Byron
Moshi Moshi, Byron Desu~
I am an American, a Texan no less, and I cannot stand deep fried food. Anything that has been battered and submerged in boiling oil makes me instantaneously nauseated. Fried catfish and hushpuppies is my idea of culinary hell.
Totally. Monsanto et al are basically 500 super Hitlers. I think this is where Rassah and I can start disagreeing again...
GamingGal
Member
And the fact that Monsanto will sue farmers who try to reuse seed >.> I hate Big Pharma and Big Food. We've given the things that keep us alive over to corporations. May God have mercy on us.
Agreed. Be it the steriods and antibiotics in meat/dairy animals or the pesticides in food, all of it needs to go. There is no chain for it to filter down so it's less concentrated when it gets to us. It's just injection and then us. We're practically embalming ourselves for the grave.
Byron
Moshi Moshi, Byron Desu~
I don't like it either, but you can't farm enough food that way. Too many humans.
GamingGal
Member
Actually, we could. If we stopped mass producing meat the way we do and converted some of those disgusting factory farms and fecal ponds into fields again, we could put QUITE a big dent in the issue of starvation.
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Deleted member 82554
Guest
Then what we need is a good ol' war, or some other cloak and dagger campaign to justify human extinction and the freeing up of resources. Of course, that seems to be a formula us humans are very good at - so I am being semi-serious.
Kosdu
Member
I believe farming in more healthy manner would be easily functional IF we stop eating waaaaaay too much meat and crops that just aren't that efficient, and stop wasting food.
I'll let Jon Oliver Explain: http://youtu.be/i8xwLWb0lLY
Do watch it, please.
I'll let Jon Oliver Explain: http://youtu.be/i8xwLWb0lLY
Do watch it, please.
Rassah
Well-Known Member
I don't believe in "intellectual property" and think it's a stupid, government-made-up concept that only propagates monopolies, and thus Monsanto is the devil, so we agree on that point. You can probably start disagreeing with me about IP though.
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Deleted member 82554
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Well, I heard that Monsanto genetically modifies their seeds so they can patent them, because food is the one thing that you cant legally own. Of course, that was just a rumor.
grassfed
Indica Dominant
You gotta be kidding. These methods of farming and permaculture are far more sustainable, keeps the soil healthy and produces more nutrient dense food. There will always be big farms using 'modern' growing methogs to supply supermarkets with your average crap produce but more and more people are becoming concerned with where their food comes from and how its grown/processed. Organic farms are on the rise and backyard/community gardens have the capability to produce more than enough. The problem is people dont want to learn these more in-depth methods of organic gardening or do the work to make it happen.
GamingGal
Member
Totally agree. If we stopped trying to over-mass-produce this subpar food, which isn't going to fix hunger cause it's lacking in nutrients, and focus instead on organic farming and tending to the land, we could solve a lot of the issues we're facing. Look at polyculture. Instead of stripping a field of it's nutrients by throwing one crop type at a time on it, plant multiple crops on it. A lot of the times the crops will work with each other. I saw a guy who had fruit trees/bushes, but had other produces growing beneath them and it worked phenomenally because they supported each other. You know, how ecosystems do....
Filter
ɹǝʇlᴉℲ
Americans come from all over the world, and our culinary options reflect this. Italian food is quite popular here! How well you eat will largely depend on how well you can handle the variety. Fruits and vegetables are cheap and plentiful, but so is junk food. Make healthy choices and you'll be fine.
American food is just as unhealthy as any other cuisine. You choose if you let it get you obese or not.
I eat at a fast food restaurant less than once a month. Most people I know only regularly go to one fast food restaurant, Bojangles', to get biscuits in the morning, and that's only if they don't care to make their own biscuits or ran out of leftover ones.
I'm not totally sure about fruits and vegetables, but I think the price is pretty fine around here. Most single fruits and vegetables are under one dollar, unless sold by weight, and you can usually get more of those than you can sodas, snack cakes, or other junk with the same amount of cash as far as I have experienced. Around here, peaches, apples, okra, various peas, plums, corn, watermelons, pumpkins and a whole host of other fruits and vegetables are especially cheap when in season.
You're missing out if you dread American food. Cornbread, pulled pork, pecan pie, red velvet cake, and livermush are just a few things I can think of that I see regularly that are delicious, especially if homemade. Even though delicious usually means you'll get fat off of it, you just have to moderate what you eat with how active you are. I eat barbeque, pork chops, and chilli normally at least once every week and I'm as thin as a twig.
If you're worried about GMOs, you could probably find better information in papers than you can with random people on this forum.
