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Coming Out: The Thread (Continued)

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TheMetalVelocity

Guest
No, no, no. Being gay is fine, but you keep bringing up this fursuit sex thing......
But isn't that just picking and choosing? -_-. I figure it technically has something to do with it, since it's the only thing that involves males that i like.
 
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Machine

Shrieking Possum Queen
But isn't that just picking and choosing? -_-. I figure it technically has something to do with it, since it's the only thing that involves males that i like.
There's this thing called discretion.

You already killed the General Confessions thread because of this, for fuck's sake.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Incorrect. The study that found that difference was not scientific. Two follow-up studies which were far more rigorous failed to find a correlation between sexual orientation and hair whorl direction:



I could go further than that. The finger length ratios which were thought to correspond to sexuality have practically no correlation in men, though they might mean something for transsexuals--which makes perfect sense as 2D:4D is strongly sexually dimorphic. Although the lower the ratio is relative to the average for your gender, it's more likely to mean you simply have asperger's.

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And when one out of a pair of identical twins is gay, the other only has a 7% chance of also being gay. Practically the same as the general population. The initial study that found a much higher rate was caused by families with two identical gay twins being much, much more likely to volunteer for psychological surveys involving sexuality.

http://iserp.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/working_papers/2001_04.pdf



All of that said; I do think there is an epigenetic component (there is a strong link between skewed X-inactivation in mothers of homosexual men), and I think that epigenetic activation is good predictor for where your orientation starts when you first develop an interest in sex, but not necessarily where it ends up, due to the plasticity of the human brain. For instance, someone might be programmed biologically to find one sex beautiful, but gradually their sex drive is redirected to the other sex through fetishistic mechanisms.
Thanks for updating me. I was not aware of the problems with the initial hair sworl test.
 
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TheMetalVelocity

Guest
EDIT: Oh, and to add... I do have some trouble dealing with other gay men if they are well... fruity. I'm not a homophobe, believe me I've gotten over that, it is just I personally do not like when people act out. It makes me uncomfortable and this applies to any form of acting out. Talking with a lisp, having floppy wrists, calling other guys "girlfriend," and so on, many times I feel like it is just a form of acting out and calling attention to oneself. So this keeps me from befriending some gay guys.
Same. It's like staring into a woman's soul when you look at them, LOL. You never know, maybe they are a woman inside, which is why they are attracted to men (obviously being a hetero woman inside?), unless it's some kind of submissive act, I don't know. When I think about it, it makes me get confused about my gender for a split second, because I am thinking about how their brain works and you picture what it will be like to be in their shoes. I don't know if you've seen my posts on here, but I have actually made a thread about it, which is basically me saying I can't get over shit like that and it makes me feel uncomfortable. It kind of messes with my head a little. I know people on skype that got mad at me for calling a transgendered person a sir by accident multiple times, because a lot of times, you view them how they originally were. Maybe it's my OCD, I don't know, certain things just don't click with me and freak me out.
 
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Butters Shikkon

Patron Saint of Queers
You complain about not being liked then you go out and say you like an incredibly taboo subject within the fandom. Nice going.

It's as if he posts what he does just to get a rise out of ppl and to get threads derailed...hmmmm....

Sure makes you think...

Well, I came out rather a long time ago.
I told my Mum when I was 17, apparently she'd known since I was 10 - which is interesting as I didn't know at that time! I didn't tell my Dad til I was 19 cos he'd always made homophobic comments - turned out he did them in jest. I never told my Nana technically but she knows...

I didn't come out at school as the 5th formers and younger really bullied a sixth-former when he came out. And despite my year (the 5th formers) being bad at that time, they've all been fine since; turned out 17 out of a year group of 91 were gay or gay-leaning bisexuals (all boys school)...

At uni I came out in second term in general, although some knew in first term. Never really a problem. It helped that my college chaplain was gay I think.

I am still hesitant at coming out at another church I go to, though many know, because my partner is worried how a lot of people there would react.

And I have found myself of late as a sort of coming-out agony aunt for younger friends.


I love to hear these type of stories. My folks were great when I came out too. They knew for a long time too mostly because they are a gay and lesbian themselves.
 
