Best anti-virus.

[Nollix]

Well, I've gotten into cracking systems through social engineering (Keylogging/RAT's.) ...

You are a script kiddie. Stop it.

 

[Runefox]

You are a script kiddie. Stop it.

Well, in his defense, you've gotta start somewhere, right? At least he wants to learn more and isn't claiming to be able to h4x0r j00 n00bz and GAT UR IP ADRUSS NAD BLOW UP UR MODAM

 

[ArielMT]

AVG is a fail program. LOW detection rates, bloat, no decent features.

Can you support these claims, please?

 

[hitokage]

Other - Sophos Anti-virus.

 

[william727]

fuck i went the wrong thing i was meant to go Avira but i went avast well there both good but avira is better (like how vista is more safe than xp)

 

[Ep1c_Pha1l]

You are a script kiddie. Stop it.

I'm no hacker. I'm no skid.

I deal with cracking using social engineering. It's things like getting the schools admin password. I did that by saying I needed it for helping to ironicly, get the keyboard plugged in. I love how stupid the librarians are.

Sorry, I don't hack dude. I know SHIT about networking. It's to fucking complicated. I can only program in TI-Basic, and not even well.

 

[Ep1c_Pha1l]

Can you support these claims, please?

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

Any articles in the past year.

Avast 5 and avg 9 should only do better.

Yes, I don't talk out of my ass.

 

[Ep1c_Pha1l]

Well, in his defense, you've gotta start somewhere, right? At least he wants to learn more and isn't claiming to be able to h4x0r j00 n00bz and GAT UR IP ADRUSS NAD BLOW UP UR MODAM

I was threatend by a skid who I told him my IP was 127.0.0.1. He started to talk about how he's "Deleting my hard-drive" and that I'm "Through a firewall"

That's a skid. I don't pretend to hack.

 

[SnowFox]

I was threatend by a skid who I told him my IP was 127.0.0.1. He started to talk about how he's "Deleting my hard-drive" and that I'm "Through a firewall"

That's a skid. I don't pretend to hack.

Is this you?

 

[Ep1c_Pha1l]

Is this you?

No, It was a different event... Though I saw a lot of similarity between mine and his. That was on a German chat anyway. Lol.

 

[Kaviado]

...

 

[Runefox]

Since when does social engineering involve keylogging and RATs?

I guess getting them in there to begin with. I've heard cases where people have posed as janitorial staff to penetrate otherwise bulletproof security and install keyloggers on company machines as a means of penetration testing. Really interesting how playing to sensibilities and weaknesses can make it easy to penetrate a network and totally compromise virtually everything from the inside rather than brute-forcing your way in.

In any case, answer is Other: Comodo IS. I use this not so much for the antivirus component as for the process monitor which makes any sort of retroactive AV unnecessary, as no process can perform any of various operations without authorisation anyway.

I usually recommend Comodo when someone needs that extra layer of security, for when they don't reliably have control over everything that happens on their computers (like, say, if it's a shared machine). It's very good at doing its job, and it's very good at making the uninitiated shy away from doing anything silly. It's a very, very tight solution, and tested leak-proof.

 

[ArielMT]

http://www.av-comparatives.org/

Any articles in the past year.

Avast 5 and avg 9 should only do better.

Yes, I don't talk out of my ass.

I ask again for evidence supporting your claims:

AVG is a fail program. LOW detection rates, bloat, no decent features.

I ask again because the reports I read on site to which you linked which do so much as address your claims seem to oppose them. I am not so set in my ways that I would stubbornly hold on to any recommendation after it became bad or invalid; if I was, then I'd still be recommending Ad-Aware highly and not recommending MBAM at all in the arena of adware/spyware removal. I am swayed by objective analysis, not subjective opinions.

• How is AVG a fail program?
• By what measure does it have low detection rates?
• By what measure does it have bloat, and how does that relate to other anti-virus applications?
• By what definition of "decent features" does AVG lack any?

Thank you.

 

[Runefox]

By what measure does it have bloat, and how does that relate to other anti-virus applications?

I can sort of field this one. While it's nowhere near the worst out there, in my experience it typically consumes in around 30-50MB of RAM while running, which is higher than the ~15MB for Norton 2009 (which I'm fairly sure remains in 2010), and much higher than the <10MB for Avast (usually hovers around 6MB; Right now, combined, Avast's two services are taking up just over 5MB of RAM on my machine with resident shield enabled).

AVG's been becoming less and less efficient with its use of memory and CPU time since it made the transition from 7.5 to 8.0. Still well within tolerance, however; We still used it at the shop and it still performed fairly well. 9.0 hit and there were some fairly hefty issues with the transition; One very important issue in the business world is the Exchange/Outlook plugin not being upgraded properly, and remaining at the old 8.5 version. The plugin fails to launch, Outlook/Exchange crashes on load, and a complete removal via the removal tool and fresh reinstall is necessary to fix it. Another, less serious issue was focus-stealing every 30 minutes, including to the point of knocking you out of a full-screen app. Annoying. But particularly annoying and the major reason why I won't use AVG in the future was that the devs were very lax in actually acknowledging and fixing these rather obvious bugs.

