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Anthro vs Furry??

Jackpot Raccuki

Vibing Raccuki
I just don’t see how this is a big deal, anthro just means a being was made to have a more anthro appearance, and furry is just a fandom.
Anthro is just used on furries because well, anthro animals.

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Blood_Shift

Banned
Banned
I was a huge Sonic mark as a kid, from the very first release. As someone who considers themselves a huge fan, I was pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Worth checking out for sure.
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I just don’t see how this is a big deal, anthro just means a being was made to have a more anthro appearance, and furry is just a random.
Anthro is just used on furries because well, anthro animals.


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Troj

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dino Therapist
I've been cringing at the clickbait articles recently that have hooted about how Australia "accidentally" commissioned fursonas/furry art for the Olympics---cringing because these media outlets probably think they're being edgy and cool, but they're just revealing that they're desperately out-of-touch (and horny to boot).

Nothing says "I'm in middle school!" like announcing to the world that you just figured out that anthro animal characters are furries and furries are anthro animal characters. Nothing says "The pervert is actually me!" by announcing to the world that the Australian Olympic Committee has egg on their faces because you think sexy thoughts when you see a cartoon kangaroo lift weights. :D

Next they'll tell us that Avatar: The Last Airbender "accidentally" created anime, ROFLMAO, Nickelodeon must be sooooooo embarrassed.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
I've been cringing at the clickbait articles recently that have hooted about how Australia "accidentally" commissioned fursonas/furry art for the Olympics---cringing because these media outlets probably think they're being edgy and cool, but they're just revealing that they're desperately out-of-touch (and horny to boot).
Like, I get that it would be mildly amusing if someone in the organization went to a random freelance or agency illustrator and went "hey, we want a cartoon kangaroo mascot for the Olympics, k?" and it turns out they unknowingly went to a furry. But it's not, like... mainstream newsworthy. At most it's something that'd be a fun curiosity to note on a furry "news" outlet or WikiFur or whatever.

(I've also heard claims that they didn't go to a furry illustrator, but did happen to provide some fandom art among the pieces in their "so this is the general type of thing we're looking for" brief. I'm not going to claim to know what the case here is; I'm just remarking on the generals.)
 

Nexus Cabler

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Just my thoughts on it here, but I see "anthro" as a more technical term, that can apply to almost all furry characters, by it's definition.

I would consider the word "furry" to be a description that implies an identity or connection with the furry fandom.

The words are very similar in usageg, so I wouldn't say one is good or bad to the other.
 
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Troj

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dino Therapist
Like, I get that it would be mildly amusing if someone in the organization went to a random freelance or agency illustrator and went "hey, we want a cartoon kangaroo mascot for the Olympics, k?" and it turns out they unknowingly went to a furry. But it's not, like... mainstream newsworthy. At most it's something that'd be a fun curiosity to note on a furry "news" outlet or WikiFur or whatever.

(I've also heard claims that they didn't go to a furry illustrator, but did happen to provide some fandom art among the pieces in their "so this is the general type of thing we're looking for" brief. I'm not going to claim to know what the case here is; I'm just remarking on the generals.)

Apparently, the illustrator doesn't self-identify as a furry, and has expressed a stronger personal interest in anime---but, they've been very kind and gracious around the whole "furry issue," from what I've seen.

It makes perfect sense that a reasonable person would gravitate to the best examples of furry art when looking for or wanting to create a furry character, duh.

So, yeah, this a nothingburger for clicks, and anyone who is actually informed about these topics will see the kerfuffle as manufactured and ridiculous.
 

Yakamaru

Woof? Woof
..This actually a thing people argue over? Sheesh.

Talk about having too much spare time..
 

Blood_Shift

Banned
Banned
I've been cringing at the clickbait articles recently that have hooted about how Australia "accidentally" commissioned fursonas/furry art for the Olympics---cringing because these media outlets probably think they're being edgy and cool, but they're just revealing that they're desperately out-of-touch (and horny to boot).

