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Concealed carry in fursuit?

Batty Krueger

DJ Nailbunny
Lol, underarmour. That made me giggle.

Anyway I love guns, I love fursuits. Would I ever combine the two locked and loaded? Hell fucking no. I dont even put my fingers anywhere near the trigger well even after checking the weapon numerous times. Shit I've even seen some videos on YouTube of suiters out in the middle of nowhere blasting pistols, shotguns, and rifles. It was the most irresponsible shit I have ever seen, and these dudes are supposedly in the fucking military. Nonono, you couldnt pay me to be involved in something like that.

Sure I take pictures with me in suit holding some of my guns, but I quad check that they are completely unloaded. When I put them away in my gun safe and when I take them out to the range. Its just proper gun safety etiquette.
 
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soutthpaw

DeafFur
Absolutely not. But if you are crazy enough to ask, I think Ferguson PD is hiring..... They like gun crazy cops. First there is no threat that would requires carrying in a suit. Second your limited peripheral vision and main vision partially blocked with a fabric mesh of some kind would impair your ability to make a safe shot and properly assess the threat in the first place.
Second if the investigator doing your prehire background found this thread, That would most likely be the end of your career with that department.
The fact that you needed to ask this in the first place is what concerns me. If nothing else, all the hugging exposes the risk of an Accidental discharge. And if the gun got dislodged from the holster you would be much less likely to be aware of it. No we have a loaded foam that has slipped out onto the connection floor somewhere.....
 
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Zarphus

New Member
I'm gonna just start here with a 360noscopeheaddesk. ....*thud*

Alright. now:
Fursuiting is a leap of faith in and of itself.

Anyone who goes out in fursuit without a handler is placing their trust in the people around them.
Anyone who goes out in fursuit with a handler is placing their trust in the handler.
if you cannot deal with this, do not fursuit.

If you feel the need to be protected in such a manner in suit, i suggest you never go out in public without a handler who has a permit to open carry and proper training in the use and safety of their firearm. Mind you, however, that many, if not all furry conventions are private functions where attendees are banned from having firearms within convention space, regardless of carry methods and permits.


"Oh boy, that 6 foot tall red panda sure looks like his non existent pockets are stuffed with the finest jewelry and wads of cash. lets mug him in the middle of a crowded street during a convention!"

I really hope you're trolling.
 
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Carenath

Cynical Dragon
Also, no. Not cool. I live in Germany. No one here has a gun with them at all times and we are fine. "I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it" MY ASS. Fix your society and don't just add more guns >__>
The only time I've even seen a gun in Germany were on-duty members of the police and I was told that it was very uncommon for officers to use them, mostly at the shooting range to maintain proficiency.

For goodness sakes leave the man alone! Didn't I hear that there was a bomb threat at a convention before, which was shut down? Now here you are mocking someone trying to get into law enforcement because he likes you? You should be ashamed.
They're mostly expressing unhappyness at the idea of someone who believes it necessary to carry a lethal weapon on him at all times in public who also wants to do so while dressed in a costume that provides degraded dexterity and visibility concealing it. They don't think such a person would make good officer material, perhaps given the recent examples of bad apples in the LEO community.

Perhaps police need to re-examine their paranoid culture, then, particularly with the increasing militarization, the growing tendency to treat their fellow citizens like the indigenous people of an occupied territory, and the all-too-frequently tragic consequences thereof.
Perhaps American Society should do something to fix their ingrained gun culture, this bullshit of "rights" being translated into ordinary citizens proudly walking around with weapons not necessary for "self defence" or "protecting my home and family".
 

Frizzlewolf

Member
Ok im just gonna make a fast post here.

I open carry and conceal carry. I do it in the city and state that I live in. Now when it comes to conventions, well most have already covered this point. Conventions do not allow you to have weapons in the con area unless they are fake with an orange tip.
Ill tell you what I do when I go to cons. I bring my weapon, but I have it unloaded locked away inside my car. It stays there till the day I go home.
I know some of you are saying we dont need guns, I will be the first to say its our right and it has helped me out of a few very serious situations.

I was raised with guns and was properly taught how to treat and handle any and all weapons. Even thougj I may not be a trained professional, I still know how not to kill myself or someone unless you are a deadly threat to me or my family/ friends.

If your country doesnt allow it then dont sit here and bash our coutry for allowing us this right.

Anyway let security, hotel security, or even the police handle the weapons at cons. 9 times out of 10 there is police at the hotel during a convention.
 

LolRat

New Member
the thought of a fursuiter carrying a concealed weapon is kinda scary lol.

Just joined the forums and this is the first post I see.

My time here looks promising....
 

kayfox

Member
While in many states its legal to carry your firearm to and from your car and hotel room, hotels generally dislike them being carried elsewhere.

Firearms are prohibited in convention spaces at RainFurrest. This is a common policy at conventions.

I'm sure the sheriff coming by to remove you from the hotel wont do well for your LEO career.
 

