AUP Update - Aug 27 (Minor Update)

[Dragoneer]

The AUP was updated with a minor edit. This is mostly a clarification as to the screenshots section which was not clear before.
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Updated
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Screenshots, 3D Renderers, Generators and Sprites

• Screenshots - Screenshots of web pages (e.g. Fur Affinity, Google), games (e.g. World of Warcraft, City of Heroes), desktops, programs or apps may not be submitted unless they contain original user created content. User created content, in this instance, does not include customizable characters or creations assembled using pre-created criteria (e.g. Spore) and/or programs where the user input is primarily adjusting values (e.g sliders, values, seeds).
• 3D Renderers - Pre-packaged/downloadable models may not be used as the primary focal point of a submission unless they contain significant modifications which would distinguish itself from the original model.
• Generators - Fractal and landscape generated artwork may be submitted provided they do not violate the Flooding Policy.
• Sprites - Sprites may be uploaded so long as they contain new, original content (e.g. no game rips, re-colors).

(Updated for clarity)

Original
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Screenshots, Generated Art, Renderers and Sprites
Screenshots of web pages, including Fur Affinity, as well as screenshots of desktops, programs, etc. may not be submitted.
Images which are pre-generated or contain computer generated content (e.g. game screenshots, etc.) May not be submitted. This includes customizable characters (e.g. Warcraft, Spore) or creations assembled using pre-created criteria and/or programs where the user input is primarily adjusting values (e.g sliders, values, seeds) and the computer then generates content.

• Renderers - Pre-packaged/downloadable models are not permitted as the primary focal point of a submission unless they contain significant modifications which would distinguish itself from the original model.
• Generators - Fractal and landscape generated artwork may be submitted, within reason, provided they do not violate the Flooding Policy.
• Sprites: Sprites, such as those ripped from games and/or modified sprites may not be uploaded as a submission. Sprites must be all new, original content.

 

[Mikau]

...there's a Flooding Policy?

 

[Dragoneer]

...there's a Flooding Policy?

Yes.

 

[hgryphon]

Dang, no Worgen flood next year?

 

[Kattywampus]

Prepare for a massive amount of deleted content.

 

[Chakat Stripedfur]

Ah, that's a relief. For a sec there, I thought you were doing a major overhaul, and I'd have to read several pages of legal text. =3

 

[Infinity]

Hooray! Hmm quick question... What about those animated type avatars that are kind of re-colors would they fall under the sprite editing thing? (Well... some are sprites and some aren't, meh confusing...)

 

[zc456]

Original
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Screenshots, Generated Art, Renderers and Sprites
Screenshots of web pages, including Fur Affinity, as well as screenshots of desktops, programs, etc. may not be submitted.
Images which are pre-generated or contain computer generated content (e.g. game screenshots, etc.) May not be submitted. This includes customizable characters (e.g. Warcraft, Spore) or creations assembled using pre-created criteria and/or programs where the user input is primarily adjusting values (e.g sliders, values, seeds) and the computer then generates content.

• Renderers - Pre-packaged/downloadable models are not permitted as the primary focal point of a submission unless they contain significant modifications which would distinguish itself from the original model.
• Generators - Fractal and landscape generated artwork may be submitted, within reason, provided they do not violate the Flooding Policy.
• Sprites: Sprites, such as those ripped from games and/or modified sprites may not be uploaded as a submission. Sprites must be all new, original content.

*sniffs the fresh air* Mmm.. the sweet smell of originality.

 

[Kimbyfox]

Prepare for a massive amount of deleted content.

i don't think people will even delete their stuff sadly... in fact they MAY just keep uploading D:

 

[chrislynx]

The AUP was updated with a minor edit. This is mostly a clarification as to the screenshots section which was not clear before.
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Updated
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Screenshots, 3D Renderers, Generators and Sprites

• Screenshots - Screenshots of web pages (e.g. Fur Affinity, Google), games (e.g. World of Warcraft, City of Heroes), desktops, programs or apps may not be submitted unless they contain user created content. This includes customizable characters or creations assembled using pre-created criteria (e.g. Spore) and/or programs where the user input is primarily adjusting values (e.g sliders, values, seeds).

Just to be clear: Does the word "This" refer to the word "Screenshots" or the phrase "user created content"?

In other words, is it saying that "customizable characters or creations assembled using pre-created criteria (e.g. Spore) and/or programs where the user input is primarily adjusting values (e.g sliders, values, seeds)" qualify as "user created content" that would make a screenshot acceptable?

I'm not trying to be super-picky, but that pronoun confused me in this context.

 

[dmfalk]

I wonder if anyone noticed that the UPDATED policy actually allows more freedom than the ORIGINAL version?

d.m.f.

 

[krisCrash]

Hooray! Hmm quick question... What about those animated type avatars that are kind of re-colors would they fall under the sprite editing thing? (Well... some are sprites and some aren't, meh confusing...)

If you submit them to the gallery they probably would, but as an avatar they're fine.

