are there any straight edge furs on this site?

[Captain Howdy]

Uh, no. I don't like the taste of alcohol itself. Specially vodka. If I wanted to feel my throat burning I'd gargle more razorblades. Even when I did force myself to drink (mostly fruity drinks, which at least get to mask most of the taste of alcohol), it was absolutely no fun and I found out I don't need alcohol to talk to people. Simply put, I have more fun sober than drunk/stoned. And I don't like noisy environments or places with lots of people, so I don't go to loud parties where you usually find all three things straight-edge people don't like.

Am I boring? Granted, I wouldn't be your first choice to take to a rave. But give me something to rant about and I'll probably cause a few sides to split (specially if they're drunk or stoned!). I just like wit and wordplay too much to enjoy not caring about either.

I'm not sure how it is over there, but here people don't go out drinking harmlessly. They go to bars to get hammered.

Yeah, that's why my whole post talked about mixing it. You can get a pretty good buzz going without ever tasting the vodka given the mix I suggested above. I don't do the bar or party scene either, but I guess I enjoy things a lot more when inebriated, especially with just friends at a kickback People are different that way.

If you lose your wit and wordplay that much when drunk or high, then you might've done too much

Not trying to go demand you get shitfaced and high as a kite, buuuut trying to find a good balance could be worth it - Though it's probably not worth the money in general >.>

 

[Rilvor]

Everyone is "straight edge" up until they either turn 21 or taste Jägermeister for the first time. Whichever comes first.

 

[Holtzmann]

Not trying to go demand you get shitfaced and high as a kite, buuuut trying to find a good balance could be worth it - Though it's probably not worth the money in general >.>

Thing is, I tried. Didn't like it, not doing it again.

You can't miss out on something you don't enjoy. I have all the fun I need sober, no need to waste the money, brain cells or hepatic capacity on more.

 

[Vukasin]

Straight-edge people boggle my mind. It's about moderation and responsibility, not cutting yourself off from good times and somewhat healthy experiences.

Implying you need drugs, alcohol and promiscuous sex to have a good time...

But I guess everyone has a different opinion on what they think is a "good time".

 

[Vaelarsa]

Pretty much "straight edge" person I've encountered was either too young for drugs / alcohol to be readily available to them, in the first place, or too poor to afford it.

I don't lump people in that simply have a calm disinterest in the substances as being "straight edge," either.
To me, straight edge fuckery is about being a self-righteous, annoying little shit that bitches about how morally superior they are to another person, just because said person enjoys using a substance responsibly.

 

[Captain Howdy]

Implying you need drugs, alcohol and promiscuous sex to have a good time...

But I guess everyone has a different opinion on what they think is a "good time".

Oversimplifying and completely missing what I'm directly stating. You can have a good time without inebriation, I did for 20 years, but things can be better with things like weed and alcohol in moderation. Especially the former. Never laughed my ass off harder, enjoyed movies and cartoons more, or tasted such amazing flavours without weed...It's literally some of the direct effects within the chemicals of the brain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeF6rFN9org

Alcohol is a different story, being it's a depressant, but it typically involves or somewhat improves socialization when taken in moderation, which provides a better time.

 

[Batty Krueger]

"straight edge" is a concept that is popular within punk culture that pretty much means you abstain from drugs, alcohol, and promiscuous sex. i have yet to meet another straight edge fur, and very few punks. are you a punk or straight edge? i am curious to see how many there are here

You're an idiot. SE has nothingto do with punk.

 

[Toshabi]

You're an idiot. SE has nothingto do with punk.

Now that wasn't very kind! When someone has a small flaw within their argument, it is always nice to kindly tell them that they are mistaken in what they've said and explain why they're wrong. You've also forgotten to include evidence to support your objection! Oopsies! It'd be very nice and kind for everyone inside of this thread (especially the person you're objecting too!) if you can elaborate on your objection a bit more, that way we can clear up any confusion that was caused by your clashing point of views.



Thank you very much for your time! ^_^

 

[Dreaming]

"straight edge" is a concept that is popular within punk culture that pretty much means you abstain from drugs, alcohol, and promiscuous sex. i have yet to meet another straight edge fur, and very few punks. are you a punk or straight edge? i am curious to see how many there are here

What..... no

WHAT

PEOPLE LIVE LIKE THAT? That sounds like some terrible form of torture

 

[Rilvor]

Pretty much "straight edge" person I've encountered was either too young for drugs / alcohol to be readily available to them, in the first place, or too poor to afford it.

