Raever
Chaotic Neutral Wreckage
The sad thing is that this affect this people, who makes it normally and not too often. Like once a 4-5 hours. And who violate the rules continue to do it.
1. Not everyone does what I do, I was just answering your questions, so try not to take it as an overall rule as - such as said in the post - I'm only speaking for myself there.
2. I don't mind "normal" reminders. I just don't consider every four hours normal.
Even when watching tv back when commercials in between shows were a thing people had to deal with (I feel old lol) I'd see the same ad 1 to 3 times - maybe four if it was a really persistent one, or just one of those weird 5 second black screen things (anyone else remember those...? Just me? Okay lol).
3. You mention this as if people are violating the rules, and that it's justified...I feel like that alone just needs repeating lol
Are you getting paid for all this rubbish?
Being paid for giving my opinion and backing it up with logic and reason? Oh man, I wish. Unfortunately I'm not a furry rant channel on youtube so...
these pathetic attempts to justify the unfounded
You will ignore the damage done to the artists, putting forward arguments like "you feel better, this is not a problem for you, I sold it for a hobby, I'm fine."
If you think that of all things is my argument then you clearly have not read any of my posts. Therefore, I won't bother clarifying for you - as it's clear you only wish for emotional validation (or drama).
Moving on.
If you do not care about a group of artists who have suffered from the new rules. where did you get the idea that tomorrow some other group of people in the FA will not suffer? What sane person will raise a feeling of annoyance from reminders and close his eyes to serious losses for people?
Similar to the above, this is overall unrelated to what I had said and is an emotional reaction. I apologize for your feelings of hurt, but I am not the source that your hurt should be directed at.
Moving on.
I laugh from your stupid comparisons, the fa is a unique platform with a unique economic system. all here were happy artists and shoppers. from a convenient sales system you made a resource suitable only for mediocre artists and people with special fetishes
1. FA has economic purpose but does not serve as a primary economic platform/selling system (such as Ebay, for example) even if some artists tend to use it as such, so your point is moot.
2. Many artists can, do, and will still thrive here both old and new. To call those people mediocre is not backed by any facts, and is only insulting to your fellow artist.
3. Also, not to state the already stated but, you're also insulting commissioners saying whoever buys art now is just doing so for sexual purposes. There are a lot of clean artists and clean commissioners out there who deserve the same respect as you do. Please remember this.
@Reaver
you write this because you didn’t suffer in any way, if you were among us, you would cry plaintively and ask for mercy. do not disgrace and do not waste time on all the nonsense you wrote
If I were among you, I'd still have the logic that I'm using now. You imply that this change took away your ability to think - and that's quite worrisome. Not to mention, if I were among you, I'd be on other platforms. So even if FA did effect me on a personal level, it wouldn't effect me in the way being complained about. I'd find a way to continue with my career. As all should.
The banners and ads are useless because many people are traveling with ad blockers
I hear this a lot. Frankly, my ad blocker doesn't remove FA's ads. I don't have FA white listed either (though I would if it did as I like looking at the ads most of the time). Still, I honestly don't know how many ad blockers don't effect FA, but mine is one of the most downloaded ones so...I'll leave this as something to digest a bit.
But I didn't really find those that came close to the crowd besides Devienart
I think the biggest issue is that people think FA won't still serve as marketing, and it can and will do so. Doubly so if you share things regularly in the forum such as in the sketchbook section. You don't have to --- but there isn't anything wrong with just showing off what you create, right? That should be the main purpose of an artist based website/community anyway (Imo). I could say more about the above but...I don't think I need to.
a second at 2h would be crazy that nobody wants either at 4h again
If you follow a hundred active artists who post YCH - hell even just fifty - and you go by previous setup, that's 200 reminders in a single day assuming they take advantage of the 4 hours whenever they're awake, and choose to sleep 8 hours like an average human on top of that.
If they're posting gods or they have occasional help with their advertising, it would be a total of 300 reminders a day. This is only from 50 artists, most people follow 100 to 200 or more (which would be 400 at minimum to 1,200 at maximum if they were still choosing to take advantage of that every 4 hour rule).
That's just assuming they follow the rules to a T and take advantage whenever they can, which is what I assume most of the artists here claim to do (otherwise losing time wouldn't be a valid argument).
That, imo, is crazy and is absolutely spam by every sense of the word. FA has hundreds of thousands of artists, all of which who would like to advertise. I don't even wanna try to do the math for something outside of a favorite artists submissions section.
If we were in the browsing section and everyone was taking advantage of that 4 hour rule...?
Just for shits and giggles here, let's say FA has a total of 100,000 users (based on its forum and login numbers we know it's FAR more than that but let's just be generous).
If those 100,000 slept eight hours but took advantage of that 4 hour rule, it would be a total of 400,000 advertisements minimum. If they're posting gods it would be around 600,000.
Moving the time limit up by four hours gives breathing room mathematically speaking.
Just for shits and giggles here, let's say FA has a total of 100,000 users (based on its forum and login numbers we know it's FAR more than that but let's just be generous).
If those 100,000 slept eight hours but took advantage of that 4 hour rule, it would be a total of 400,000 advertisements minimum. If they're posting gods it would be around 600,000.
Moving the time limit up by four hours gives breathing room mathematically speaking.