Are you sure you want to clear your messages? YES!
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Arshes Nei
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m2pt5 said:
Actually I requested it and yak implemented it (see code discussion forum), because it is next to the "remove all" for journals and such. I prefer having it up because sometimes things get accidentally clicked, and I'd rather have something to cancel out.
what 'remove all button'?
there's no destructive action on that page that can be done in one click. better would be to implement a trash system if people are worried about losing notifications. or an ability to toggle the view between all and unread only
although if we're keeping things simple, why not as simple as possible? if the button placement is identified as the problem, then the button placement is what should be fixed
there's no destructive action on that page that can be done in one click. better would be to implement a trash system if people are worried about losing notifications. or an ability to toggle the view between all and unread only
although if we're keeping things simple, why not as simple as possible? if the button placement is identified as the problem, then the button placement is what should be fixed
you mean I'm not the only one that is driven crazy by that?! :lol:
please make it optional, I can't stand it!
please make it optional, I can't stand it!
blackdragoon
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optional for the win. but i wish they would implement a trash emptying system for notes. when i delete a note it shouldn't still be there. methinks they should work on improving that before improving this myself arshes. as that is even more annoying.
Arshes Nei
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Well there is this:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/34891/
I had asked for the recent addition because quite honestly the setup for "remove all" is too close to the journal's remove all. Perhaps if the template was changed in a way where it was away from the journal one...like At very top of the message center with a "Select all" and "Remove all" at the bottom it would work.
Right now the tables are too close together. I like the check all at Top on DA's message center and the "Remove all" (In their case it's update message center) that works.
I'm sorry if the javascript annoys people, but there should be a solution that works for everyone?
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/34891/
I had asked for the recent addition because quite honestly the setup for "remove all" is too close to the journal's remove all. Perhaps if the template was changed in a way where it was away from the journal one...like At very top of the message center with a "Select all" and "Remove all" at the bottom it would work.
Right now the tables are too close together. I like the check all at Top on DA's message center and the "Remove all" (In their case it's update message center) that works.
I'm sorry if the javascript annoys people, but there should be a solution that works for everyone?
Well, I think this shows that just because one person might ask for something, that doesn't mean everybody wants it. It might be a convenience for the person who asked for it, but it's annoying to the rest of us.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving people little helpful options and stuff, but I really think that things like this should be optional. If you can give someone something they asked for without forcing it on people who don't want it, then sure, why not? That's cool of you guys. But if you're going to change something for everyone, you should try and see if everyone even wants it. It really seems like this thing annoyed more people than it helped, and I don't think it makes sense to grant a request to one person on the forum when it forces something on the other 29,999 users on the site without asking if they even want it or not. ;D
It doesn't seem like anybody else was having that much trouble telling the buttons apart, and I really don't think it's a proper solution to ask people to download some plugin that even the person who offered it can't guarantee us it won't mess stuff up.
Really, this seems like one of those 'wasn't broke, please un-fix it' things.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for giving people little helpful options and stuff, but I really think that things like this should be optional. If you can give someone something they asked for without forcing it on people who don't want it, then sure, why not? That's cool of you guys. But if you're going to change something for everyone, you should try and see if everyone even wants it. It really seems like this thing annoyed more people than it helped, and I don't think it makes sense to grant a request to one person on the forum when it forces something on the other 29,999 users on the site without asking if they even want it or not. ;D
It doesn't seem like anybody else was having that much trouble telling the buttons apart, and I really don't think it's a proper solution to ask people to download some plugin that even the person who offered it can't guarantee us it won't mess stuff up.
Really, this seems like one of those 'wasn't broke, please un-fix it' things.
there is, and i think you've suggested it in your postArshes Nei said:
my thing isn't tenable, logically or technically. me making something like this is more of a symptom than a solution. effectively my script is hastily undoing the hasty addition of a thing that isn't so hot in the first place.
