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Are the furry stereotypes true?

Butters Shikkon

Patron Saint of Queers
I didn't wear blacklipstick or piercings, in fact my school had a uniform so we all dressed exactly the same,

Oh, Fallow, you didn't have to dignify that part with a response...I just laughed at the "fitted in" part. XD

So, on topic: This thread is kinda've a wierd one to me. Are stereotypes true? Seems some ppl believe they are in part. Hmmmm.

Let's just say for the sake of agrument that I believe all chestnuts are lazy...it's not a popular stereotype, but one I (for the purpose of this thread) believe. If there is truth behind all stereotypes then they must be. Even if its one I just made up.

Get a job, you deadbeat castaneas!!!!
 
Oh, Fallow, you didn't have to dignify that part with a response...I just laughed at the "fitted in" part. XD

So, on topic: This thread is kinda've a wierd one to me. Are stereotypes true? Seems some ppl believe they are in part. Hmmmm.

Let's just say for the sake of agrument that I believe all chestnuts are lazy...it's not a popular stereotype, but one I (for the purpose of this thread) believe. If there is truth behind all stereotypes then they must be. Even if its one I just made up.

Get a job, you deadbeat castaneas!!!!

I believe that some stereotypes about furries are true. Like how they are gay. Most furries are gay. But if someone hates furries because they are gay than that's just homophobic and that will backfire on them.


I do not believe that most furries are into yiff. Some of them, yes, but not all.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I believe that some stereotypes about furries are true. Like how they are gay. Most furries are gay. But if someone hates furries because they are gay than that's just homophobic and that will backfire on them.


I do not believe that most furries are into yiff. Some of them, yes, but not all.

Conversely a majority of furries aren't 'completely homosexual' [not sure if the gay stereotype includes bisexuality etcetera?] whereas a majority have some form of sexual interest, although mild interests seem to be much more popular compared to avid interests when individuals are asked to rate their level of interest out of 10, there's 20% who say '1' which I assume means no interest and the other 80% generally decrease towards '10'.

[referencing furry survey and wikipedia]

I'd say of all the stereotypes these are probably the most accurate, which I suppose makes them more irritating for individuals who don't fall in one or either of those catergories.
 
Conversely a majority of furries aren't 'completely homosexual' [not sure if the gay stereotype includes bisexuality etcetera?] whereas a majority have some form of sexual interest, although mild interests seem to be much more popular compared to avid interests when individuals are asked to rate their level of interest out of 10, there's 20% who say '1' which I assume means no interest and the other 80% generally decrease towards '10'.

[referencing furry survey and wikipedia]

I'd say of all the stereotypes these are probably the most accurate, which I suppose makes them more irritating for individuals who don't fall in one or either of those catergories.

Where did you see these at? Wikipedia says 2002 (I think?) time has changed.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Where did you see these at? Wikipedia says 2002 (I think?) time has changed.

I referenced the furry survey 2012. http://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey.php I appreciate asking individuals 'how important is sex' is ambiguous, as it does not necessarily imply yiff, though from other sources the general implication seems to be 'a majority of furries have some form of fetishistic interest, more often mild than extreme,'.

The reason this stereotype, although having more weight to it than others, creates friction is that some outsiders percieve it to be 'all furries have an extreme fetishistic interest,', rather than 'a significant portion have a mild or moderate interest'.

[this is even the case intra-fandom according to the survey, as it seems furries are more likely to consider other fans more sexual than they are themselves]
 
I referenced the furry survey 2012. http://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey.php I appreciate asking individuals 'how important is sex' is ambiguous, as it does not necessarily imply yiff, though from other sources the general implication seems to be 'a majority of furries have some form of fetishistic interest, more often mild than extreme,'.

The reason this stereotype, although having more weight to it than others, creates friction is that some outsiders percieve it to be 'all furries have an extreme fetishistic interest,', rather than 'a significant portion have a mild or moderate interest'.

[this is even the case intra-fandom according to the survey, as it seems furries are more likely to consider other fans more sexual than they are themselves]

So what is this saying? o:
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
So what is this saying? o:

Most furries like yiff at least a little bit, but stereotypes probably exaggerate this.

I've personally a sneaking suspicion that in the same fashion people who constantly bash gays are more likely to be homosexual themselves- and they're projecting their own dissonance, that outsiders who are keen to exaggerate the prominense of yiff in the fandom are probably more likely to be projecting an interest they have themselves.

I think that's the case with lots of groups, that outsiders who identify project that interest onto the group to test the reaction of their peers. [this is only my personal suspicion though]
 
Most furries like yiff at least a little bit, but stereotypes probably exaggerate this.