And here's where it comes into personal experience, and where Your Mileage May Vary(TM): I've just found the scanner to be slower than Avast's. Running AVG caused a rather noticeable drop in general system performance on my computer versus running without, which is very neatly addressed by Avast. Until I finally decided to give Avast a go again, I'd been uninstalling and installing AVG off and on for several months, feeling the need to have some kind of realtime protection while at the same time not appreciating the decline in performance.

Anyway, as for the rest of it, I dunno. In terms of features, AVG is pretty average. I wouldn't be able to tell you with regard to detection rates. The new Avast hasn't been properly benchmarked as of yet and does contain extra features in that regard, including a new Behavior scanner, so that's a little up in the air.

 

[ArielMT]

That's the sort of answer I was looking for. Thank you.

Edit: LOL wut?
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[Atrak]

Just going to say this for the one person that voted Kaspersky: it's epic failure. It's an antivirus program that gets viruses from it's own updates :V . I know from experience.

 

[Ep1c_Pha1l]

I guess getting them in there to begin with. I've heard cases where people have posed as janitorial staff to penetrate otherwise bulletproof security and install keyloggers on company machines as a means of penetration testing. Really interesting how playing to sensibilities and weaknesses can make it easy to penetrate a network and totally compromise virtually everything from the inside rather than brute-forcing your way in.

Exactly. This is what I mean. I don't have the balls or know how to do something like that, but I frequently leave "Remnents" on "Cleansed" machines. It's why my enemies have complained to me about people hacking there myspace frequently.



I usually recommend Comodo when someone needs that extra layer of security, for when they don't reliably have control over everything that happens on their computers (like, say, if it's a shared machine). It's very good at doing its job, and it's very good at making the uninitiated shy away from doing anything silly. It's a very, very tight solution, and tested leak-proof.

Comodo is amazing. I use it for my HIPS and Firewall. I love how sensitive it is.

 

[Ep1c_Pha1l]

I ask again for evidence supporting your claims:

I ask again because the reports I read on site to which you linked which do so much as address your claims seem to oppose them. I am not so set in my ways that I would stubbornly hold on to any recommendation after it became bad or invalid; if I was, then I'd still be recommending Ad-Aware highly and not recommending MBAM at all in the arena of adware/spyware removal. I am swayed by objective analysis, not subjective opinions.

• How is AVG a fail program?
• By what measure does it have low detection rates?
• By what measure does it have bloat, and how does that relate to other anti-virus applications?
• By what definition of "decent features" does AVG lack any?

Thank you.

The license from AV-comparatives says that I can't link to individual articles. Check the most recent dynamic test article's.

I also do fairly basic testing of anti-virus programs (How well it catches stuff in a VM-ware, browsing to malware infested sites... The works)

AVG lacks a network shield (Basic HIPS that avast has. It's quite nice. One of the few things kaspersky did right.)
It lacks a web-shield (If it finds an exploit that downloads a FUD Trojan, your fine even if it would not have detected the Trojan)
The Boot time scan and more advanced anti-root kit stuff, I frequently use avast for dealing with rootkit's because it incorporates GMER anti-rootkit as it's main anti-rootkit.

All of this for free.

 

[Carenath]

Eset Smart Security running on my laptop and netbook (mostly because I have no faith in Windows Firewall to do any kind of useful job).

Next to no overhead and it doesn't pester me, it just sits in the background, a small popup notification to let me know it's updated the database.. and it just works away and doesn't annoy me. Well worth the money spent if you're going to put any at all into a good antivirus tool.
AVG was good until they moved past v7... these days it's as bad as Norton and McAfee. I'd recommend Avira if you really want a free solution.. only it nags and nags every time it runs.

 

[Supersonic Bears]

I've used Mcafee for four years. I never understood how bad it was until now.

Thanks guys.
I just downloaded avast

 

[Ep1c_Pha1l]

I've used Mcafee for four years. I never understood how bad it was until now.

Thanks guys.
I just downloaded avast

Make sure you completely remove mcafee and use it's removal tool to clean up remnants that the uninstaller could not get.

 

[The Aeroplane]

Microsoft Security Essentials.

 

[AMV_Ph34r]

I use Microsoft Security Essentials. Some say it's not good, but it works fine for me, it integrates seamlessly with Windows, and it's free! How much better can you get?

 

[Verin Asper]

I use between AVG and Comodo

 

[Gavrill]

I'm using Webroot, it's alright. But I was stupid and turned off the firewall for a bit so I'm suddenly crawling in viruses. :[

I downloaded avast for when my subscription to Webroot runs out.