Ambition (or lack thereof)

[Fenrari]

Now the origins of this post come from the melding of 2 very different topics.

The first originated from a conversation I had with a friend of mine on Twitter.

In the discussion I made note of how _Furry A_ was a college drop out and gave up everything to move 2 states over to be someone's pet. Before the incident, he was a acceptable student who would have done quite well. My friend thusly noted that a lot of furs in the fandom lack in the ambition department. Given the option of being someone's pet, they would give up everything because it's simply easier than going to school; military; holding down a job.

The latter melding was from my Confidence thread.

While reading through people's conversations, I noted that some people also seemed to be relatively content with their present status. Rather than give Fate the middle finger and bitch slap it for being rude; they reserve themselves to always being the beta.

And while obviously this doesn't apply to everyone and a good portion of my notation can be explained by the fact that many furs are teens without fully developed logic/ hard facts of life... I still wonder. Why do these people lack that fundamental drive to be better; attain a higher status in life and/or be more than they are. Why are they so content in staying where life places them?

Furthermore I want to hear about your ambitions. What do you want out of life? And don't limit your views to say a dream job or a house/lovely wife/kids and a dog. Go further tell me what you truly wish to achieve.

 

[RedFoxTwo]

You make an awful lot of threads... not that that's necessarily a bad thing.

Anyway, for me the dream is a job as a lead A.I. dev on a computer games design team.

Besides that it would be to be a father and travel the world with my offspring, just as my father raised me.

However if for the sake of argument I'm not allowed something as mundane as that then it would be to become either an RAF fighter ace or be CEO of my own biogenetics R&D company.

 

[Yago]

I plan to lead a video game design of some kind type of thing or whatever.

I also want to do whatever I want, I suppose. I just want respect, and the ability to live my life as I please. I'm not exactly an impulsive person. But I want to do what I want.

 

[Xenke]

Make computer stuff, boop boop.

Also to give my input to help make the thing in my sig totally awesome sauce.

 

[Dreaming]

I still wonder. Why do these people lack that fundamental drive to be better; attain a higher status in life and/or be more than they are. Why are they so content in staying where life places them?

Sometimes it's just not as simple and easy as that, when other factors come in. Myself as an example, I never went further with my college education because I was pretty much stuck in the social anxiety paradox (unable to communicate with anyone; fellow students, tutors, family thus unable to talk and seek help on it - etc).

To be honest, my issue is that I really don't have any big ambitions. I don't want to end up stuck in a dead-end job that I never studied to do, yet there's no job that I'd love to do. I've wanted to emigrate since my mid-teens, but I've never had any ambitions job-wise. I studied electronics because my Dad had gone down that route (at the time, this sort of added to my distaste for it). I kind of wish that I'd taken it further now, by my whole situation was shit during college, too much to bear on with.

I guess what I truly want to achieve is a stable job. A cliché high-earning job, I guess. If I had followed on with my college education, I imagine that I'd have the latter right now, perhaps the former too. In recent years I had shown an interest in aviation engineering, unfortunately there were no sources for education in that area.

 

[MattisVeneficus]

I actually have a very high ambition and plan for my future. I shall begin with my education.
I will be attending a very notable high school. Impressive academics, and a sport powerhouse. We've been in the top 5 for football in the last few years and have won more than our fair share of state championships. Most of the time, out team is so good the championship isn't even a good game. I believe last time it was life 35-0, and the other team was ranked HIGHER than us. You might know what this high school is if you're from my state. For the sake of privacy, please don't blurt it out to everyone.
Anyway, after high school I plan to go to Cornell University to get a base degree in Engineering. I want to get a doctorate degree in something along the lines of chemistry or medical research. I haven't decided yet.
Once I get my doctorate, if its in medical research and cancer isn't cured yet, I'm going to cure cancer. I'm not just going to try, I WILL.
If all goes to plan, I'm going to begin my presidential campaign, hopefully win the republican nomination, and win presidency.
Of course, this might all change at any time in my life, except the high school I'm going to (at least for the first year), but I believe I have the right to dream.

