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Cliven Bundy and anti-government types.

CrazyLee

Biggest buttplug ever
I've been keeping tabs on this Cliven Bundy (nice name) guy in Nevada. Long story short, his cattle were grazing on federal land for almost 20 years. The feds come along and fine him for that, he fights it in the courts, loses, and refuses to pay his fine. So the feds come to remove his cattle. Like a good "law-abiding" (HAH!) citizen, he grabs a gun, gets some anti-government militia types to side with him, points his guns at federal agents, and scares them away.

And of course the conservatives, in their epic stupidity, side with him. Because, the best way to settle a dispute with the government is to wave guns and threaten to kill people, because we have the same kind of society as third world countries. Violence solves everything! If you don't like something, put on a cowboy hat and shoot at someone.

Yea, he's a fucking idiot, a nutjob who doesn't follow the rules.

He's also racist.

But I've started to notice something. Far right conservatives like him, people who hate the feds and think the federal rules don't apply to them, anti-government militias, sovereignists, and groups like that... they all comprise of the same type of people. White, rural, christian, straight, and male. Is that odd? Is it strange the only people really hating on the federal government are white, male, rural, christian types? A lot of them tend to be racist as well. Funny, that.
 

Tica

Lady Sloth
The right likes him because he's anti-government and has a gun. They completely ignore the fact that he's a fuckin' WELFARE KING for living off government land for so long...
 

Machine

Shrieking Possum Queen
Sounds like the posterchild for why gun control is needed.

And mandatory breeding laws.
 

Ayattar

Banned
Banned
So, we have two aspects here

First money
Guy owes over 1 million bucks to the goverment. Of course that he got himseld into this shit like voluntarilly but now he has no other choice. I guess he could pay it without totally ruining himself but well, it's also a matter or honor now.

Second, racism.
He's 67 so he was raised and shaped in the times of racial segregation in very hermetic envoirment with almost no black people around (in 1990 there were only 6% of black people in Nevada, and the more back in time we go...). And you expect him to change. Yeah, sure.

Causa finita.

And this beer is for:
- having the balls to stick to one position
- delivering high quality entertainment. Can't wait to see this topic becoming another right-wing-christian haters' sandpit :3
 

Gryphoneer

20 Quatloos on "disruptive"
Is it strange the only people really hating on the federal government are white, male, rural, christian types? A lot of them tend to be racist as well. Funny, that.
American libertarianism is almost exclusively made up of racist WASPs. It's loss of unearned privilege/power.

They all ascribed to their anti-government ideology du jour simply because to fight the "government intrusion" that prevents them from hanging blacks on the next tree or setting up gas chambers.
 

Kitsune Cross

**** that **** now! Bitch
I've been keeping tabs on this Cliven Bundy (nice name) guy in Nevada. Long story short, his cattle were grazing on federal land for almost 20 years. The feds come along and fine him for that, he fights it in the courts, loses, and refuses to pay his fine. So the feds come to remove his cattle. Like a good "law-abiding" (HAH!) citizen, he grabs a gun, gets some anti-government militia types to side with him, points his guns at federal agents, and scares them away.

And of course the conservatives, in their epic stupidity, side with him. Because, the best way to settle a dispute with the government is to wave guns and threaten to kill people, because we have the same kind of society as third world countries. Violence solves everything! If you don't like something, put on a cowboy hat and shoot at someone.

Yea, he's a fucking idiot, a nutjob who doesn't follow the rules.

He's also racist.

Bullshit, we don't do that shit at all, if I ever tried to do something like that I would be DEAD. That's all your shit so don't get the third world involved into it

But I've started to notice something. Far right conservatives like him, people who hate the feds and think the federal rules don't apply to them, anti-government militias, sovereignists, and groups like that... they all comprise of the same type of people. White, rural, christian, straight, and male. Is that odd? Is it strange the only people really hating on the federal government are white, male, rural, christian types? A lot of them tend to be racist as well. Funny, that.

Yea but almost all your federal goverment is also white, christian, straight, and male so don't give me that shit
 
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CrazyLee

Biggest buttplug ever

Zerig

So Graceful and Phallic
Banned
I really haven't been paying attention to this story, but if I recall correctly, the state of Nevada said he was in the right, and state law trumps federal law.

Also nice job bringing up his skin color, religion, and sexual preference, and other unrelated things, in an attempt to discredit him. I'm sure Tumblr is proud.
 

Troj

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dino Therapist
Of course the guy gave me "crazy asshole" vibes from the start, but he's clearly caught the imagination of anti-government, pro-gun, and/or libertarian types (including some of my friends and acquaintances). There will always be folks who will steadfastly stand by anyone who's even remotely pro-gun and/or libertarian and/or anti-gov--no matter how nuts they might be, because at least he's "one of us" where it counts--but I'm enjoying watching some folks fidget uncomfortably in their seats as the dirt on this guy piles up.

It's rather like when folks slavishly shrimped Schmuck Dynasty guy's toes when he weighed in on gays, and then had to busily re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic when he started offering his views on the negroes. Delicious. Delightful. De-lovely.
 
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CrazyLee

Biggest buttplug ever
I really haven't been paying attention to this story, but if I recall correctly, the state of Nevada said he was in the right, and state law trumps federal law.

Also nice job bringing up his skin color, religion, and sexual preference, and other unrelated things, in an attempt to discredit him. I'm sure Tumblr is proud.

Not to discredit. You missed my intention.

My point was, anti-government types like him are almost ALWAYS white, male, christian, and from a rural area, at least nowadays (I say that because of groups similar to the Black Panthers in the past). How many black or hispanic anti-government groups can you name that operate today? Any?

I'm wondering if there's some kind of mentality that all of these share, and all I can figure is that they're people who remember the good ol' days where minorities and women are inferior, and are angry that minorities and women are getting rights and equal standing and having the ability to do things like control their sexuality and have abortion. IE the loss of male power and privileged. There also seems to be a strong anger against the US becoming more secular.
 

Astus

Well Known Foxxo
I have a dream of a perfect world full of altruistic people living in an anarchist communist society... but this guy is just crazy.

Humans seem to have the craziest social ideas, especially when it comes to certain groups having authority over others; the reason why my dream will never be achieved (selfishness). Give it a couple decades, as soon as the older people die off along with their old ideas, the world may slowly become a more "equal" place. Though with all these old religious teaching, it may be longer than any of us may hope
 

Mr. Sparta

Scale Face
I'm pretty sure the media has better things to cover than this.
 

1000bluntz

mark ass trick
He's a right-wing moron that thinks Obama is a socialist. This only proves that guerrilla tactics for resisting a tyrannical government are effective and we can fight back- this guy was just fighting for a stupid reason.

Oh and you're right OP, funny how a white, christian male commits what usually would be considered an act of "terrorism" and gets sympathy from the right wing.
 
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Gryphoneer

20 Quatloos on "disruptive"
I'm pretty sure the media has better things to cover than this.
Yep, like sweeping the entire white-racist terror complex under the rug because the onepercenters in charge of the media share their convictions (Rupert Murdoch, anyone?) and distract the rubes with new seasons of Geordie Shore or whatever else inane garbage serves as an attention-grabber at the moment.

Oh and you're right OP, funny how a white, christian male commits what usually would be considered an act of "terrorism" and gets sympathy from the right wing.
See also the systematic apologism/aiding and abetting of anti-abortion fanatics who shoot innocent doctors.

That's so fucking rich coming from a group whose hysteria about - inevitably brown-hued - terrorists turned the last decade into a new dark age of atrocity.
 
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