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Anthro vs Furry??

Frank Gulotta

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I say: I'm flipping tired of seeing ignorant morons either calling Anthros animals, beasts, creatures, Furries, animals w Human traits or being Furry, as all of these are just plain wrong and hella disrespectful. Anthros are Anthros and can only be classified as Anthros. Period. Point. Blank.
It was a pointless nitpick five years ago, necroing it is merely adding an extra level to it. Shame on you
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
Welp, if you don't like the discussion content, then you should've stayed away, because simply saying that it makes you mad isn't going to solve or prove anything. Also, it's a civil discussion over the usefulness and correctness over a word. You're the only one typing angrily.
I dunno, awhile back you were talking about furries minding their own business. Sounds pretty angry to me--

Listen here, hun bunch. You seem like the type who hides behind a wall of logic and reasoning, yet all the while, using those things to rationalize YOUR OWN feelings.

If thats really the case, you're a gatekeeper and a blowhard. You're not really fooling anybody. If you don't like the word, you don't like it. But don't act like you are at the top of some kind of pedestal just because you took a class in logic one time in high school.
 
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O.D.D.

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Eh. And so is your anger towards other people's opinion. Get over it.
I mean, you were getting kind of testy over it. Careful with those stones, that house of yours looks a little glassy.

Like I said, it's not a hill worth fighting to the death over. As long as you can figure out what someone's talking about at any given time communication was at least marginally successful, the finer details aren't something one should be sweating about.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
I mean, you were getting kind of testy over it. Careful with those stones, that house of yours looks a little glassy.

Like I said, it's not a hill worth fighting to the death over. As long as you can figure out what someone's talking about at any given time communication was at least marginally successful, the finer details aren't something one should be sweating about.
Thats exactly my point. Trying to tell people what language they can use in a fandom is so fucking gatekeepy. It aint it.

Heck, this dude is also trying to tell me the feelings I can and cannot express now just because it seems like he doesn't find it to be in his liking. Where did this guy even come from.
 
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O.D.D.

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Where did this guy even come from.
It's the Internet, this is strangely kind of normal on the Internet. I can only guess at why, and it'd be a waste of time to agonize over it. I have never seen anyone really change their mind and alter their behavior over an Internet argument, which just makes you wonder why Internet arguments are so common. In general there's this weird notion people have that if you yell at someone angrily enough that will make them change course, and that really doesn't work that well in my experience.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
Agreed. This argument has become pointless, like the people above. You say one thing people don't agree with and they start to throw hissy fits.
More like-
When someone says your opinion is shitty, your first response is to tell them they are illogical. Lol.
Go ahead on with that, discount, off-brand, copyright neutral Spock. You're goofy as hell and its funny to me.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
It's the Internet, this is strangely kind of normal on the Internet. I can only guess at why, and it'd be a waste of time to agonize over it. I have never seen anyone really change their mind and alter their behavior over an Internet argument, which just makes you wonder why Internet arguments are so common. In general there's this weird notion people have that if you yell at someone angrily enough that will make them change course, and that really doesn't work that well in my experience.
Lol, youre right.

I heard a saying awhile back that outrage is like a feast. It's a lot of fun to be angry. However, nothing comes of it. Usually, the main course at the feast is you.

The internet is definitely the place for pointless outrage.
 

Blood_Shift

Banned
Banned
Lol, youre right.

I heard a saying awhile back that outrage is like a feast. It's a lot of fun to be angry. However, nothing comes of it. Usually, the main course at the feast is you.

The internet is definitely the place for pointless outrage.
That it is.
 

BigFuzzyBenji

*Hugger*
For myself personally, "Furry" is a word used to describe someone who meets one criterion; they either do or can, envision themselves as anthropomorphic animals. Those people for whom their Fursona is an extension of their personality, an avatar to represent themselves, or an idea of who they'd like to be.

I think there is a substantial difference between liking Bugs Bunny, and literally envisioning yourself as a fellow cartoon rabbit.

Anthro, short for anthropomorphic, just means humanized non-human characters. However, at this point, it is interchangeable with furry, but generally when speaking to someone at least sem-familiar with the concepts in the community. Basically, if you're talking to a furry or someone who "gets" furries, then anthro can be interchanged without consequence. If used in conversation with someone unfamiliar, the word would be taken literally and not convey the meaning you intend.
 
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O.D.D.