 

[RedFoxTwo]

Enjoy school while it lasts, kid.

 

[MattisVeneficus]

Enjoy school while it lasts, kid.

Given that this is the advice I get from most adults/college students, I sure as hell am going to try. =)

 

[M. LeRenard]

Again, I doubt this is just a furry thing. It's hard to grow up, after all. You move out of your parents' house, all of the sudden you start having to take care of bills, rent, groceries, cooking, cleaning, all while maintaining some kind of income so you don't lose your ability to pay for all of those things. Some people take it harder than others and feel a need to just give up, go let someone else take care of them for a while like their parents used to. This happens in a lot of societies to a lot of people. Hell, maybe it's even the original idea behind the 'rite of passage'... to force kids to become adults and recognize that now its their turn to start contributing to society. We don't have any rite of passage in America, really, so some people just feel a need to stay a kid for longer. And that's okay as long as they eventually grow out of that. The people who don't are the rightwing argument against social security.

Anyway, ambitions... I mean, I'm in the process of fulfilling them right now. In another year I'll have passed my qualifiers and started work on a PhD in astronomy. Once I earn that, I'll have contributed something new to the field of astronomy and I can start selling my expertise to people who want it. I suppose the ultimate point of pride for me would be to come up with a clever method or an equation or something that lots of people can use to further their research. You know... to write one of those papers that hundreds if not thousands of people end up having to cite. That would pretty damn cool.
Oh, and it'd be cool if I ended up making a bit of money off my novel, but I think the other one is more realistic and exciting.

 

[MattisVeneficus]

Hmmm...I am suddenly reminded that the field of physics exists....and I find it extremely interesting as well. Maybe a phd in that.
AHH! too many science fields I like. Ill just play it by year until I know what I want to do

 

[Viridis]

I plan to be a successful mechanical engineer. I wish to be one of the innovators of the world that builds the stuff everyone uses everyday.

I then plan to model myself after John Galt, at which point I will stop the motor of the world. Kudos if you got that without looking it up.


I want to build my own home as well, something mostly underground. Sort of like a miniature Cheyenne Mountain Complex, if you will.

Other than that, build up my life, and save the lives of others. I guess that's something I'm already doing though.

 

[Brazen]

I plan to make everyone mad, everywhere, preferrably at the same time.

 

[Ad Hoc]

Not becoming dependent on someone else, or worse, the government, would be nice. This is somewhat challenging, considering my health issues.

I have all but abandoned my dreams to avoid it. I do not know if this is admirable or cowardly.


If I could always at least hobby farm on the side, that would be nice.

 

[Dragonfurry]

The only thing I wanna do is probably get better at writing, publish my poems, go to college, get some business skills so I can start a book store(my dream).

I dont know if that is really ambitious but hey I like it and that is all that matters.

 

[SirRob]

Furries are escapists by nature. And in an environment such as online furry communities, they are encouraged to be their character. It's easy to see why many lack ambition- it's because they're too focused on their persona to care about their actual selves.

I want to be able to support myself, but my true ambition is to work on the comic I've had in my head for a very long time.

 

[Fenrari]

You make an awful lot of threads... not that that's necessarily a bad thing.

Anyway, for me the dream is a job as a lead A.I. dev on a computer games design team.

Besides that it would be to be a father and travel the world with my offspring, just as my father raised me.

However if for the sake of argument I'm not allowed something as mundane as that then it would be to become either an RAF fighter ace or be CEO of my own biogenetics R&D company.

Well I seem to capture your interest as you keep replying So I guess that means I'm being a productive member of our mini-society.

Given that this is the advice I get from most adults/college students, I sure as hell am going to try. =)

Trust me, the outside world after college sucks sooooo much more if you can't afford grad school and/or find a job. Live it up but do it safely.

Furries are escapists by nature. And in an environment such as online furry communities, they are encouraged to be their character. It's easy to see why many lack ambition- it's because they're too focused on their persona to care about their actual selves.

I want to be able to support myself, but my true ambition is to work on the comic I've had in my head for a very long time.

