NekoFox08
Lux Aeterna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWtWwN6HATk
I doubt anyone here besides me is into astrobiology, but here ya go
I doubt anyone here besides me is into astrobiology, but here ya go
anyone into finding life outside earth?
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Tycho
Guest
Sure, I'm all for finding extraterrestrial life. I've always wanted alien love slave girls, like Twi'lek dancing chicks.
NekoFox08
Lux Aeterna
ah... ahem, I was thinking more like sharing cultures and technology, therefore possibly being able to travel in mass relays, and instantaniously warp to other planets... but uh, yours works just as good (only mine would be uh, slaveboys ^_^)
KalebFenoir
The Commissar
I rather hope there's other life out there. Otherwise, it's a real waste of space out there. No other life than our little mudball would make me think the Universe settled for very little.
Monak
IN HOC SIGNO VINCES
I can tell you with out a shadow of a doubt that there is life out there , think about it this way , if there have been millions and millions of species on our one little planet which is relativly young then there is no way we are alone , chances are most quite a few races out there are far beyond anything we could imagine.
KalebFenoir
The Commissar
Precisely. The idea that there's no other life is almost unimaginable. In fact, it'd be horrifying.
Hybrid Project Alpha
It's what's for dinner
Ah yeah, the WOW signal
Shà nwà ng
Lavender Scented
If there were extraterrestrial life and it were intelligent life, I'd like to indulge myself in learning about their political and social structure.
AlexInsane
I does what I says on the box.
The idea that there is life in our universe? Possible.
Unfortunately, travel outside our own solar system is sadly limited, and the data we gather from probes we shoot into space is minimal.
Anyway, any life we found would promptly be engaged in warfare for the mineral resources they no doubt have.
Unfortunately, travel outside our own solar system is sadly limited, and the data we gather from probes we shoot into space is minimal.
Anyway, any life we found would promptly be engaged in warfare for the mineral resources they no doubt have.
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Tycho
Guest
WE REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS! NOT ENOUGH MINERALS!
Azure
100% organic vegan hubbas
OBLIGATORY YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS COMMENT...
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Tycho
Guest
Hey, if AlexInsane wasn't deliberately setting up for a Starcraft joke, I'm Sasquatch. It was dangling there, like a ripe fruit on a tree...
Foxie299
Member
The trouble with extra terrestrial life is the time. Sure, there's probably other life out there, but what are the chances of it existing in the same few thousand years of us, and crossing the millions of light years in those thousands of years, and finding our rock ... The 'ands' go on and on and on. Odds are stacked against us, peeps.
But the Earth is beautiful -- a tiny, wonderful jewel given to us by those same improbable odds. Nothing wrong with looking and hoping, but lets not lose sight of what we already have.
But the Earth is beautiful -- a tiny, wonderful jewel given to us by those same improbable odds. Nothing wrong with looking and hoping, but lets not lose sight of what we already have.
Azure
100% organic vegan hubbas
Hey, I'm a plucker of sorts
. And yes foxie, I think that our planet is a geological marvel. Water in this quantity must be incredibly rare, just look at the other planets. Also, the concentration of heavy elements on this planet allowed us to create insane things. Planets that support this form of life are rare indeed. It would be interesting to see what forms of life evolved outside of the kind, accomodation properties of carbon.
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Monak
IN HOC SIGNO VINCES
Lets look at this from another angle , our star is roughly 5 billion years old , it only took 1.2 billion years for earth to form , then it took another 3.6 billion for us to show up. Going on the best guess that our universe is 13 billion years old and that the rate of cooling before stars formed was about 3 billion years after the bang , so that means that there are star systems with three billion years on us. Now lets say that the average galaxy has a population of 1% inhabited planet systems , you still end up with 800,000,000 planets supporting some form of life , now lets say 1% of that falls into the goldie locks zone , then you are left with 8 million planets that have taken roughly the same process of developement as Earth. So there are roughly 8 million planets out there with a chance of having life equal to us , and a 40% chance of that life being anywhere from 1 million to 5 billion years more advanced then us.
