Battlefield 3

[Commiecomrade]

There's an older thread but I'm dead scared of necroposting.

Let's continue the discussion now that the beta is going to be released tomorrow for players who didn't pre-order the game (pre-orders got it already on the 27th).


My opinion: I expected the same huge vehicle-driven open-ish strategic world that BF2 was. The trailers are not promising. It looks like CoD to me. Here's hoping we can get more awesome gameplay like in BF2.

 

[Cain]

I'm just really pissed because I preordered BF3, ad yet the beta is not avaliable to the Middle East.


FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
well atleast I can look forward to my preorder of RAGE on the 5th!

 

[Delta]

Im in the early beta and I have to say OP Metro does not do the game justice at all.
The LAV was taken out of the level so its strictly infantry based on rush mode, anything but a throw back to BF2.
The rumor is that they're going to open up Caspian Border when the regular beta drops which is....now, but its not been confirmed.

There's a lot of nifty unlocks and the game is beautiful, but as a beta its buggy and really not as fun as I was expecting it to be. I was preparing to skip classes today to play it.
Nope. Its literally not worth it. Dont get me wrong, its fun, but not class-skipping fun.
They've left much to be desired.

 

[Cain]

Im in the early beta and I have to say OP Metro does not do the game justice at all.
The LAV was taken out of the level so its strictly infantry based on rush mode, anything but a throw back to BF2.
The rumor is that they're going to open up Caspian Border when the regular beta drops which is....now, but its not been confirmed.

There's a lot of nifty unlocks and the game is beautiful, but as a beta its buggy and really not as fun as I was expecting it to be. I was preparing to skip classes today to play it.
Nope. Its literally not worth it. Dont get me wrong, its fun, but not class-skipping fun.
They've left much to be desired.

Sounds the same as RO2's beta.

 

[Schwimmwagen]

That's because "beta" does not mean "demo" or "pre-release access" for the full game, yes, you are playing the game before it is released, but what you're playing in the beta is not reflective of the final product, at all. If there's stuff you hate, such as bugs, give the developers feedback. That's what this particular phase is for.

Anyway, I looked into BF3 and I hear that it's mostly a BC2 copy-pasted console port piece of rubbish, and that's coming from some of the fans. I loved BF1942 and BF2 very much (1942 more so), but BC just wasn't that great at all. I was hoping for a sequel to the "main line" series, but it's just BC3 with a different name. Looking at BC1, BC2, and BC3, I feel the business plan is starting to smell an awful lot like CoD, and that has me worried. The lack of mod tools and the appearance of paid DLC doesn't help, either.

 

[Cain]

That's because "beta" does not mean "demo" or "pre-release access" for the full game, yes, you are playing the game before it is released, but what you're playing in the beta is not reflective of the final product, at all. If there's stuff you hate, such as bugs, give the developers feedback. That's what this particular phase is for.

Anyway, I looked into BF3 and I hear that it's mostly a BC2 copy-pasted console port piece of rubbish, and that's coming from some of the fans. I loved BF1942 and BF2 very much (1942 more so), but BC just wasn't that great at all. I was hoping for a sequel to the "main line" series, but it's just BC3 with a different name. Looking at BC1, BC2, and BC3, I feel the business plan is starting to smell an awful lot like CoD, and that has me worried. The lack of mod tools and the appearance of paid DLC doesn't help, either.

I still think it's shitloads better than COD and it's STUPID 'Call Of Duty Elite'. FUCK YOU ACTIVISION.

 

[Schwimmwagen]

I still think it's shitloads better than COD and it's STUPID 'Call Of Duty Elite'. FUCK YOU ACTIVISION.

No doubt that it is better than CoD, but at this point I really won't be surprised if EA went the same way as CoD so they could be the direct competitor. Anyway, if I'm going to play a Battlefield game in the future, I will play BC2, which I got after a sale sometime way back when. I didn't like it very much, but BF3 isn't that much different so I hear, so there's no point in buying the new version. It's going to be a disappointment to me, like how Dead Island was so very much alike to Borderlands. I already owned borderlands, so I was basically buying the same game again, just one that looks and feels different, but at least I liked Borderlands and Dead Island. I don't like any new Battlefield or CoD game, so I'm only going to expect the same shit in the latest installment.

To me, it's like Justin Beiber doing multiple versions of the exact same bloody song, when he could try doing something MUCH different to see if he could impress me with something new and improved and rightfully earn my respect. In the case of these games, we're being told how OMG SO DIFFERENT it is to the last installment in the series, only to buy the game and be vastly disappointed by the fact that it's very very similar to the last, and has little difference. We all end up buying the games and then the developers are like "lol this works, lets do it again next year." Don't forget you have to buy the game before you can decide on anything, and as far as the devs are concerned, it's worked just fine. Now don't forget, Justin Bieber has MILLIONS of views and mentions on youtube, but only small retarded children like him, and a damned awful lot of the viewers are actually the haters who came in to see what he's like out of pure curiosity. They hate him, add +1 view each, and leave. As far as Bieber is concerned, his fame is spreading, but for all the wrong reasons. But does he know? Does he care?

