignore based on your character's story and even occupations are what your character does for a living and,like it or not jobs tend to take up a LOT of our lives). i'm not saying don't make your fursona trans,gay,bi ect: i'm just saying that there ARE a lot of people that make their sexuality/identity their only personality trait (you know the one's: pronouns in the bio,pride flags everywhere,are mad that there aren't enough gay characters in media,are mad if there ARE gay characters in media but it's not good enough for them,tries to made non-gay things gay for no reason other than it's own sake ect) and THOSE are the people i'm talking about. if you can make your fursona openly gay and it be done as simply a PART of their story and not the whole (and it also flows well with the world they exist in so that your character isn't "special" just because they're gay) then by all means,more power to you. at the end of the day it's your character and you can do whatever you want with it. but i'm just saying that being gay shouldn't be all there is to them just like there should be more to a character than just being black or female.

and by idealized i mean that no one want's to create a personal character like that with the same real life problem that they have: i know none of MY characters sure as fuck didn't go through a very lonely childhood,suffered a school life that was nothing short of HELL or exist in a endless vortex of sadness and rage with DEEPLY untreated depression and no logical reason not to just kill themselves because they have absolutely NOTHING to live for and no one who would actually miss them all that much. and why don't they? because i already have enough of that shit to deal with on my own without having creating characters to remind me of the pain i feel on a daily bases. THAT is why i idealize my various sonas and why i assume that other people do the same to at least SOME degree: who the hell want's to be reminded of that every time they look at their character? real life sucks so might as well create one that doesn't. no point creating something that shares your every flaw,pain and bad memory just for the sake of making a carbon copy of yourself.

 

[The_Happiest_Husky]

Of the 5 trans furries I'm friends with, 3 of them have trans sonas and two cis