Arshes Nei
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"Gus Fring" was one of the best things that happened with Breaking Bad. It's a shame that he's now being wasted on that Revolution show.
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Cyanide_tiger
Shazam!
I agree that it's a shame his character had to die, since he is a very good actor, but I wouldn't really call his role in Revolution a waste...
Arshes Nei
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Revolution is a pretty terrible show, which is why I said he's being wasted in it.
Cyanide_tiger
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I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree on that point - I've been enjoying the show(not as much as BrBa, but still). It could be better, but the setting is a pretty neat idea in my opinion.
rjbartrop
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One character I've been finding strangely fascinating is Tod. He's a stone cold psychos killer, who at the same time, wants approval, whether it's from Lydia, Walter, his uncle Jack, or even Jessie. Even when he
. In some ways, what he wants is not that different from the rest of us, but the way he goes about it is so very broken. Maybe it's interesting because I seem to have run into so many proto-Tods in fannish circles.
shoots Jessie's girlfriend, he says "Nothing personal" as though he doesn't want her to think badly of him for putting a bullet in her brain
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Cyanide_tiger
Shazam!
I have to agree. He's also one of the outright creepiest character I've seen in a show in a long time. The combination of this boy-next-door apple pie Opie type of look and demeanor plus the sociopathic/psychopathic actions he takes without flinching, such as
threatening Skyler about Lydia, everything he's done to Jesse, shooting Brock's mom, unflinchingly offing the kid during the train heist, and probably a few others I'm forgetting.
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PsychicOtter
Otter Missionary
Well, I liked the ending. It was ver satisfying. My only issue was that it seemed to wrap up a little too​ nicely.
Also, does anybody know if Jesse has any money?
Also, does anybody know if Jesse has any money?
Lobar
The hell am I reading, here?
His money was last seen being thrown out of his car window, so I'm guessing not.
Taralack
Hit 'em right between the eyes
Hrm I just looked this up and the setting does look pretty interesting. Some elements of the plot sound really terribad though, like the main character's family just happens to have a USB containing ALL THE ANSWERS OMG. I'd probably only watch this because it sounds so darn similar to my own post-apoc story.
OT, yeah I guess that was a pretty satisfying ending. Though I feel like it went way too easily for Walt. And as with most TV endings it just leaves me wanting more.
On the other hand, is that Better Call Saul spinoff for real? I can't see how they'd make a show out of it.
Arshes Nei
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It's not the setting that's really bad in Revolution. The acting is pretty horrible. It also has that "lesson of the day" kind of thing. Such a tired trope. It's also for the most part hard to feel for a character. Too many shows come around with douchebag or idiotic characters it's so overdone these days. That's why Alphas was also hard to get into, bad characters.
Better Call Saul is for real - it's a prequel before the events of Breaking Bad. That's how it can happen.
I liked the ending for the most part of Breaking Bad. Least I wasn't feeling "god dammit, that's it (feeling unsatisfied)" like with most series where most end because they were pulled of the air due to ratings.
Taralack
Hit 'em right between the eyes
That's what I figured it would be. Oh well, it might be interesting.
But yeah, you're right. *coughRomecough*
rjbartrop
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I was pretty satisfied with the ending as well. In fact, one of things that sucked me into this show was how consistently everything just feels right.
I was one of the ones who thought Walt had to be punished, and punished hard. You know you're in a bad place when the voice of conscience is Saul Goodman. Going by what was happening to Jessie, I was expecting something pretty horrific. Then he managed to do something I didn't think was possible, and that's redeem himself. He still needed to die at the end, but the fact that he tried to clean up his messes did count for something IMO. The biggest moment was surprisingly, when he finally came out and said he had done it all for himself, and I think this is because it ties in with a theme that's been running throughout the show. Breaking Bad is very much an old school tragedy, and Walter White's tragic flaw has been his capacity for rationalization. His descent into darkness happened a bit at a time, and always supposedly for the best of reasons, and when things went wrong, it was someone else's fault. He's a warning to the rest of us.
On a somewhat lighter note, did anyone else think the machine gun n the trunk was right out of a Roadrunner cartoon. I wondered if the scene in the desert where he was working on the device was a reference to the cartoon, and the way it took out it's creator was certainly worthy of Wile E. Coyote. Walter Wh1te, Super-Genius.