Nothing says "I'm in middle school!" like announcing to the world that you just figured out that anthro animal characters are furries and furries are anthro animal characters. Nothing says "The pervert is actually me!" by announcing to the world that the Australian Olympic Committee has egg on their faces because you think sexy thoughts when you see a cartoon kangaroo lift weights. :D

Next they'll tell us that Avatar: The Last Airbender "accidentally" created anime, ROFLMAO, Nickelodeon must be sooooooo embarrassed.
But only when it's confirmed a Furry actually drew the art.
 

VolatusArts

Disaster [Volatus Arts]
Now, this may get a little weird, as I'm not good with words. Never been my strong suit, but I'm not trying to offend anyone, and I hope you can get what I mean based on the other side, OP and others. Forgive me if I misspeak, let me know how I can correct any terminology, but again, I don't mean to speak in a way that will hurt anyone or offend anyone.:
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I personally don't identify as a furry. I just don't believe I am in the lifestyle enough. And really, most my sonas are feral babies or some anthros who I draw for venting, uplifting or otherwise my own, enjoyment purposes. I know other who also say their anthro characters do not define them as a furry, and their primary commissions are refs of anthro commissions for people who do identify as furry.

Whether you believe that I am in denial or what, I believe this is our choice on what label, if we choose to use one, and how far we want to go into the fandom.

As for the comparison to Looney Tunes in the earlier threads of this topic, I do not believe Looney Tunes has furries in it, more so classic anthros with a twist (more so just an artist's point of view, but the debate could make me rethink it. SpaceJam in particular. The style is very furry-isk. Not a bad thing, just honestly, does seem like an art change from the original cartoons, but there were new artists added.).


Drawing any anthropomorphic animal shouldn't downright label someone as a furry, in my opinion. That's not to say I'm insulted to be called a furry. On the contrary, I am honored to be a part of this community, although I don't personally identify as a full out furry. I have had people who have called me furry, which is fine. I take pride, as I said, in any community I stand in, whether fully or not. Those who have called me a furry even for feral work, however, just showed their ignorance for being so demeaning towards a loving community who accepts almost anything (within reasoning). At one point, I did think I was going to label myself as a furry, but I just personally feel as though I'm an artist with a tendency to love the furry art style vs anthro for my characters if I do draw them upright than so much the lifestyle.

Another thing, I would call myself a furry, but I don't think I deserve the title, either. I cannot buy a fursuit, nor would I have the courage to wear it. Takes a lot of guts, and honestly, with my anxiety, especially with how hateful people can be, I'd be shaken up with any little altercation. Right now, off my pills, you can blow on me, and I'll rattle. I'm a mess. Other members? So strong, so proud and not afraid of it. Wearing their cute suits with pride. I couldn't call myself a full furry and have shame in my heart like that when someone scolds me, and I know I would because I am a child at heart who cannot help but cry a little when scolded. Just wouldn't seem fair to the community I represent. . .


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Maybe others can also testify, but I love the art style of furry animals vs some anthros. Much more cartoony, expressive and I love it.
I just personally cannot say I'm a full furry when I feel as though I cannot represent the full lifestyle and pride of the label.


Others may have different reasons, but these are mine.




Now Edit: Are they the same? Sort of. Anthropomorphic is just anything with human qualities, it's just the style in how you draw it. I do draw my art as furries. I just cannot identify as a furry, as I feel like I'd be misrepresenting a wonderful community. So yes, you're not wrong to say anthros are furries and furries are anthros. But for commission sakes, if the artist has a whole list like this:
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May wanna choose the right one, i.e furry or anthro.

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Again, I know this maybe still may not make sense to some of you, but those are my reasons. I ask for no hate. None of this was supposed to upset anyone, and if I can reword it or change this to make sense and not hurt anyone, please do let me know how. I just wanted to say why I personally think this way, and why I may not want to label myself as something to not further upset anyone.
 
