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Coming Out: The Thread (Continued)

Kalmor

Banned
Banned
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6782680/

A couple of years back, my older half brother came out as being gay. From my understanding of the situation, it didn't go down very well to say the least with my dad (who isn't said brother's biological father, I might add). After A year or so, my dad finally came round a bit and started being less of a dick to him.. While he was in his presence at least anyway.

Once my brother moved out, my dad started saying things about him behind his back. One such recent example is that when I told him that my brother followed me on twitter, he replied with something along the lines of "Why? He just posts his gayboy stuff". I really wanted to burst out in rage at him at this point but just decided to shrug and quickly divert the topic away from him. It's so weird though. He tries to act as if he's ok with LGBT folk but then blurts out something like that. It's gotten to the point where I actually feel anxious whenever something to do with LGBT rights or people comes up on the TV while he's in the room.Even in games... In the Witcher 3 there's (early game spoiler) an LGBT questgiver NPC that mentions their homosexual relations. My dad's reaction was "bloody gays getting everywhere these days".

This of course puts me in a very awkward position. I'm still closeted bi and I am his eldest biological son. When I do eventually come out, I fear it will cause a shitstorm of epic proportions with him. Apart from his homophobia, he's genuinely a good guy in all other respects and I don't think he's a bad dad by any means... But I believe he expects grandchildren out of me and a "normal" heterosexual relationship - which still has a chance of happening, don't get me wrong. One of the perks of being bi. :V

I fear he'll say and think the same things behind my back like he does with my brother... I'd rather not feel incredibly awkward and on edge while talking to him at any point after my coming out, but that is what will probably happen... I hate it so much....

My mother on the other hand has always been supportive of my brother and his sexuality. She's an amazing woman, despite her annoyingannoying nagging and habits, but people tell me that's a motherly thing. :V

I go to uni in September of next year, hopefully. Hopefully then my dear SO can visit and see how that goes... If well, I'll come out. If not, I'll wait until it becomes relevant again through another same sex relationship. I can't and won't do it face to face.... That's very prone to irrational and instinctual reactions... My brother definitely learned that the hard way... I'll Probably do it by an indirect method, something like a long form letter. I just don't want this to be a huge conflict....
 

Ratical

New Member
My mother on the other hand has always been supportive of my brother and his sexuality. She's an amazing woman, despite her annoyingannoying nagging and habits, but people tell me that's a motherly thing. :V

It's how she shows her love for you. It'd be one thing if she was a bad person and a nag, but if she supports your brother she's probably just being being protective. Still annoying, but probably tolerable. :p

Your dad... agh. I wish I knew what to say. It's like... you want to do right by them, and be the son they want, but that's just not the way things are. You also don't want your family to fracture and, even worse, you be the cause. You can gauge the situation better than anyone else, so hopefully you'll know what's best when the time comes. If a conflict does happen, keep all your supporters very close. Please also let your brother know you're there for him to, if you haven't already.
 
I'm straight... I'm straight... I'm straight... wait, am I straight? Aw shit, I'm fuckin queer.

^basically my life over the past month or so. I've come to the realization that I am actually genderqueer. I grew up as a "tomboy" I guess you would call it, venomously opposed to anything that was too "girly". I refused to wear dresses, skirts, and even gene pants (I wore cloth pants for the LONGEST ass time, until about 4th grade) I've had crushes on girls since I was 6 years old.

But I guess my childhood doesn't matter. What matters is that sometimes I feel male, and other times I feel female. Sometimes I feel a little bit in between. I think my "maleness" can account for the fact that I'm bi-romantic (but not bi-sexual) I tend to feel more romantic towards women during my "male" periods. I like to dress in a way that reflects both genders, but I don't try to change my body (aside from hiding my "curves" underneath baggy clothing, and stuff like that) I actually love my body the way it is, besides maybe my breasts, but I feel like breast reduction surgery would be a little too extreme.

I haven't come out to anyone besides to people online. Personally, I can't think of any good reason to "come out" as this, as it doesn't really change how I feel about myself or how others perceive me. I still want to keep my same name, the same pronouns that have always been used for me. I think it would be an inopportune time to come out, because people might just assume that I'm getting wrapped up in the Caitlin Jenner news or whatever. I'm gonna wait until the end of the summer maybe, and come out to my best friend. Of all my friends, she understands issues of gender and sexuality the most.
 

Ratical

New Member
But I guess my childhood doesn't matter. What matters is that sometimes I feel male, and other times I feel female. Sometimes I feel a little bit in between.