On a somewhat lighter note, did anyone else think the machine gun n the trunk was right out of a Roadrunner cartoon. I wondered if the scene in the desert where he was working on the device was a reference to the cartoon, and the way it took out it's creator was certainly worthy of Wile E. Coyote. Walter Wh1te, Super-Genius.
Kitsune Cross
**** that **** now! Bitch
Someone needs to draw walter white as coyote asap
Arshes Nei
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I wonder how many would still rally behind Walter if instead of meth, he was selling Blue Krokodil.
Arshes Nei
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Meth was seen as a trash drug by the cartels.
Basically Vince said he couldn't believe ppl were still rooting for Walt. One of the problems was that meth was somewhat glorified in the show. So not only was it interesting to see it made, little about the effects were in the show. Sure you saw drug addicts like Jessie, but a lot of the consequences of drug addiction were from other drugs.
Had the show had a less "glamorous" drug, I think more ppl may have turned on Walt as he further went down the path.
But like I said it was one of the problems. Throughout the show ppl felt one option was worse than Walt coming out on top.
rjbartrop
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Yeah, that wasn't fudge they were cooking up. It was my understanding that meth was pretty nasty stuff in it's own right.
There did seem to be people who were trying to make Walt and Jessie the Cheech and Chong of the 21st century, and that just doesn't work.
I was surprised by the intensity of the Skyler hate out there, and there does seem to be a correlation between that and how much they think Walt is some kind of hero.
Arshes Nei
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I wish Gray Matter had a better explanation because I think the "grey" of the actual breakup people are probably drawing their own conclusions which is also the turning point or major part of why Walt is the way he is.
What made a lot of people probably turn on Skylar was several things.
She was an aspiring writer, packing fuckugly clowns to be sold on ebay.
When he got the diagnosis that kind of became a turning point in a sense because it wasn't just the money for the cancer treatments (as much as people like to use that as their political soapbox for health care - there would be no Breaking Bad is kinda bs) but his legacy. Here was a guy who is now a chem teacher who will die and probably leave little to his family. So yeah he saw the guys who Hank was busting and was like "I could cook that shit"
I think what set a lot of people on the hate train is that Skylar did shit that pissed people off more. Her actions during the intervention to get Walter the treatment. You definitely expect Jr to react the way he did because Jr is still living despite his condition. Skylar just basically humiliated the guy and I'm pretty sure people felt Walt was whipped.
So in a lot of people's minds they probably saw and very honestly what Walt said was true. He felt alive. Obviously so because early on remember the hard ons he would get and get freaky with Skylar? Was it wrong? Well yes, but then you see the alternatives are more irritating you want to root. His wife sitting around aspiring to be a writer (and she left accounting because she knew Ted was lusting after her along with the other shady shit) not getting another job telling him what he should do. Basically the typical family setup - man is worried about his status as a career and legacy (now that he's been given a death sentence). Woman making financial decisions (though we learn later not so bad since she was an accountant) pushing the dude around.
Skylar who tried stupid ways of saying "marriage is over if you do this" like sleeping with Ted which really says more about her character than retaliation against Walt. So it's harder to side with someone like that.
You obviously don't want Walt to die early on or it's game over in many viewer's eyes. So when you have him up against the Cartel, the cartel is seen as the bigger bad. Gus? Same thing, once it looks like Game over you can't help but root for Walt. Once he wins? Natural tendency is to see how much further he can go.
Jessie's further fuckups and of course from what I remember he actually wasn't supposed to even last in the show but he was so likeable despite his douchebaggery that they kept him going, you had to hate him but like him all the same. That father/son thing was one of the more interesting points in the show.
You should hate him for teaming up with Neo Nazis but some reason the way those guys acted you see them as worse. Since very few things other than Brock, "one other"(spoiler for Season 5) and possibly his "Replacement" (for harming people who didn't need to be harmed) was Walt's direct involvement he's seen as the "lesser evil".
Well that and it helps that Bryan Cranston is just that fucking good.
rjbartrop
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Arshes Nei
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Just a fun note, got one of these for amusement.