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Foxridley

A fox named Ridley
Now, this may get a little weird, as I'm not good with words. Never been my strong suit, but I'm not trying to offend anyone, and I hope you can get what I mean based on the other side, OP and others. Forgive me if I misspeak, let me know how I can correct any terminology, but again, I don't mean to speak in a way that will hurt anyone or offend anyone.:
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I personally don't identify as a furry. I just don't believe I am in the lifestyle enough. And really, most my sonas are feral babies or some anthros who I draw for venting, uplifting or otherwise my own, enjoyment purposes. I know other who also say their anthro characters do not define them as a furry, and their primary commissions are refs of anthro commissions for people who do identify as furry.

Whether you believe that I am in denial or what, I believe this is our choice on what label, if we choose to use one, and how far we want to go into the fandom.

As for the comparison to Looney Tunes in the earlier threads of this topic, I do not believe Looney Tunes has furries in it, more so classic anthros with a twist (more so just an artist's point of view, but the debate could make me rethink it. SpaceJam in particular. The style is very furry-isk. Not a bad thing, just honestly, does seem like an art change from the original cartoons, but there were new artists added.).


Drawing any anthropomorphic animal shouldn't downright label someone as a furry, in my opinion. That's not to say I'm insulted to be called a furry. On the contrary, I am honored to be a part of this community, although I don't personally identify as a full out furry. I have had people who have called me furry, which is fine. I take pride, as I said, in any community I stand in, whether fully or not. Those who have called me a furry even for feral work, however, just showed their ignorance for being so demeaning towards a loving community who accepts almost anything (within reasoning). At one point, I did think I was going to label myself as a furry, but I just personally feel as though I'm an artist with a tendency to love the furry art style vs anthro for my characters if I do draw them upright than so much the lifestyle.

Another thing, I would call myself a furry, but I don't think I deserve the title, either. I cannot buy a fursuit, nor would I have the courage to wear it. Takes a lot of guts, and honestly, with my anxiety, especially with how hateful people can be, I'd be shaken up with any little altercation. Right now, off my pills, you can blow on me, and I'll rattle. I'm a mess. Other members? So strong, so proud and not afraid of it. Wearing their cute suits with pride. I couldn't call myself a full furry and have shame in my heart like that when someone scolds me, and I know I would because I am a child at heart who cannot help but cry a little when scolded. Just wouldn't seem fair to the community I represent. . .


Summary:
Maybe others can also testify, but I love the art style of furry animals vs some anthros. Much more cartoony, expressive and I love it.
I just personally cannot say I'm a full furry when I feel as though I cannot represent the full lifestyle and pride of the label.


Others may have different reasons, but these are mine.



Now Edit: Are they the same? Sort of. Anthropomorphic is just anything with human qualities, it's just the style in how you draw it. I do draw my art as furries. I just cannot identify as a furry, as I feel like I'd be misrepresenting a wonderful community. So yes, you're not wrong to say anthros are furries and furries are anthros. But for commission sakes, if the artist has a whole list like this:
main-qimg-22809d913d78547995abd2e98c1b0a37

May wanna choose the right one, i.e furry or anthro.

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Again, I know this maybe still may not make sense to some of you, but those are my reasons. I ask for no hate. None of this was supposed to upset anyone, and if I can reword it or change this to make sense and not hurt anyone, please do let me know how. I just wanted to say why I personally think this way, and why I may not want to label myself as something to not further upset anyone.
While I can see the logic in this (i.e. is it a person with animal attributes or an animal with human attributes?), one notion I disagree with is that the difference between "Furry" and "not furry" comes down to the anatomy of the character, and even something as trivial as whether they have plantigrade or digitigrade feet. It seems very superficial.

I count myself as a furry, even though my fursona is feral.

I really think it has more to do with the intentions of the artist/creator than with superficial things like character design.

For instance, Fox McCloud would count as a furry character under the classification given above. But if someone draws fanart of him, not because he's a fox, but because they like the Star Fox or Smash Bros games, I wouldn't count that as furry art.

If a furry artist draws him out of the appeal of him being a fox, that likely count as furry art.
 

