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RobCivecat

New Member
If it’s art created/posted with the express purpose of stirring up shit, that’s explicitly against site rules. If it’s targeting specific individuals, that may be harassment and can be reported by those individuals.

It’s not entirely clear whether the art you object to falls under either of those, or is just a topic that you have strong feelings about, so I don’t want to presume, but depending on exact circumstances there may be recourse.

To be honest, that's exactly the "nuclear" option that you said you are against, and honestly I'm against limiting others, or having others banned or suspended. If someone wants to try to harass me, bad-mouth me or my work or my likeings, that's their decision to waste their time on, and my decision is that I don't want to expose myself to these kind of people. Going through all the trouble, to collect evidence about why certain arts are harrasment / meanspirited is more effort than the people creating those arts deserve. If the site doesn't give a simple option for me to browse art without the need to look at the art that mocks me or my art or my interests, I simply don't browse art on the site
 

TyraWadman

The Silent Observer
I really only would want to blacklist one term/artists that is spamming hate-art in a fandom. No, I'm not making this up, art pieces made with the only intention to upset people, there is no sexual arousal, no fetish or personal entertainment from the maker's part, just the sick joy, of knowing that you possibly feel sick from seeing it. I can't believe that people think it would be a negative thing to make this possible to close toxic people like these out.

People say "grow a ticker skin and deal with it" but that's the opposite of a healthy thing. If a certain type of image gives me negative emotions its not healthy to keep those emotions repressed, and obviously complaining isn't going to solve anything either, since these kind of hate-art makers literally get off on complainers. So what I'm suppose to do? Trying to "deal with it" works a couple of times, there is a limit to people being able to handle negative emotions when a douchebag constantly bombards them with targeted hate-art. Only thing you can do is to try to avoid getting these negative emotions in the first place. And if that's not possible on this site with a simple solution of adding a tag blacklist, only thing that can be done is not even browsing art on the site at all.

To be honest, that's exactly the "nuclear" option that you said you are against, and honestly I'm against limiting others, or having others banned or suspended. If someone wants to try to harass me, bad-mouth me or my work or my likeings, that's their decision to waste their time on, and my decision is that I don't want to expose myself to these kind of people. Going through all the trouble, to collect evidence about why certain arts are harrasment / meanspirited is more effort than the people creating those arts deserve. If the site doesn't give a simple option for me to browse art without the need to look at the art that mocks me or my art or my interests, I simply don't browse art on the site

You literally just said you were intentionally exposing yourself to hate art instead of linking the malicious image and selecting the category for the ticket. What's worse, you are pitching for a way to filter out content, but don't believe in blocking, which is exactly what it would do? o_O

Growing thicker skin means being able to use the tools that already exist in order to protect yourself instead of expecting others to do it, AKA blocking. You already want to filter out their content, you can't just back peddle or make excuses not to block someone.

A former staff member offered you advice based on your concerns and you continued to be hostile and take your problems out on them. The search system could be improved for sure, I pretty much never find the image I'm looking for despite it being properly tagged/using specific keywords but you literally have an existing solution to a rather minor problem. Grow up.
 

RobCivecat

New Member
You literally just said you were intentionally exposing yourself to hate art instead of linking the malicious image and selecting the category for the ticket. What's worse, you are pitching for a way to filter out content, but don't believe in blocking, which is exactly what it would do? o_O

Growing thicker skin means being able to use the tools that already exist in order to protect yourself instead of expecting others to do it, AKA blocking. You already want to filter out their content, you can't just back peddle or make excuses not to block someone.

A former staff member offered you advice based on your concerns and you continued to be hostile and take your problems out on them. The search system could be improved for sure, I pretty much never find the image I'm looking for despite it being properly tagged/using specific keywords but you literally have an existing solution to a rather minor problem. Grow up.

On furaffinity, if you "block" someone they are only not capable to write comments on your works or write you personal messages, but their art would still come up in your search results.
I don't want them to remove the art, I don't want them to delete it, I don't want them to loose their accounts, I just want to browse art without the need to expose myself to their negativity.

I don't see what part of my comments/replies were hostile, I simply stated my opinion. I'm looking for a solution, because I don't know of one, and I'm not the only one that said that. If you look up, I'm not the one who started this thread.
Your argument implies that blocking is the same as suspending/banning others or filtering out their art from my search results. I believe this is a simple misunderstanding. so I try to explain it better:

My problem: I want certain keywords(may it be a tag or an artist name) to be automatically excluded from my search results.
Example: Let's say you like a certain character, but there is an artists that constantly spams derogatory art of her only to piss off her fans, which you don't want to see thumbnails of when you search for said character.
Hope you have a better understanding of the situation now, please try to be less aggressive and patronizing in the future.
 

TyraWadman

The Silent Observer
On furaffinity, if you "block" someone they are only not capable to write comments on your works or write you personal messages, but their art would still come up in your search results.
I don't want them to remove the art, I don't want them to delete it, I don't want them to loose their accounts, I just want to browse art without the need to expose myself to their negativity.

I don't see what part of my comments/replies were hostile, I simply stated my opinion. I'm looking for a solution, because I don't know of one, and I'm not the only one that said that. If you look up, I'm not the one who started this thread.
Your argument implies that blocking is the same as suspending/banning others or filtering out their art from my search results. I believe this is a simple misunderstanding. so I try to explain it better:

My problem: I want certain keywords(may it be a tag or an artist name) to be automatically excluded from my search results.
Example: Let's say you like a certain character, but there is an artists that constantly spams derogatory art of her only to piss off her fans, which you don't want to see thumbnails of when you search for said character.
Hope you have a better understanding of the situation now, please try to be less aggressive and patronizing in the future.