The fact is that most people who don't buy foods labelled organic in any industrialized country are likely buying foods that, at some point, have been genetically modified. Unlike some people against GMOs would like you to believe, though GMOs are widespread, we havn't had a Skynet level uprising of mutant tomatoes spreading death like we spread tomato sauce.
I eat at a fast food restaurant less than once a month. Most people I know only regularly go to one fast food restaurant, Bojangles', to get biscuits in the morning, and that's only if they don't care to make their own biscuits or ran out of leftover ones.
I'm not totally sure about fruits and vegetables, but I think the price is pretty fine around here. Most single fruits and vegetables are under one dollar, unless sold by weight, and you can usually get more of those than you can sodas, snack cakes, or other junk with the same amount of cash as far as I have experienced. Around here, peaches, apples, okra, various peas, plums, corn, watermelons, pumpkins and a whole host of other fruits and vegetables are especially cheap when in season.
You're missing out if you dread American food. Cornbread, pulled pork, pecan pie, red velvet cake, and livermush are just a few things I can think of that I see regularly that are delicious, especially if homemade. Even though delicious usually means you'll get fat off of it, you just have to moderate what you eat with how active you are. I eat barbeque, pork chops, and chilli normally at least once every week and I'm as thin as a twig.
If you're worried about GMOs, you could probably find better information in papers than you can with random people on this forum.
The fact is that most people who don't buy foods labelled organic in any industrialized country are likely buying foods that, at some point, have been genetically modified. Unlike some people against GMOs would like you to believe, though GMOs are widespread, we havn't had a Skynet level uprising of mutant tomatoes spreading death like we spread tomato sauce.
SliverWithShadowWolf
Lynn Wolf
Eh, some of it is. They also put a lot of food colouring in their doors also.
Argonne
Why worry
Yeah it's true but you can eat healthy...a lot of people will say gmo doesn't matter but Im allergic to all grains and get sick from most foods I eat it to stay alive that's it.. Food isn't a happy thing for me, my mother went to about 8 doctors before they figured out what was wrong, her and I are allergic to almost everything, the doctors traced it to genetic modifications, she can't eat rice,corn ,wheat, any milk products grape fruit,oranges,lemons,limes,some tomatoes,and a few other things...and even soy makes her and I sick if we eat enough of it... So you don't really have to avoid gmo but if you can find organic eat that, I'm assuming your from Europe you might get sick from the gmo here, because your body won't be used to it,.....humans should be more careful when messing with things we don't quite understand. This is hurting a lot of people and they can't figure it out. Hope this helps just buy the healthy stuff and you'll be fine.
Argonne
Why worry
And have sued and destroyed farmers who "accidentally" end up with their wheat. But that's also just a rumor.
Argonne
Why worry
you can't reuse gmo food, and I'm not into conspiracy at all, but if you replant gmo most of the crops won't take and the ones that do are actually toxic as far as I can tell, so if say one day the economy collapsed, there will be no grains that will be edible
The FDA requires all GMOs, just like any other food, to be tested for new allergens and toxins, and no GMOs have been found to contain allergens or toxins their organic counterparts do not have. This is because most allergens and toxins are proteins the plant produces and severe changes to these go beyond what the genetic engineers intend to do.
Your doctors could not likely have directly traced it to genetic modifications if it is an allergy or toxin.
If they have, I'd like to know how they did it, as your doctors are some kind of science superheroes if they were able to do that with what they have available.
The FDA would want to know how they did it, as whomever produced and grew the GMOs you ate are breaking federal law, and they are somehow creating even more allergens in the plants that people are already really, really, really likely to have allergies to. The U.S. government considers knowingly doing that a biological attack, and will classify it further based on why they did it.
But, really, could you inform me how they connected these already common allergies to GMOs?
Rassah
Well-Known Member
Some of the claims here, like about mass grown food having lower nutrients, or being toxic, seem really outlandish. Do you guys have actual sources to back that up that don't come from naturalnews.com? Generally GMO, aka selective breeding, foods are bred to be stronger, require fewer resources to survive, and be more nutritious, sometimes providing nutrients that the original version of the crop didn't even have.
Byron
Moshi Moshi, Byron Desu~
I'll give it a shot: I think an artist who makes a living off of his work should be able to legally defend it from unauthorized reproduction and sale. I also understand that the copyright system is rife with abuse somehow, but I don't care that much and didn't pay attention.
More nutrient dense food... Which is eaten by insects and destroyed by disease and fungus. The goal isn't nutrition or flavor, unfortunately, the goal is crop yield. Copper sulfate and boric acid are great, but Round-Up®™ is the only thing effective enough at this scale.
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