 

[Redregon]

tbh i give it a week, two weeks tops before this changes because of all the violations that will be pouring in.

yeah, i'm cynical... reason? the AUP wasn't uniformly enforced before, why should we expect it to be enforced now?

 

[Gavrill]

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Dragoneer]

Hooray! Hmm quick question... What about those animated type avatars that are kind of re-colors would they fall under the sprite editing thing? (Well... some are sprites and some aren't, meh confusing...)

Avatars we're not concerned about (if used *AS* an avatar). If you're posting it as a submission... that's another story.

Just to be clear: Does the word "This" refer to the word "Screenshots" or the phrase "user created content"?

It refers to screenshots. User created content is fine, but for all intents and purposes, creating a character in Spore or Champions Online doesn't qualify as original/user created (considering they're made using a character generator). If we allowed them, even as scraps, they'd contribute to overall system resources, of which we only have so many.

tbh i give it a week, two weeks tops before this changes because of all the violations that will be pouring in.

yeah, i'm cynical... reason? the AUP wasn't uniformly enforced before, why should we expect it to be enforced now?

We are working towards refining the AUP and site policies furthers to work towards uniformity. There will be some more changes to the AUP in September.

 

[Russano_Greenstripe]

So if I'm reading this correctly, you can't submit a screenshot of simply the terrain of Lordaeron or Icecrown, or other digital worlds. But if your character (which was originally created with player selected skins and decorations) is in the screenshot, then everything is fine, as long as you don't too it to much.

 

[Redregon]

We are working towards refining the AUP and site policies furthers to work towards uniformity. There will be some more changes to the AUP in September.

understood... guess i'll just keep my eyes on a bunch of users i know that ignore the AUP and ToS consistently.

though, what is the currently-in-place method for flagging submissions that are against the AUP? is it still "note the mods and hope they don't choose to ignore their job?"

reason i ask is that there have been users i've brought to the attention of the mod staff and they've done what they could to conveniently ignore the submissions in question. (by the by, is there a staff restructuring plan in mind?)

 

[Vitae]

So
What if I took a screenshot of my Spore creation, and then drew some pretty flowers around it, that would count because it has user generated content that does not include prepackaged parts.

In fact, I'll go do this now.

 

[Dragoneer]

So
What if I took a screenshot of my Spore creation, and then drew some pretty flowers around it, that would count because it has user generated content that does not include prepackaged parts.

In fact, I'll go do this now.

Awkward sentence noted. I updated the clause to be more concise as to what it covers. =)

 

[Firebreath]

3D Renderers - Pre-packaged/downloadable models may not be used as the primary focal point of a submission unless they contain significant modifications which would distinguish itself from the original model.

Please indicate to what extent "significant modification" means. Are we talking about just a texture change (Like so many do with Poser3D and Littledragon's Krystal model) or would it require actual modelling changes to the mesh in an of itself?
Also, would the addition of items (guns, swords, clothing, etc...) fall under "significant modification" or not, in the instance where a user would have modelled those items (which could be argued to be part of the "main focus" of the image, sharing said forcus with the character)?

 

[Armaetus]

Prepare for a massive amount of deleted content.

I can't wait for that.

Please indicate to what extent "significant modification" means. Are we talking about just a texture change (Like so many do with Poser3D and Littledragon's Krystal model) or would it require actual modelling changes to the mesh in an of itself?

I myself am tired of seeing that lame model being posted up in porno situations time after time after time...she is not the poster's material and frankly, yes..she's been used to death. Even the cheap recolors are not enough.

So
What if I took a screenshot of my Spore creation, and then drew some pretty flowers around it, that would count because it has user generated content that does not include prepackaged parts.

Note the word "Significant". I don't think a cheap 2 minute MSPaint scribble would count.

 

[chrislynx]

It refers to screenshots. User created content is fine, but for all intents and purposes, creating a character in Spore or Champions Online doesn't qualify as original/user created (considering they're made using a character generator). If we allowed them, even as scraps, they'd contribute to overall system resources, of which we only have so many.

Sounds good, thanks for the clarification.

 

[Firebreath]

I myself am tired of seeing that lame model being posted up in porno situations time after time after time...she is not the poster's material and frankly, yes..she's been used to death. Even the cheap recolors are not enough.

Well, being a 3D modeller/animator and somewhat of an amateur photographer at the same time, I honestly feel a lot of my work being cheapened by this issue. Where it takes me a few dozen hours to complete a model from start to finish (modelling, UV Mapping, texturing, rigging, effects, animation and then renders), I see those people churn out piece after piece of "art" without ever giving credits where it's due. To me, it's always been nothing short of what tracing is in the drawing world, and sickens me. :X
Pretty much why I'm asking a more specific definition of "significant modification" means here... and hope that the AUP will be more strictly enforced, too. :X

 

[Rigor Sardonicus]

So, when will SL crap be banned?

 

[Tzolkin]

-_- .... Maybe you ought to redo the AUP telling us what we -can- post. That'd be more helpful, and a lot shorter.