DorjeStego
5-HT2A receptor agonist
AI art is still far from being a production-ready technology. And the examples I've seen, tend to be very lacking. Case in point.
About the AI Art
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It exists, it has real world uses for artists, such as bashing out ideas, early concepts etc. However there is a lot of legal and ethical stuff that needs to be worked out over the years. So my stance on it at the moment is (Meh). I like the technology, I don't like how it's being trained.
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Don't worry, like many programs developed by people, AI still needs a creative behind it, otherwise it will just pump out generic boring stuff.
Fallowfox
Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
@DorjeStego That is actually an almost-ready image. It just needs to be cleaned up by a person, and then it would be useable.
ssaannttoo
Joy Boi
I think this is a super interesting subject, for a lot of different reasons.
(1) The fact that technology is getting to the point where you can get some really cool looking surrealistic pieces is awesome. Despite the fears that Skynet will be a thing these kinds of predictive technologies can innovate the medical field, help analyze forrests and natural habitats, as well as make more accurate market decisions to better assist in overall quality of life 'upgrades'.
(2) The possible ethical problems this can face. The first point that was made was how a deceased artist style was being replicated by an AI. If we look at art styles through the lenses of patents then yeah I see how that can be questionable. However artists currently take inspiration or practice other artists styles to try and look like their artwork. It isn't inherently a bad thing. If you are using AI to create a style of art then claim the piece to be made by said artist that is a different can of worms.
(3) The worry that AI will put artists out of business. Im sorta on the fence about this. On one hand I dont think AI will ever remove the need for artists. Even now there is the 'artisanal' crafting of things that can easily be done on an assembly line, however there is a bit of a perceived quality or luxury of having something made by another person. TWO people will continue to exist and IF AI happens to overwhelm the market by storm and furry commissioners no longer need Furry Artists there are still jobs or skillsets that come from that profession that can be applied to other fields. Teaching AI things about art, making examples. That is also really important about AI, its always leaning, there is always new things to try or discover or styles that can be created or developed.
While AI will change things expecially as the technology developed I don't think it will be bad it will be different its just how we deal with it when it comes and better evaluating the effects instead of speculating about what could happen.
(1) The fact that technology is getting to the point where you can get some really cool looking surrealistic pieces is awesome. Despite the fears that Skynet will be a thing these kinds of predictive technologies can innovate the medical field, help analyze forrests and natural habitats, as well as make more accurate market decisions to better assist in overall quality of life 'upgrades'.
(2) The possible ethical problems this can face. The first point that was made was how a deceased artist style was being replicated by an AI. If we look at art styles through the lenses of patents then yeah I see how that can be questionable. However artists currently take inspiration or practice other artists styles to try and look like their artwork. It isn't inherently a bad thing. If you are using AI to create a style of art then claim the piece to be made by said artist that is a different can of worms.
(3) The worry that AI will put artists out of business. Im sorta on the fence about this. On one hand I dont think AI will ever remove the need for artists. Even now there is the 'artisanal' crafting of things that can easily be done on an assembly line, however there is a bit of a perceived quality or luxury of having something made by another person. TWO people will continue to exist and IF AI happens to overwhelm the market by storm and furry commissioners no longer need Furry Artists there are still jobs or skillsets that come from that profession that can be applied to other fields. Teaching AI things about art, making examples. That is also really important about AI, its always leaning, there is always new things to try or discover or styles that can be created or developed.
While AI will change things expecially as the technology developed I don't think it will be bad it will be different its just how we deal with it when it comes and better evaluating the effects instead of speculating about what could happen.
MrArborsexual
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We'll still need good programmers to double/triple check the AI output, at least in code and related fields. Whenever an AI outputs something, right or wrong, it is always fully confident in the output.
In the art world, there will still be demand for real artists, even if for no other reason than to say you purchased artwork from a real artist. This isn't the best comparison but it is kinda like how digital watches and phones have not completely elimintated demand for mechanical wrist and pocket watches. Hell even machine stampable mechanical watch designs have not eliminated demand for handmade pieces (which are surprisingly affordable if you really value your tiny clockwork tic-toks).
ConorHyena
From out of the rain.
Technology only ever works at 50% promised capacity when it collides with the real world.
Amepix
Some Furry Artist
And that's why the programmers are the only job. To make the AI work.
ConorHyena
From out of the rain.
but it never does
Frank Gulotta
Send us your floppy
If beauty is in the eye of the beholder then there's no going around the fact AI art is valid
This was AI generated and it's the most thought provoking piece of art I've seen in a while, fite me snobs
WanderingAimlessly
*speed of link noises*
As someone who actively does use an AI art generator I believe that as long as you
A. Aren't using it for commercial purposes
B. Aren't playing if off as real (Non-AI) art
C. Are only using it for personal purposes (i.e. wallpaper)
Obv next issue is the fact that all weights out there are using "stolen" artwork but I doubt you could get every artist that has ever uploaded on Danbooru or whereever you are sourcing your images from to agree to you using their art.
A. Aren't using it for commercial purposes
B. Aren't playing if off as real (Non-AI) art
C. Are only using it for personal purposes (i.e. wallpaper)
Obv next issue is the fact that all weights out there are using "stolen" artwork but I doubt you could get every artist that has ever uploaded on Danbooru or whereever you are sourcing your images from to agree to you using their art.
Stray Cat Terry
테리 / 特里 / テリー
When artists overall put restrictions higher (price, follows, etc), AI arts are gonna devour the 'market' (if we can call it so then) because accessibility; when artists lower the price overall, they're either gonna starve or be exhausted by the greater quantity needed.
The AI tech--while yet imperfect--could be the 'terminator' of this.
Everything's got the time to fade, and I think now it's the turn for artists, including myself.
However, considering AIs belong to certain developers and/or providers (companies or groups) thus they(who are also humans) shall be the one who'll act similar behaviors as indie artists. So, the AI vs indie artists thingy shall go somewhat even, I suppose.
Yet I'm not gonna deny it's likely chopping off many artists before things get clear and settled.
Anyways, I just don't want my stuff to be stolen or whatever in that terms.. at the very least.
The AI tech--while yet imperfect--could be the 'terminator' of this.
Everything's got the time to fade, and I think now it's the turn for artists, including myself.
However, considering AIs belong to certain developers and/or providers (companies or groups) thus they(who are also humans) shall be the one who'll act similar behaviors as indie artists. So, the AI vs indie artists thingy shall go somewhat even, I suppose.
Yet I'm not gonna deny it's likely chopping off many artists before things get clear and settled.
Anyways, I just don't want my stuff to be stolen or whatever in that terms.. at the very least.
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