I've personally a sneaking suspicion that in the same fashion people who constantly bash gays are more likely to be homosexual themselves- and they're projecting their own dissonance, that outsiders who are keen to exaggerate the prominense of yiff in the fandom are probably more likely to be projecting an interest they have themselves.

I think that's the case with lots of groups, that outsiders who identify project that interest onto the group to test the reaction of their peers. [this is only my personal suspicion though]

I see now...


To be honest I think the reason of this is because the majority of furries are in their 20's or even younger, and let's face it, you know how college kids can be when it comes to sex.


The info I learned from this is quite interesting. If you have anymore feel free to tell. O:
 
Most furries like yiff at least a little bit, but stereotypes probably exaggerate this.


I've personally a sneaking suspicion that in the same fashion people who constantly bash gays are more likely to be homosexual themselves- and they're projecting their own dissonance, that outsiders who are keen to exaggerate the prominense of yiff in the fandom are probably more likely to be projecting an interest they have themselves.

I think that's the case with lots of groups, that outsiders who identify project that interest onto the group to test the reaction of their peers. [this is only my personal suspicion though]

I don't really think so. I find myself in a similar position when I see fat fetish groups on DeviantArt. I simply think it's tacky, thoughtless, and gross. I truly have no interest in drawing crude images of fat women with food dribbling all over themselves. I find it repulsive. It's easy for me to sympathize with people who feel that way towards furries. I often feel that way about them myself, even though I'm already a member of the fandom.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I don't really think so. I find myself in a similar position when I see fat fetish groups on DeviantArt. I simply think it's tacky, thoughtless, and gross. I truly have no interest in drawing crude images of fat women with food dribbling all over themselves. I find it repulsive. It's easy for me to sympathize with people who feel that way towards furries. I often feel that way about them myself, even though I'm already a member of the fandom.

I was only speculating a probability, a single anecdote would neither prove or disprove this. In any case projection isn't traditionally conscious, not that I'm claiming you personally have any interest in groups you are compulsively disgusted by.
 
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Elim Garak

Guest
I referenced the furry survey 2012. http://www.klisoura.com/ot_furrysurvey.php I appreciate asking individuals 'how important is sex' is ambiguous, as it does not necessarily imply yiff, though from other sources the general implication seems to be 'a majority of furries have some form of fetishistic interest, more often mild than extreme,'.

The reason this stereotype, although having more weight to it than others, creates friction is that some outsiders percieve it to be 'all furries have an extreme fetishistic interest,', rather than 'a significant portion have a mild or moderate interest'.

[this is even the case intra-fandom according to the survey, as it seems furries are more likely to consider other fans more sexual than they are themselves]
The conclusion of this survey:
Fandom is pretty much a sausage fest.
Most of them would go balls deep with the same gender.
Most of them are Anarchists(Non-conformists in the back seat of their mothers minivan, or against big corp while sipping starbucks).Also dayum, I expected more Authoritarians like me.
Some of them really want to become the other gender or the inbetween option.
Most of them are teens, lots of kids as well so it seems.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
On the subject of the stereotype that all furries are fursuiters and that all fursuiters enjoy fursuit sex, I think this is a prime example of the projection I mentioned earlier.

If you ask people who do not identify themselves as furry a large number have considered the eroticism of dressing up or behaving like an animal for sexual reasons, afterall animalistic interpretations of sexuality exist in abundence outside the fandom in the general population.
Hence I think when people hear about furrydom they identify with this aspect most readily because it's already familiar to them and represents burried interests quite a lot of people outside the fandom actually have, whereas it's not as intuitive to identify the diversity of other reasons why furries are involved in the fandom or consider that if all furries really did sculpt an identity, community, art costume, even a lifestyle etcetera all for the soul purpose of sex that they'd need an average labedo the size of mars. x3
 

Harbinger

The Last of Us.
I never really see furries outside of the internet, i even though none existed in the UK lol.
From a couple of clips here and there like TV shows just an emphasis on fursuiting and making us look wierd.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I never really see furries outside of the internet, i even though none existed in the UK lol.
From a couple of clips here and there like TV shows just an emphasis on fursuiting and making us look wierd.

I thought there were none- or very very few- in the UK too then BAM I found out there were several in my local area. It just seems that they were all secretive too- now that's a stereotype which could be applied with a small error margin.
 

j'skar

New Member
I've seen a video too. I think it was on MTV. I can't remember. It's a shame they didn't even watch it. They went straight to saying "OMG SICK FUCK GO KILL YOURSELF LOL". It's saddens me for people to be so closed minded.

well thats mtv, and i hate that channel because all of the people are total douche bags on every show.
what you said happened doesn't surprise me, the shows are retarded and they all include a bunch of douche bags.
 
I'm surprised to see so many Minnesotans! Guess it makes sense, what with that horrible cold and all! Pardon my joking about, if you kindly would.
 