 

[Cain]

Wow.
I've managed to get the beta (somehow) and after playing it...

It's amazing, the graphics, sound, etc.
It's actually, I'd say, more realistic that BC2/BF2, and everything else. There are quite a lot of bugs, being a beta, but it's still quite enjoyable.
Get the beta gibby so we can play together

 

[Schwimmwagen]

Wow.
I've managed to get the beta (somehow) and after playing it...

It's amazing, the graphics, sound, etc.
It's actually, I'd say, more realistic that BC2/BF2, and everything else. There are quite a lot of bugs, being a beta, but it's still quite enjoyable.
Get the beta gibby so we can play together

I appreciate the invite but after everything I've heard and seen about it. The graphics are actually not that great (they don't even look too different to MW), the guns sound seem very unsatisfactory and fake for a WAR GAME, shotguns are useless, recoil is nearly nonexistant, the gameplay is nothing new, and the game has no future potential like BF2, 2142, and 1942 had due to having no mod tools.

The ever-original groundbreaking addition of the modern warfare setting where you get to play as a US marine, the inclusion of a prone function, and the whopping 64-player servers don't sway me either. Everything core gameplay feature found in BF3 was present in 1942 and is now being marketed as "new" despite being watered down and being very much alike to MW in terms of feel. This entire game is a step BACKWARDS from innovation and advancement, not forwards. The game could come with cake and a blowjob and I still won't be interested in getting it.

Here's something from the EA CEO:

"This November, we're launching Battlefield 3. It's going up against the next Call of Duty, which is presently the number one game in the game industry," he said. "A game that last year did $400 million dollars in revenue on day one. [Battlefield 3] is designed to take that game down."

Great. Because we all know the most memorable games are born when publishers push devs to top other devs, and not when a game is an original creation driven by love and the desire to make a dream into a reality. This just looks like another BC game than a fresh start for the BF series. When you're gunning for the biggest number of 13 year-olds and console fans, how finesse'd can this be?

 

[Cain]

I appreciate the invite but after everything I've heard and seen about it. The graphics are actually not that great (they don't even look too different to MW), the guns sound seem very unsatisfactory and fake for a WAR GAME, shotguns are useless, recoil is nearly nonexistant, the gameplay is nothing new, and the game has no future potential like BF2, 2142, and 1942 had due to having no mod tools.

The ever-original groundbreaking addition of the modern warfare setting where you get to play as a US marine, the inclusion of a prone function, and the whopping 64-player servers don't sway me either. Everything core gameplay feature found in BF3 was present in 1942 and is now being marketed as "new" despite being watered down and being very much alike to MW in terms of feel. This entire game is a step BACKWARDS from innovation and advancement, not forwards. The game could come with cake and a blowjob and I still won't be interested in getting it.

Here's something from the EA CEO:

"This November, we're launching Battlefield 3. It's going up against the next Call of Duty, which is presently the number one game in the game industry," he said. "A game that last year did $400 million dollars in revenue on day one. [Battlefield 3] is designed to take that game down."

Great. Because we all know the most memorable games are born when publishers push devs to top other devs, and not when a game is an original creation driven by love and the desire to make a dream into a reality. This just looks like another BC game than a fresh start for the BF series. When you're gunning for the biggest number of 13 year-olds and console fans, how finesse'd can this be?

You'd have to play it to understand :V

 

[Schwimmwagen]

You'd have to play it to understand :V

I did. It was called Bad Company.

 

[Sarcastic Coffeecup]

Ultra graphics my ass. It just has nice textures, and tbh, from that screencap the graphics look like CoD MW.

 

[Cain]

I did. It was called Bad Company.

Tbh, it's quite a different experience (in my opinion ^_^) from the BC series.

Ultra graphics my ass. It just has nice textures, and tbh, from that screencap the graphics look like CoD MW.

You want to see some of -my- screenies?

 

[Onnes]

I appreciate the invite but after everything I've heard and seen about it. The graphics are actually not that great (they don't even look too different to MW), the guns sound seem very unsatisfactory and fake for a WAR GAME, shotguns are useless, recoil is nearly nonexistant, the gameplay is nothing new, and the game has no future potential like BF2, 2142, and 1942 had due to having no mod tools.

So instead of actually playing Battlefield 3, you're just going to let others shape your opinions on it? Then again, it sounds like you are already so dead set against it that you would be unable to find any joy in playing, no matter what the game was actually like.