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FenrirDarkWolf

Trapped in a Lucid Eclipse
Oh, speaking of this, somehow or other, I ended up coming out to my friends Saturday. It was weird, apparently two of them experimented before... Which I think is rather weird, because the two that said this were ages 18 and 14/15, but I didn't question it. :p
 
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TheMetalVelocity

Guest
try coming out when your parents watch fox news and support the tea party
LBGT people watch fox news and support the tea party, well...some. I am not entirely right wing at all or keep true to those values and I still watch fox, not that I believe everything they say, because most of the time it's about obama being the bad guy for everything.


Are your parents abusive? If not, then you can probably look up to them and tell them carefully. They might not be happy with it or at least in the beginning, but the worst my family will do is pray and argue with me about my spiritual life lmao.
 
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Distorted

Active Member
try coming out when your parents watch fox news and support the tea party

If I saw Bill O'Riley on the street I'd kick his ass alongside Ludacris and Kanye West. We could have an old fashioned curbstomp and tell that S.O.B. how full of fecal matter he is. WHODEWHOOOOOOO!!!
 

Spatel

Well-Known Member
You complain about not being liked then you go out and say you like an incredibly taboo subject within the fandom. Nice going.
You make it sound like he's talking about cub porn or something considering the degree to which you overreacted.

It's not a big deal. I've heard of TMV's situation before. A couple other furs described something similar, either in this thread or the previous one. Fetishes can sort of... overpower one's innate sexuality I'd say.
 

Kalmor

Banned
Banned
You make it sound like he's talking about cub porn or something considering the degree to which you overreacted.

It's not a big deal. I've heard of TMV's situation before. A couple other furs described something similar, either in this thread or the previous one. Fetishes can sort of... overpower one's innate sexuality I'd say.
A better way I should've put it was that it was incredably taboo on these forums rather than the fandom as a whole. It's still however, not very well accepted by the fandom. It's the source of all the bad press afterall.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
A better way I should've put it was that it was incredably taboo on these forums rather than the fandom as a whole. It's still however, not very well accepted by the fandom. It's the source of all the bad press afterall.

TMV is attracted to men if they wear fetish costumes. Big whoop?
It's not the most eloquently worded post, but of all the things he has said that offend people it is the least provocative one. x3
 

freerider

Dumbass
Huh. Could never tell if I was or wasn't. I'm always wondering what it's like IRL, but you know, where I live and the people here, I could not do a thing.
I forced myself to think of myself as straight.
Oh well.
 

Willow

FAF's #1 Terrorist
TMV is attracted to men if they wear fetish costumes. Big whoop?
It's not the most eloquently worded post, but of all the things he has said that offend people it is the least provocative one. x3
There are really somethings better left unsaid and your attraction to murrsuits is one of them. Especially if you've mentioned it before and people didn't want to hear about it. Mentioning it a second time doesn't make it any better.
(This isn't even that kind of coming out thread..)
 

Rigby

Diaperfurs 4 Lyfe
Back on the original topic tho, coming out as homosexual (not silly fetish crap), I'm gonna do that right now actually. I know what I'm going to say to my mother and everything. I'm waiting for her to finish smoking right now so I can talk to her about it. I'll report back on how it goes, I guess.
 

Leon

Hot sammiches and cold beer.
Best of luck to you!
 

Rigby

Diaperfurs 4 Lyfe
Well, it went fine. We made it thoroughly clear that wasn't going to mention it to anyone ever, which was my main concern. The only bad part was when she talked about taking me to a gay bar, ugh. I can't stand bar scenes, and the last thing I want is to be that guy who was taken to a gay bar by his fucking mom.

Besides that, it was okay.
 

Distorted

Active Member
Well, it went fine. We made it thoroughly clear that wasn't going to mention it to anyone ever, which was my main concern. The only bad part was when she talked about taking me to a gay bar, ugh. I can't stand bar scenes, and the last thing I want is to be that guy who was taken to a gay bar by his fucking mom.

Besides that, it was okay.

I would be careful about going to those kinds of places. I was stupid and went alone and wound up getting felt up, down, and all around. The people in those places are so aggressive and strange. I decided to dance with one guy and he basically attacked my face the whole time. When things started going downhill I hightailed it out of there.

If you go, at least don't go alone. You need a stardard party of 3 or 4 to survive that kind of place.
 

Leon

Hot sammiches and cold beer.
Or just be more aggresive, I don't care if I'm gay/straight or into purle elephants, don't touch me unless I say it's ok. Also, sounds like it went well, just tell her you'll go on your own, sounds like the safest thing.
 
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