VolatusArts

Disaster [Volatus Arts]
While I can see the logic in this (i.e. is it a person with animal attributes or an animal with human attributes?), one notion I disagree with is that the difference between "Furry" and "not furry" comes down to the anatomy of the character, and even something as trivial as whether they have plantigrade or digitigrade feet. It seems very superficial.

I count myself as a furry, even though my fursona is feral.

I really think it has more to do with the intentions of the artist/creator than with superficial things like character design.

For instance, Fox McCloud would count as a furry character under the classification given above. But if someone draws fanart of him, not because he's a fox, but because they like the Star Fox or Smash Bros games, I wouldn't count that as furry art.

If a furry artist draws him out of the appeal of him being a fox, that likely count as furry art.
Furry in art vs anthro is what I meant. Anthros are different, refer to the image above. Furry as a lifestyle, if you choose to label yourself as such, feral OC or not, sure, you're a furry.

It all depends on context, in all honesty. Are we talking about your label to the community or how the character is supposed to be drawn?
 

Foxridley

A fox named Ridley
Furry in art vs anthro is what I meant. Anthros are different, refer to the image above. Furry as a lifestyle, if you choose to label yourself as such, feral OC or not, sure, you're a furry.

It all depends on context, in all honesty. Are we talking about your label to the community or how the character is supposed to be drawn?
And I mean in art as well. What I'm saying is, whether the art (or character) is furry or not depends on the intentions of the artist and/or creator of the character in creating it, rather than the details of the character design.

My fursona is feral, but since he was created by a furry for use in the furry community, he is a furry character and art of him is furry art.
 

Kinguyakki

Alignment: Chaotic Stupid
Definitions within the fandom are going to be more specific.

It's probably not a good idea to try to have lengthy conversations to "educate" people who aren't necessarily interested in the fandom, because it just comes off as kind of weird and they're really not going to care about it enough to learn anything.

Within the fandom, there's no real point in debating over what the correct terminology for "furry" or "feral" or "anthro" is. Just have fun with it.
 

VolatusArts

Disaster [Volatus Arts]
And I mean in art as well. What I'm saying is, whether the art (or character) is furry or not depends on the intentions of the artist and/or creator of the character in creating it, rather than the details of the character design.

My fursona is feral, but since he was created by a furry for use in the furry community, he is a furry character and art of him is furry art.
I can respect this, even if I, myself, still would like a commissioner to be a little more exact. But yes, if you define your character as a furry and he is a feral, call him what you wish. It is truly what you are comfortable with.
 

Ex-Sketch

New Member
Hello! Found this page in some googling about the topic and decided to make an account to chime in.

To me, Furry in this context has 2 meanings.
1 - The art or creation. An Anthropomorphized animal of some kind.
2 - The person. Someone who considers themselves a furry.

So yeah, "Anthro" can mean anything. You can make an Anthropomorphized Storm like Cloudy Jay or Anthropomorphize a concept like time or space. It just means giving something not human traits that are human.
To me, Furry-1 is just the catch-all for Anthropomorphized Animals (regardless of fur) or Animal like beings. No art style or skeletal anatomy rules need to apply. Some styles and anatomy are more popular within the subculture, but the core concept is simply "Anthropomorphized Animals/ Animal like things". Bugs Bunny and Mickey are anthropomorphized animals, so they fall under that term. Fictional creatures like Minotaur also fall under that term.

As for the person part, it's simple to me. A Furry is someone who takes up that title. You don't have to go to cons or have a fursona or do fur suits or look for yiff or w/e. But in that same note, I don't really think you can tell someone that they are a furry. I couldn't tell someone they're a Trekky just because they watched 1 Star Trek movie and even if someone watched all the seasons of all the series and all the movies because they enjoy Sci-fi ... they may not consider themselves a Trekky and that's fine.
Your connection and engagement to these types of fandoms as well as what you want to go by is wholly personal.

So yeah, IMO furry as it relates to art/ creation/ depictions is just another word for "Anthropomorphized animal of some kind". As such, it has a lot of overlap with a lot of other fandoms and such.
One does not have to consider themselves "Furry" to make furry art or like things that fall under that term.

This has been my Ted Talk.
 
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