Even with a focus on persona's though. Ambition should be something we always have in the back of our minds that we work up to. Why the lack of it with furs?

 

[JArt.]

I used to be ambitious, i wanted to be remembered forever.
But then i realized that in the scoreboard of the universe, the only thing that matters is making the world/humanity better, even if your change is insignificant your life would have been worth it.
On a side note, who really wants to be some one else's pet?

 

[Fenrari]

I used to be ambitious, i wanted to be remembered forever.
But then i realized that in the scoreboard of the universe, the only thing that matters is making the world/humanity better, even if your change is insignificant your life would have been worth it.
On a side note, who really wants to be some one else's pet?

:/ I get offers for people to be my bitch/pet about once or twice a month. It gets really really annoying when you realize that the other person just wants someone they can use/repay with sex.

 

[JArt.]

:/ I get offers for people to be my bitch/pet about once or twice a month. It gets really really annoying when you realize that the other person just wants someone they can use/repay with sex.

Well you should thank them, they're confessing their attraction for you. :V

 

[Onnes]

I rather hope to one day experience something with even the most remote resemblance to normalcy.

 

[Kahoku]

Again, I doubt this is just a furry thing. It's hard to grow up, after all. You move out of your parents' house, all of the sudden you start having to take care of bills, rent, groceries, cooking, cleaning, all while maintaining some kind of income so you don't lose your ability to pay for all of those things. Some people take it harder than others and feel a need to just give up, go let someone else take care of them for a while like their parents used to. This happens in a lot of societies to a lot of people. Hell, maybe it's even the original idea behind the 'rite of passage'... to force kids to become adults and recognize that now its their turn to start contributing to society. We don't have any rite of passage in America, really, so some people just feel a need to stay a kid for longer. And that's okay as long as they eventually grow out of that. The people who don't are the rightwing argument against social security.

Anyway, ambitions... I mean, I'm in the process of fulfilling them right now. In another year I'll have passed my qualifiers and started work on a PhD in astronomy. Once I earn that, I'll have contributed something new to the field of astronomy and I can start selling my expertise to people who want it. I suppose the ultimate point of pride for me would be to come up with a clever method or an equation or something that lots of people can use to further their research. You know... to write one of those papers that hundreds if not thousands of people end up having to cite. That would pretty damn cool.
Oh, and it'd be cool if I ended up making a bit of money off my novel, but I think the other one is more realistic and exciting.

But also remembering its not the end of the world, because everyone has to pay bills sometime helps relieve that stress a bit.

My ambitions? I want to run my own business someday soon, and to do that I am moving once again to a better location to do so.
I am working harder at my job to make sure I do the best I can, so then I succeed more everyday. I want to have my own home someday, and not rent anymore.

 

[Fenrari]

Well you should thank them, they're confessing their attraction for you. :V

I'm quite flattered when people say they are attracted to me. It's cute. (most of the time) And then you get those individuals who are so socially inept that that the "I want to be your pet." comes out to "I want to female rape you."

I rather hope to one day experience something with even the most remote resemblance to normalcy.

What defines normalcy? Is it the state of mind by which one does not question what happens? What fun is in a game in which every move can be calculated? The puzzle and the skill come from those able to plan ahead while tricking the opponent into thinking things that aren't happening.

 

[SirRob]

Even with a focus on persona's though. Ambition should be something we always have in the back of our minds that we work up to. Why the lack of it with furs?

Are you using 'should be' as 'is'? Because, even if it should be, it isn't for a massive amount of people.

 

[Onnes]

What defines normalcy? Is it the state of mind by which one does not question what happens? What fun is in a game in which every move can be calculated? The puzzle and the skill come from those able to plan ahead while tricking the opponent into thinking things that aren't happening.

I'm using the term in a different context than you realize. That being said, I have no further desire to elaborate upon my statement.

 

[Fenrari]

Are you using 'should be' as 'is'? Because, even if it should be, it isn't for a massive amount of people.

I fail to understand how anyone can just submit to the Fate. And while I haven't been the most aggressive person in my own day; It's mind boggling that people would just sit around and do nothing when they could achieve something for themselves.