besides which, it's useless for anyone using safari, opera, ie and people who don't want to install plugins just to squash a rogue dialog box
the problem you're having reflects a problem with the layout, and i'd wager it's not only the positioning of them, but the tiny size of them. the stupid things are rendered in a font size two steps below the broswer's default. fixing these would fix the lack of visual differentiation, and to improve it even further you could apply a colour or an icon, or even just bold face to the delete button. it's not a huge amount of effort for a web dev, maybe 2 or 3x that of jamming in a confirm() dialog (which is very little) and i think i clearer design will benefit not just people who've identified the problem, but people who never even thought it was a problem in the first place. it's possible to reduce accidental clicks through better design; we don't have to add another layer of tedium to both accidental and purposeful clicks alike
so, we could get most of the way just by touching up the design, and a trash system would take care of the remaining mistakes that slip by. something like that would be way less trivial than poking at the HTML, but web devs shouldn't just be considering the easy fixes. although it probably shouldn't be a priority
Arshes Nei
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Exactly, I asked for a confirm delete because it was one of the easier solutions, I know the other one takes a bit of a template arranging which isn't as hard. The thing is, I noticed most sites have a confirm deletion on it, though there is an option to turn it off - I believe yahoo has that option in user preferences or has a checkbox with it not to ask again, and stores a cookie for the option.
I wasn't sure how it was going to be implemented I was actually surprised it was done so fast as well.
The thing is, I tend to clear out journals first because well, you don't get an option to unwatch journals, so it's one of the biggest areas of the message center that fills up the fastest. There are people on my watchlist that make 2-5 journal posts in ONE DAY. I can't tell people how many journal posts they should make, and as watcher you're also caught in the dilemma of actually wanting to read a journal that isn't "spam" from a user. So even "optional journal watching" isn't perfect either lol.
I wish they'd take the "is watching" as well that was a forced option quite a few people didn't like either.
I wasn't sure how it was going to be implemented I was actually surprised it was done so fast as well.
The thing is, I tend to clear out journals first because well, you don't get an option to unwatch journals, so it's one of the biggest areas of the message center that fills up the fastest. There are people on my watchlist that make 2-5 journal posts in ONE DAY. I can't tell people how many journal posts they should make, and as watcher you're also caught in the dilemma of actually wanting to read a journal that isn't "spam" from a user. So even "optional journal watching" isn't perfect either lol.
I wish they'd take the "is watching" as well that was a forced option quite a few people didn't like either.
Right, if an option that isn't optional is tossed on, and more people complain than there were people asking for it, that seems like it should just be undone and a better solution worked out. That's what suggestion discussions should be for; not to just have people say yes or no, but for everyone to say what they do and don't like and come to a solution where EVERYBODY wins ^^
Arshes Nei
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Check the code discussion forum, the topic was already made if people paid attention.
Arshes Nei said:
Yeah, but I think it's been covered that hardly anybody on the site visits the forums because it gets kinda heated in here. And I don't think it's fair to say that people who don't come to that board don't get consideration. Maybe if the forums were made a bit more hospitable to people who don't want to just fight, then a higher number of users could be involved in these discussions.
Until that happens though, I really think that discussions about changes to the site should be made available ON the site itself somehow, so the majority gets to at least see what's going on.
And people can pay attention and still miss things, like accidentally clicking the wrong delete button. ^^
RE: Are you sure you want to clear your messages? YES!
It's not really because of the extra work, its just it gets annoying very quickly.
It would be like going to a retaurant and after you place your order they ask "are you sure that's what you want to order?" Not hard work to say yes, it just seems pointless and is annoying
Hanazawa said:
It's not really because of the extra work, its just it gets annoying very quickly.
It would be like going to a retaurant and after you place your order they ask "are you sure that's what you want to order?" Not hard work to say yes, it just seems pointless and is annoying
Hanazawa said:
Hey, so that's what everyone means by Straw Man. ^^
Come on though, can we please have a discussion without it being turned all angry and stuff by childish and unproductive sarcasm like that? "I don't like that you're complaining about this, so let me try and make you look dumb for doing so."
We're not being rude and typing out in all caps to try and make Arshes look ignorant for accidentally clicking the wrong select button and then the wrong delete button, so please don't take the discussion to that level. Honestly, it's getting old, isn't it? :3
Obviously, there's more people annoyed by it than not (or at least more people annoyed enough to speak up against it than were bothered enough to speak up for it), so please, please, PLEASE, don't take this down to that level, ok?
took the words right out of my mouth, Wolfie! 
Silverdragon00 said:
m2pt5 said:
QFT on both. And see, some people might consider his STFU to not be acceptable either, but he only said it in response to someone else's rudeness. Two wrongs don't make a right, but you really can't be too hard on the second wrong if it ONLY happened as a result of the first :
So maybe if we all tried to cut back on starting that sort of tone, there'd be less to complain about people complaining about it. ^^