Ever met a "straight edge" person that has worked hard labor (freight, construction, etc.) for 30+ hours a week? Yeah, me neither.

 

[Holtzmann]

Oversimplifying and completely missing what I'm directly stating. You can have a good time without inebriation, I did for 20 years, but things can be better with things like weed and alcohol in moderation. Especially the former. Never laughed my ass off harder, enjoyed movies and cartoons more, or tasted such amazing flavours without weed...It's literally some of the direct effects within the chemicals of the brain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeF6rFN9org

I'm happy you can enjoy those things responsibly. Of course, not everybody can or want to do that. And as long as no one gets annoying/harmful about it in either direction, it's all in good fun. Hell, I tend to have a hell of a good time when my friends are drunk or stoned (even if I had to develop a pretty good technique for supporting staggering people). Since I'm invariably sober (and nope, I'm not the designated driver) I tend to get asked all the questions the next day. Oh, the times I laughed my ass off hearing them saying "I did what?", "I said what?!" and "I was hitting on who?!".

... and then there's my friend who routinely showed up drunk as a skunk at ten in the morning back when I was in university. He usually did that on tuesdays. Dude developed a serious case of cirrhosis and had a minor stroke after a couple years of that. Sigh. Yeah, I have an issue with slippery slopes, I'll freely admit it.

Alcohol is a different story, being it's a depressant, but it typically involves or somewhat improves socialization when taken in moderation, which provides a better time.

And this is an cool little factoid about alcohol. It's a neuronal depressant in the sense that it depresses brain function, and it does it to different parts of the brain depending on the dose. The first part to soak up and slow down? The part responsible for social behavior and judgment, which ironically means the euphoria comes from a "depressant".

And speaking of judgment impairment, here's another line I heard a couple times! "Hold my beer and watch this!", usually followed by a quick pause while I fetched the nearest first aid kit.

 

[AxM]

I guess I am. I abstain from drugs and promiscuous activity. I read the wiki page for straight-edge, and I have to admit that I am not that intense though.
So I guess my straight edginess is in the eye of the beholder : > I'd like to think I am though.

 

[Ikrit]

Everyone is "straight edge" up until they either turn 21 or taste Jägermeister for the first time. Whichever comes first.

hello

still "straight edge" here
mainly becuse i don't want to do that stuff

 

[Hinalle K.]

Alcohol and drugs are for lowlifes!

 

[Xaerun]

Hey look people ragging on somebody for being straight edge, that's new and interesting, and what vices others have or do not have is definitely worth going on about.
Also how much does Twilight suck right guys? Hahaha


(Keep the bullshit posts to yourself, gang. Goes for the straightedge folk as well.)

 

[Ozriel]

Now that wasn't very kind! When someone has a small flaw within their argument, it is always nice to kindly tell them that they are mistaken in what they've said and explain why they're wrong. You've also forgotten to include evidence to support your objection! Oopsies! It'd be very nice and kind for everyone inside of this thread (especially the person you're objecting too!) if you can elaborate on your objection a bit more, that way we can clear up any confusion that was caused by your clashing point of views.



Thank you very much for your time! ^_^

As much as I think you are broken Toshabi...
He is right?
Toshabi, are you on crack?

 

[Kazooie]

I need to work on bending my edge a bit ):

 

[BRN]

But why?

Why is there a culturewhich prides itself on missing out on experiences? Can someone explain that to me; like -- what? Why even would it make sense to not learn, for yourself, why you want to avoid those substances and then actually make an informed decision? Is this some kind of seld-destructive anti-learning experience or are prople these days just so genuinely irreconiciliable with 'thinking for themselves' that they follow a label -- possibly the only label in existence that identifies itself with not having personal experiences of things it rebukes? aaaaa

 

[Kazooie]

But why?

Why is there a culturewhich prides itself on missing out on experiences? Can someone explain that to me; like -- what? Why even would it make sense to not learn, for yourself, why you want to avoid those substances and then actually make an informed decision? Is this some kind of seld-destructive anti-learning experience or are prople these days just so genuinely irreconiciliable with 'thinking for themselves' that they follow a label -- possibly the only label in existence that identifies itself with not having personal experiences of things it rebukes? aaaaa

I am pretty sure humanity has always centered itself around the pillars of:
1) Shame in all things enjoyable
2) Trying new things is risk. Risk is bad.