So you're watching subjecting yourself to an artist that creates content that (in turn) causes you emotional turmoil. Odd. :confused:
Your posts were both very passionately aggressive on the subject, even if you were given the benefit of the doubt of not being hostile to them.

The downside to installing a filtering system is that it still can be abused, or the same people that demanded this feature, would also begin to argue that the public should have control over the users tags when it doesn't suit them. I.E, a NSFW image that is marked as adult and features canine characters. Two tags. But there's also kinks/fetish themes involved, but the artist didn't include those tags. People will look for more reasons to still be upset over it, and then artists will soon have to worry about other people labeling their art with themes/characters it doesn't actually represent. I've literally had this happen on other websites and removed all of my art because of it.

I'm not saying it couldn't help sometimes, but if someone isn't taking the time to go through every possible tag (and each of their synonyms/variations), there's a very good chance that this (as you describe) 'toxic artist' is still going to have their toxic art slip through because they skimp on the tags.
 

RobCivecat

New Member
So you're watching subjecting yourself to an artist that creates content that (in turn) causes you emotional turmoil. Odd. :confused:

Well considering that you can't blacklist an artists on FA, even if you block someone, you will still subject yourself to his work just by using the site and browsing for art with a term that he just so happened to use.
That was the entire point of my request. And sorry, but if you read my posts as agressive, that's just the way you read them in your head. Every sentence that I wrote can be read in a calm manner.

Also, interesting fact: the search function on FA isn't restricted to tags, it searches in everything, from the title to the description.
Even thought, it is in an artists interest to give good description of their art so people with similar interest find their art, and people with different interest stay away,
But I can see why people forcefully putting tags onto an art that is just their perception and not what the artists actually intended can be frustrating.
Trust me, I don't want that either.

But what you are afraid of wouldn't stem from the system, but from the sites policy on the usage of the system. If the site's administrators wouldn't encourage the use of the tagging system that way, saying that the artist has the last say on what his/her art represents, than there is nothing to be afraid of.

However even if the blacklisting of tags, is impossible to implement without people abusing it, what I do want is to at least have the username being blacklistable. I don't understand why is that if I block someone, his/her works still shows up in my search results.
 
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quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
You can exclude things from your search results. You can limit searches to tags only. I get that the requested features might make it more convenient, but it can be done with the tools that are currently in place.
 

RobCivecat

New Member
You can exclude things from your search results. You can limit searches to tags only. I get that the requested features might make it more convenient, but it can be done with the tools that are currently in place.

Please let me know what tools that can be done with, because I haven't found them on the site.

The only method to exclude something from my search results is that if I type in "-'insertUsernameHere'" to my search. But do you think that's really a reasonable request?
I'm just trying to enjoy myself without the need to think about the artist I am trying to avoid.
Me needing to always remember "oh, yeah there is this guy, that constantly sh**s all over my favorite character, better add him with a minus tag" every single time I search for stuff, isn't very user friendly.
I am a programmer, I work on websites, I don't see how adding one more textbox into the settings, and searching would automatically apply the words from that box with a minus, would affect the site negatively in any way.
Considering I often stop browsing art on the site exactly because of the lack of this simple function.
 
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quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
Please let me know what tools that can be done with, because I haven't found them on the site.

The only method to exclude something from my search results is that if I type in "-'insertUsernameHere'" to my search. But do you think that's really a reasonable request?
I'm just trying to enjoy myself without the need to think about the artist I am trying to avoid.
Me needing to always remember "oh, yeah there is this guy, that constantly sh**s all over my favorite character, better add him with a minus tag" every single time I search for stuff, isn't very user friendly.
I am a programmer, I work on websites, I don't see how adding one more textbox into the settings, and searching would automatically apply the words from that box with a minus, would affect the site negatively in any way.
Considering I often stop browsing art on the site exactly because of the lack of this simple function.
As I said, it’s not convenient, but it is possible with search string modifiers. I don’t work with user scripts myself, but given that IIRC mainsite search works with GET requests, it should also be possible to write one that autopopulates the search field with your desired exclusions, modifies the information sent through the form (not 100% on this; been a while since I fucked around with JavaScript so can’t recall if injecting information into form data at submission time is a thing you can do), or generates your own search result pages with the exclusion string already appended. In theory that should also make it possible to build your own “search page” to generate the URL for you.

The links in the tag fields already use GET links, for instance, so building on that should be doable. Search -- Fur Affinity [dot] net (example search; will include NSFW thumbnails if you’re logged into FA and have NSFW enabled)
 

TyraWadman

The Silent Observer
But what you are afraid of wouldn't stem from the system, but from the sites policy on the usage of the system. If the site's administrators wouldn't encourage the use of the tagging system that way, saying that the artist has the last say on what his/her art represents, than there is nothing to be afraid of.

You seem to be forgetting the part where you claim to experience much mental anguish over encountering certain artworks. :confused:
That doesn't really suggest you'll ever be content should they implement such a feature.

Then again, you're right: if they don't introduce this, I truly have nothing to worry about after all.
 
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