Serrion

New Member
Most furries like yiff at least a little bit, but stereotypes probably exaggerate this.

I've personally a sneaking suspicion that in the same fashion people who constantly bash gays are more likely to be homosexual themselves- and they're projecting their own dissonance, that outsiders who are keen to exaggerate the prominense of yiff in the fandom are probably more likely to be projecting an interest they have themselves.

I think that's the case with lots of groups, that outsiders who identify project that interest onto the group to test the reaction of their peers. [this is only my personal suspicion though]

If I read that correctly, what you're saying is that someone who bashes "X idea" because popular belief says that "X idea" is weird/scary/perverted/whatever, is really trying to cover an interest in "X idea" because peer pressure says that if you agree with "X Idea" you're weird/scary/perverted/whatever.
I personally believe that while there may be furries who fit the stereotype, that a majority do not and therefore the stereotypes about furries are not true for a large portion of the fandom. Think about FA for a second. Which are you more likely to remember?
A) a decently drawn, non-adult rated image of [Insert species here
or
B) a well drawn (say the equivalent of Jacques Louis David) pornographic image of [Insert same species here] that's "right up your alley" in interests?
This isn't to say that there aren't any good furry artists that don't draw porn, but that both outsiders and even certain furries are more likely to remember something that interests them than a decent image of something that doesn't and thus those furries who take the survey could possibly think that the fandom is more about porn/yiff than it really is.
(Sorry if you got lost in my typed out thoughts)
Here's another question, what do you first think of when you think of FurAffinity (other than furries)?
 

SiLJinned

Member
Sometimes I wonder if FA needs an 18 or older entrance page.

That won't work. People will still lie their age. I mean come on, who really goes "OH, I must be 18 or older, better go press the back button and come back until I'm 18!". It's more like "I'm curious as hell and I want to see anyway, so then I click past and look in terror, even though my eyes burn I can't stop looking at it" or "I know what sex is already, I don't need to be at least 18 to acknowledge it". Except if you're at work/school, it's likely they'll go past it anyway.
 

Leyland

New Member
Stereotypes usually come from the few who call attention to themselves. And, honestly the furry fandom doesn't get that much media coverage. It's a weird thing that most people who don't come from the internets don't know anything about. The small amount of coverage it does get usually gravitates toward the bad side of the fandom cause that's deemed a better story. It's easier to exploit.
 

Rilvor

Formal when angry
Stereotypes usually come from the few who call attention to themselves. And, honestly the furry fandom doesn't get that much media coverage. It's a weird thing that most people who don't come from the internets don't know anything about. The small amount of coverage it does get usually gravitates toward the bad side of the fandom cause that's deemed a better story. It's easier to exploit.

The simple truth is that no one cares about the next way nerds pass their time. It's a question of newsworthiness.
 
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Sar

Guest
please let me use exactly no brain power to think about that....

No.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
If I read that correctly, what you're saying is that someone who bashes "X idea" because popular belief says that "X idea" is weird/scary/perverted/whatever, is really trying to cover an interest in "X idea" because peer pressure says that if you agree with "X Idea" you're weird/scary/perverted/whatever.
I personally believe that while there may be furries who fit the stereotype, that a majority do not and therefore the stereotypes about furries are not true for a large portion of the fandom. Think about FA for a second. Which are you more likely to remember?
A) a decently drawn, non-adult rated image of [Insert species here
or
B) a well drawn (say the equivalent of Jacques Louis David) pornographic image of [Insert same species here] that's "right up your alley" in interests?
This isn't to say that there aren't any good furry artists that don't draw porn, but that both outsiders and even certain furries are more likely to remember something that interests them than a decent image of something that doesn't and thus those furries who take the survey could possibly think that the fandom is more about porn/yiff than it really is.
(Sorry if you got lost in my typed out thoughts)
Here's another question, what do you first think of when you think of FurAffinity (other than furries)?

Yes
In addition I'm referencing psychological projection. It's a documented behaviour by which people project elements of themselves onto others: If you criticise a trait of test subjects they will percieve that trait more strongly in others whilst failing to recognise the trait in themselves. The test subjects have effectively projected the criticism away from themselves.
This appears to be the case in many accusations of promiscuity or perversion in my view. Perhaps psychological projection or 'scapegoating' explains why the world's dominant religions often solve their moral problems with sacrifices of animals or people who others can project their feelings of inadaqaucy onto.

I'm more likely to remember B), both us humans and our fellow primates prefer violent or sexual images. I agree with what you're saying, more sensationalist and 'extreme' behaviour is much more distinct and recogniseable than muted or more subdued behaviour.

Other than furries Furaffinity makes me think of artists trolls and teenagers.
 
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