 

[Toshabi]

But why?

Why is there a culturewhich prides itself on missing out on experiences? Can someone explain that to me; like -- what? Why even would it make sense to not learn, for yourself, why you want to avoid those substances and then actually make an informed decision? Is this some kind of seld-destructive anti-learning experience or are prople these days just so genuinely irreconiciliable with 'thinking for themselves' that they follow a label -- possibly the only label in existence that identifies itself with not having personal experiences of things it rebukes? aaaaa

But why not? Some people find these "experiences" you mention to be unnecessary in their lives and aren't worth taking a "risk" for. How can you fault these people? Perhaps they have an understanding of themselves to the point where they know they'll take things too far in terms of hard partying, drugs and sex! A lot of problems stem from people taking such experiences to extremes along with having those pleasures get in the way of a professional career or education.

Unless they're flaunting it in your face (this thread being an exception to this), why would you ever frown upon such a lifestyle, especially when these pleasures aren't essential (and can sometimes lead to trouble) to living life? After all, what's the worst that can happen other than one less drug OD, one less pregnancy/std or one less college drop out? ^_^

 

[Fox_720B]

But why?

Why is there a culturewhich prides itself on missing out on experiences? Can someone explain that to me; like -- what? Why even would it make sense to not learn, for yourself, why you want to avoid those substances and then actually make an informed decision? Is this some kind of seld-destructive anti-learning experience or are prople these days just so genuinely irreconiciliable with 'thinking for themselves' that they follow a label -- possibly the only label in existence that identifies itself with not having personal experiences of things it rebukes? aaaaa

I don't think I'd walk around calling myself straight edge as a sort of label or whatever because labels can also have the effect of making someone else feel you're rubbing your preferences in their face. And for me that's all it is, a preference. that said, I've had first had experiences with the things that I don't necessarily partake in, anyway, for the most part. So it's an informed decision. Likewise, some decisions are made based on what I feel would be right for me. But it's my own choice and I live and let live with people whose choices are different from mine.

For example, I grew up in a family that smoked and I made the choice that smoking wasn't something I personally wanted to do. I don't drink because I don't care to, but I will occasionally have one with friends if I feel like it. I don't sleep around for many reasons though, first and foremost my own personal health as being promiscuous also brings with it certain risks of infection, but also because I personally find it more satisfying to do that with someone i actually have feelings for than just the random fuck. These are just things I know about myself, so it's how I live my life. If you enjoy being promiscuous, more power to you. If you enjoy pot or drinking, whatevs. A few of my friends like to hang at the bar. Sometimes I join them. They don't care if I only have one. I often am the DD anyway, and there's nothing wrong with being in the position to aid a friend who's so drunk they're making trouble for themselves.

Our lifestyle choices are entirely ours to make, and as long as you aren't rubbing yours in someone else's face or trying to force other people to think feel or believe the way you do about certain things, most of the time, people won't give a fuck if you yourself don't partake. It's people coming across as holier than thou that pisses most people off.

 

[Vukasin]

Ever met a "straight edge" person that has worked hard labor (freight, construction, etc.) for 30+ hours a week? Yeah, me neither.

Hello.

I worked hard labor for an excavation company doing 5 full time days a week, adding up to 40 hours per week. Even more if I had to stay a couple more hours or work on weekends to finish a job up so that it could meet it's deadline.

 

[burakki]

I wasn't aware that such a term existed. I'm no punk, but I do stay away from all of these vices.

 

[Ozriel]

I wasn't aware that such a term existed. I'm no punk, but I do stay away from all of these vices.

I highly doubt it has anything to do it with punk subculture. it sounds like a term These guys would use.

 

[Captain Howdy]

As far as Straight Edge goes as a sub-culture, it has direct ties to the Punk scene...I have no idea why people are questioning that. Obviously, some religions have matching terms identical to Straight Edge, but the actual term and ideology within Punk come from:

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric....Minor-Threat/0904B222E447019D48256C540024FE78

Cheezits, you people ever hear of Google?