 

[Schwimmwagen]

So instead of actually playing Battlefield 3, you're just going to let others shape your opinions on it? Then again, it sounds like you are already so dead set against it that you would be unable to find any joy in playing, no matter what the game was actually like.

Playing it is one thing. Paying full-price for it is another thing.

Edit: If I were playing it, I'd likely be entertained, but why should I shell out $60 for it? I've paid a lot less than that for games that actually felt very different to other games I've played, and therefore found my purchase worthwhile! I'd probably like the newer Call of Duty games if it weren't for the utterly ridiculous business model behind it. The older BF games actually did have real improvements and changes in sequence, and I thought they were really worthwhile. Ever since Bad Company, not much has changed aside from the adjustment of existing bells and whistles, or adding some things from the older games. If this game were, say, $5-10 (or rather, £), I'd happily give it a go! To me, it's all down to value. I buy games that have large amounts of improvements and new features or just innovativity/originality. If anything appears to not include that, I will not pay the retail price.

 

[Onnes]

Playing it is one thing. Paying full-price for it is another thing.

Beta is open to everyone now, not just pre-orders. It's basically just a demo, except with numerous game killing bugs.

 

[Kranda]

Beta is open to everyone now, not just pre-orders. It's basically just a demo, except with numerous game killing bugs.

Like falling through the world? I really like the recon class and the shotgun is cool to use when you have a sprint slecilization on. It's one hit kill up close.

 

[Schwimmwagen]

Beta is open to everyone now, not just pre-orders. It's basically just a demo, except with numerous game killing bugs.

Read my updated answer btw.

And that's great to hear, at least. But to be honest, I quite rarely play the beta versions of games - I'd rather try something out that fully reflects the quality of what I'm paying for, rather than a version that has large amounts of unfinished code. "Beta version" does not mean "early access", after all. I may or may not take a look.

 

[Cain]

Like falling through the world? I really like the recon class and the shotgun is cool to use when you have a sprint slecilization on. It's one hit kill up close.

Oh I just -hate- that glitch. It seems to only happen on some servers, though, and only on the first two M-COMS, and in the craters that you find near the M-COMS.

I'm really liking the unlocking style, and all that. DICE weren't joking when they said they would take the weapon customization to a whole new level.

I haven't really seen much of the destruction capabilities of Frostbite 2, but the audio the engine produces is just amazing. Multi-directional fire, bullets/rockets whooshing over your head, it really does immerse yourself in the game.

One thing I do find annoying, is that nearly everyone uses the flashlight attachment. It actually doesn't do much, and gives away your position, rather than blind an enemy. Although it does work close-quarters. Using the M9 Tactical as my side-arm, it's flashlight does wonders when I'm close-quarters and ran out of ammo/cba to use my primary. And the knifing aspect is just -so- fun/funny. Watching players (myself included) run after an enemy with your knife out makes you laugh.

 

[Cain]

Some screenies.

Note, these are only from the 1st group of M-COMS. There's an underground section, and another above-ground section.

Resolution: 1680-1050, Graphics settings on Ultra.

 

[Aetius]

That looks sexy.

 

[Sarcastic Coffeecup]

Still looks like just a bit updated graphics from MW.

 

[Delta]

That's because "beta" does not mean "demo" or "pre-release access" for the full game, yes, you are playing the game before it is released, but what you're playing in the beta is not reflective of the final product, at all. If there's stuff you hate, such as bugs, give the developers feedback. That's what this particular phase is for.

Anyway, I looked into BF3 and I hear that it's mostly a BC2 copy-pasted console port piece of rubbish, and that's coming from some of the fans. I loved BF1942 and BF2 very much (1942 more so), but BC just wasn't that great at all. I was hoping for a sequel to the "main line" series, but it's just BC3 with a different name. Looking at BC1, BC2, and BC3, I feel the business plan is starting to smell an awful lot like CoD, and that has me worried. The lack of mod tools and the appearance of paid DLC doesn't help, either.

I know its not a demo, I expected bugs that's why I said "As a beta, its buggy..." I was still expecting it to be a little more fun than it is. A lot of people were. Despite that its an enjoyable play, the bugs seem to fall on elements that have recently been added, so its more than understandable. In a way you can say this is the Alpha for the updates they did.

 

[Schwimmwagen]

I know its not a demo, I expected bugs that's why I said "As a beta, its buggy..." I was still expecting it to be a little more fun than it is. A lot of people were. Despite that its an enjoyable play, the bugs seem to fall on elements that have recently been added, so its more than understandable. In a way you can say this is the Alpha for the updates they did.

Well herp my derps.

 

[Cain]

...
COD4 is like turd on a stick, graphics wise, compared to BF3.