Well, we're all a bit male and female, psychologically speaking, and I think your fluctuating identity is called "genderfluid", which sounds like some kinda lubricant, but trust me it's a thing. I've also heard other bi-persons talk about how they "flip" from one partner preference to another periodically, so you're certainly not alone there either. I'm glad you have someone you think you can talk to. I really admire that strength. If you could share some with me that'd be wonderful. :)

I'm not trying to armchair counsel this thread or anything, I've just been through enough group sessions with this sorta thing that I feel like I gotta say something.
 

LazerMaster5

Lost in the Static
All I know is that my closet has WiFi.
 

LazerMaster5

Lost in the Static
Hey, Sylox, this is the coming out as LGBT thread. The "coming out as furry" thread is in the Community Discussion area.
 

Astrium

King of the Noodles

LazerMaster5

Lost in the Static
Does anyone else really want to know what was in this post now?
His friend found him looking at furry pictures or something. The details are unclear, as my short-term memory sucks.
 

Ratical

New Member
His friend found him looking at furry pictures or something. The details are unclear, as my short-term memory sucks.

Well, I guess being forced out of the closet (the furry one or the gay one) has it's perks. Yeah, it's awkward, but if you were hesitating on doing it yourself than the decision has now been made for you. Probably not the best way, but maybe you can salvage it.
 

Butters Shikkon

Patron Saint of Queers
I never gotten why some LGBT people want to come out of the closet in very homophobic environments (like in many schools). If I was gay, I would want to stay in the closet until I know that I won't have any negative reactions to it.

It'd be super nice if people wouldn't be so discriminatory and/or abusive to them though. It's still around in 2015 and its an embarrassment.
 

Kosdu

Member
I never gotten why some LGBT people want to come out of the closet in very homophobic environments (like in many schools). If I was gay, I would want to stay in the closet until I know that I won't have any negative reactions to it.

It's because being in the closet hurts.
 
Well, we're all a bit male and female, psychologically speaking, and I think your fluctuating identity is called "genderfluid", which sounds like some kinda lubricant, but trust me it's a thing. I've also heard other bi-persons talk about how they "flip" from one partner preference to another periodically, so you're certainly not alone there either. I'm glad you have someone you think you can talk to. I really admire that strength. If you could share some with me that'd be wonderful. :)

Well, I think the reason that I can be so strong is because this identity doesn't really change a thing about how I've already been living my life. I don't really have to come out to anyone, since it wont' affect me much other than having a more masculine outward appearance some days and a more feminine one the next. I can always just explain to my parents that men's clothes are more comfortable (they are, and often times more well-made)

I'm not brave, I just got off easy. :p
 

Kinharia

Drunken Irish Snow Leopard
Well, I think the reason that I can be so strong is because this identity doesn't really change a thing about how I've already been living my life. I don't really have to come out to anyone, since it wont' affect me much other than having a more masculine outward appearance some days and a more feminine one the next. I can always just explain to my parents that men's clothes are more comfortable (they are, and often times more well-made)

I'm not brave, I just got off easy. :p

Being born Male and genderfluid makes crossdressing just that tiny bit harder ^_^ People would look at me funny in womans clothing.
 

Astrium

King of the Noodles
Well, I think the reason that I can be so strong is because this identity doesn't really change a thing about how I've already been living my life. I don't really have to come out to anyone, since it wont' affect me much other than having a more masculine outward appearance some days and a more feminine one the next. I can always just explain to my parents that men's clothes are more comfortable (they are, and often times more well-made)

I'm not brave, I just got off easy. :p

Plus, men's clothing has standardized sizes.
 

Kalmor

Banned
Banned
Your dad... agh. I wish I knew what to say. It's like... you want to do right by them, and be the son they want, but that's just not the way things are. You also don't want your family to fracture and, even worse, you be the cause. You can gauge the situation better than anyone else, so hopefully you'll know what's best when the time comes. If a conflict does happen, keep all your supporters very close. Please also let your brother know you're there for him to, if you haven't already.
Yeah. What happens will happen, just gotta do the damage control if it gets out of hand I guess.
 

Astrium

King of the Noodles
So I came out to my mom as bisexual in the car tonight... She says she's processing, fingers crossed everything goes okay.
 

LazerMaster5

Lost in the Static
I should probably come out as bi at one point or another. I have to wait until the time is right. I don't need it to be some huge dramatic talk, as I hate those. I don't want to be seen as any less of a human being because of my sexuality. I don't need to be considered "normal", but I also don't want to be considered a freak or an attention whore. Yeah, my dad is fairly liberal, but after the last visit to Grandma's house, I am not so sure I can trust him with this knowledge.
 
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