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I think there is a substantial difference between liking Bugs Bunny, and literally envisioning yourself as a fellow cartoon rabbit.
There used to be a verbal distinction ("funny animals" was parlance for characters like Bugs) but eventually "furry" became a catch-all to describe "funny animal fans", people who got deeper into the anthropomorphic aspect to the point of having more "serious" and less "cartoony" aspects to their art, and people who just flog their dolphin to any of the above. In the end I find the distinctions/labels pretty pointless aside from the cache of "pornhound" the furry label has acquired, which some people understandably would rather not hang around their necks.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
There used to be a verbal distinction ("funny animals" was parlance for characters like Bugs) but eventually "furry" became a catch-all to describe "funny animal fans", people who got deeper into the anthropomorphic aspect to the point of having more "serious" and less "cartoony" aspects to their art, and people who just flog their dolphin to any of the above. In the end I find the distinctions/labels pretty pointless aside from the cache of "pornhound" the furry label has acquired, which some people understandably would rather not hang around their necks.
Can I say that I like your euphenisms? A+. Joy to read.

There is a conversation to be had about the public's perception of the furry fandom in general. But it can be summed up as "that weird girl in high school who liked anime and thought she was a cat".

I for one, appreciated my local anime cat girl. I think she's a great example of living your truth, and I hope she's kept that energy into adulthood.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
I'm not the one who never gives evidence to defend their opinion on why they're correct.
I'd also like to add, mister logical fallacy, that you cannot 'defend' an opinion.

Opinions are not facts. They are not correct or incorrect. However, opinions can be informed-- thats why we have folks with PhDs walking around. However, actual educated people ALWAYS have more questions then 'opinions'. Their knowledge stems from the fact that they can ask great questions.

This 'you have to have proof for your opinions or I am going to deem it to be illogical' bullshit is silly. It's goofy. It's pseudo-intellectualism through and through. Actual smart people can see through that shit. You're telling on yourself.

Logic even isn't the stand all be all of thought. All your logical rationalizations go out of the window if the premise you start with is trash. If you're starting premise is that, "I think furries need to mind their own business and I'm going to bully them into using a different word," then...???
You sound like a clown.
 

Blood_Shift

Banned
Banned
I'd also like to add, mister logical fallacy, that you cannot 'defend' an opinion.

Opinions are not facts. They are not correct or incorrect. However, opinions can be informed-- thats why we have folks with PhDs walking around. However, actual educated people ALWAYS have more questions then 'opinions'. Their knowledge stems from the fact that they can ask great questions.

This 'you have to have proof for your opinions or I am going to deem it to be illogical' bullshit is silly. It's goofy. It's pseudo-intellectualism through and through. Actual smart people can see through that shit. You're telling on yourself.

Logic even isn't the stand all be all of thought. All your logical rationalizations go out of the window if the premise you start with is trash. If you're starting premise is that, "I think furries need to mind their own business and I'm going to bully them into using a different word," then...???
You sound like a clown.
Says they one who's still replying as opposed to letting it lie. Simply put, you have your opinion, and I have mine. It's a discussion, clown.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
Says they one who's still replying as opposed to letting it lie.
Says the one who hides behind fallacies when people call them out on their bullshit.
 
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O.D.D.

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Says they one who's still replying as opposed to letting it lie. Simply put, you have your opinion, and I have mine. It's a discussion, clown.
You don't get to hide behind "bro leave it I just have an opinion" when you are attempting to assail others' opinions. Play by your own rules or go sit and spin. I don't expect you to be anything but consistent and you can't even manage that, and that makes you not worth any more time.
 

Blood_Shift

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Banned
Says they one who's still replying as opposed to letting it lie.

Says the one who hides behind fallacies when people call them out on their bullshit.
You're the one upset last time I checked. I'm just here to state a opinion.
You don't get to hide behind "bro leave it I just have an opinion" when you are attempting to assail others' opinions. Play by your own rules or go sit and spin. I don't expect you to be anything but consistent and you can't even manage that, and that makes you not worth any more time.
Assail other people's opinion? Yet you're the one who can't accept me disagreeing with your point of view. How useless.
 

PercyD

Lover of Beasty Baes
You're the one upset last time I checked. I'm just here to state a opinion.

Assail other people's opinion? Yet you're the one who can't accept me disagreeing with your point of view. How useless.
Lol, there ya go again--
"YOU'RE UPSET SO YOU LOSE!"
Haha, discount Spock strikes again.

Your opinion is trash. Your premise is recycling at best. We disagree with you AND you're wrong. The way you're trying to justify yourself is just straight up clownish. I'd just as much respect your opinion if you were just like "I think this shit is dumb".

But no, you have to go and try to make yourself out to be superior because you can... *checks notes*
(Poorly) rationalize your shitty opinions with logical fallacies. Okay, sure homeskillet.
 

Blood_Shift

Banned
Banned
Look at you, all riled up. You get upset over a person's opinion, regardless of whether or not it's of sound mind. As opposed to speaking calmly and trying to understand whatever they're speaking on, you call them trash, their opinion/s trash and that they're acting like clowns. And then... Homeskillet, that's a new one. Also, I'm not swearing at you, so why swear at me? Even if my opinions are stupid and sound stupid, shouldn't you demonstrate some form of self-restraint? Oy, another debate turned into a argument.
 
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