Foxie299
Member
where:
N is the number of civilizations in our galaxy with which communication might be possible; and
R* is the average rate of star formation in our galaxy
fp is the fraction of those stars that have planetsne is the average number of planets that can potentially support life per star that has planets
fâ„“ is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop life at some point
fi is the fraction of the above that actually go on to develop intelligent life
fc is the fraction of civilizations that develop a technology that releases detectable signs of their existence into space
L is the length of time such civilizations release detectable signals into space.
The number of stars in the galaxy now, N*, is related to the star formation rate R* by
where Tg is the age of the galaxy. Assuming for simplicity that R* is constant, then N* = R* Tg and the Drake equation can be rewritten into an alternate form phrased in terms of the more easily observable value, N*.[2]
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Nah, I don't understand, either. But astrophysicists seem to take it seriously.
Also helped Gene Roddenberry get Star Trek commissioned. There's something to Google if you're bored
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NekoFox08
Lux Aeterna
wow... heh, I'm a bit surprised that my thread did somewhat successfull =^_^=
anyway, I think we should be getting to the point to where we don't say "IF there is life", and start saying, "there IS life". we don't have all the proof in the world because we searching not even .1% of out galaxy (if you didn't catch that, I put a dot in front of the 1 XD) for alien life form. say BEST case scenario, we manage to have searched our entire galaxy... think about it. we just finished searching OUR galaxy... out of the billions and billions of other galaxies.
I like to put in this way. how long would it take to walk from one end of the earth, to the other? how long would it take to get from one planet to another? how long would it take to get from our planet, to pluto? THEN how long would it take to get from the milkyway, to another of the billions of galaxies? X3 it's truly amazing!
we just need patience... ahem* roughly thousands of years worth of patience... but still XD
we WILL find life outside our solar system
anyway, I think we should be getting to the point to where we don't say "IF there is life", and start saying, "there IS life". we don't have all the proof in the world because we searching not even .1% of out galaxy (if you didn't catch that, I put a dot in front of the 1 XD) for alien life form. say BEST case scenario, we manage to have searched our entire galaxy... think about it. we just finished searching OUR galaxy... out of the billions and billions of other galaxies.
I like to put in this way. how long would it take to walk from one end of the earth, to the other? how long would it take to get from one planet to another? how long would it take to get from our planet, to pluto? THEN how long would it take to get from the milkyway, to another of the billions of galaxies? X3 it's truly amazing!
we just need patience... ahem* roughly thousands of years worth of patience... but still XD
we WILL find life outside our solar system
Azure
100% organic vegan hubbas
It's a nice mudball
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KalebFenoir
The Commissar
Well maybe not as astronomical as you might think. I mean, even though WE are currently bound to the inner solar system (excluding damned robot probes), we've so far mapped out what, 275....320 or so extrasolar systems? Some with the potential to have rocky inner worlds? If we can manage to develop a new telescope design that permits us to focus in past the glare of the parent star, we might start seeing our neighbour worlds.
And on the flip side... if some of THOSE systems are the ones with intelligent life, perhaps on par with our level of tech or higher... don't you think they might have already spotted us, much the way we spotted them? If we can find nearly 300 systems, and who knows how many worlds, with our relatively 'simple' tech (we don't even use exotic technology yet, since it doesn't yet exist, or exists in experimental designs), then there's nothing against THEM being able to see US.
'Course, the Distance is the thing that's a real killer... no way around that one unless one of us starts snapping the continuum like a whip to see if we can get somewhere in under a lifetime. XD Otherwise, it's time to build those colony ships. (which, I feel, we should be doing anyway, given the fact that the smallest mistake on our part on our world could destroy modern civilization. XP Like, say, flipping the wrong switch at a powerstation)
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Tycho
Guest
My brain hurts so bad right now.
I'm going to find one of these astrophysicists and get him to translate this to stupid-layman-ese for me.