Kosdu

Member
Wow, some of you guys are dicks to the fellow.


@OP

The others are right about the vision and mobility inside a fursuit, and in all honesty I believe that putting yourself into such a situation renders you unable to take signifigant/meaningful actions in response to a crisis.

If you can get around the mobility and vision, there still is the factor of fursuiting being a family friendly kind of thing, it'd be like if Santa Claus at the mall carried a saturday night special.... not very fitting or appropriate.


My recommendation, although I almost guarentee it to be unneccesary, is to learn ways of defending yourself and defusing situations that do not require a firearm.

In most cases through being aware of your surroundings and having a level head can prevent any form of danger, and if there is danger, and you insist on actions despite the limited capabilities of a suit, then perhaps you can put into actions unarmed methods of disarmement and disabling.


I should also say, that a firearm is almost always a deterent (and in police work, a method of compliance) rather than a means of phsyical self defence. The rule you will learn in the police service is that to be able to bear your weapon and fire at a person who is charging you requires them to be a long distance of 20ft. Think about how long that is, especially if the other guy is opening fire on you.

I have plans myself to habe a suit created that maximizes mobility and sight and includes a sarong (an effective non-lethal weapon that is allowed pretty much anywhere, although I need more training in it's use).
If I ever have to use it, I've failed at being aware enough to avoid/defuse a situation, and I will be handicapped.


@Other posters

The idea of a firearm with a fursuit may be silly, but it is hardly mature of you to bash on a guy who isn't saying guns should be everywhere, and is instead simply saying he wishes to keep one on him for emergencies. Not for fun.

I think there are better solutions, but you are treating him like one of those open-carry-automatic gun nuts in texas, and assuming he will be some janky corrupt police officer when the majority of them ARE NOT, in what I imagine is the majority of the United States.

Congrats on being with the cool kids.
 
the thought of a fursuiter carrying a concealed weapon is kinda scary lol.

Just joined the forums and this is the first post I see.

My time here looks promising....

Yay, Biker Mice from Mars! :3

I think there are better solutions, but you are treating him like one of those open-carry-automatic gun nuts in texas, and assuming he will be some janky corrupt police officer when the majority of them ARE NOT, in what I imagine is the majority of the United States.

Congrats on being with the cool kids.

He's admitting to being paranoid enough to wish to carry a gun, while wearing a mascot costume in a crowded, safe enviornment. He might be a decent person, but that request is the definition of a gun-nut. :/
 
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Kosdu

Member
Yay, Biker Mice from Mars! :3



He's admitting to being paranoid enough to wish to carry a gun, while wearing a mascot costume in a crowded, safe enviornment. He might be a decent person, but that request is the definition of a gun-nut. :/

I think it was more him not being familiar with such enviroments and not thinking about the limitations that would be upon him.

Alot of people are not nuts, yet carry weapons for self defence when they really aren't needed and/or able to be used.


If you think that is gun-nutty, in Texas there are people with ak-47s slung over their shoulder... In the open.... Because they can. I wish I were kidding, though it's a very small group I think.

They literally walk into resturants with assault rifles...... Talk about a security risk.
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
Anyway let security, hotel security, or even the police handle the weapons at cons. 9 times out of 10 there is police at the hotel during a convention.

At night, the amount of Police doubles, and sometimes triples at high population convention. So there's not really a need to carry a weapon in the convention space.
 
If you think that is gun-nutty, in Texas there are people with ak-47s slung over their shoulder... In the open.... Because they can. I wish I were kidding, though it's a very small group I think.

They literally walk into resturants with assault rifles...... Talk about a security risk.

Oh god what.
.__.

But yeah, kudos for defending OP, it's just a touchy subject so people are harsh, I guess.
 

Ieatcrackersandjumpcliffs

Fighter of the Nightman
I make a Google mistake and I end up here? The fuck?
 

Coluth

Member
If you think that is gun-nutty, in Texas there are people with ak-47s slung over their shoulder... In the open.... Because they can. I wish I were kidding, though it's a very small group I think.

They literally walk into resturants with assault rifles...... Talk about a security risk.

Umm....No. Never happens except at protests. Been here 30 years and I've never seen it except at a protest and even then they didn't have magazines in them. Open carry isn't legal in Texas. It is however legal in Oklahoma where you're from. How many people do you see carrying around guns? Most of the people who carry, wouldn't carry openly even if it was legal. Why make yourself a target for criminals? Only people I know who would want too are complete idiots and give gun owners a bad image. Check the laws before you go spouting nonsense.
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
Umm....No. Never happens except at protests. Been here 30 years and I've never seen it except at a protest and even then they didn't have magazines in them. Open carry isn't legal in Texas. It is however legal in Oklahoma where you're from. How many people do you see carrying around guns? Most of the people who carry, wouldn't carry openly even if it was legal. Why make yourself a target for criminals? Only people I know who would want too are complete idiots and give gun owners a bad image. Check the laws before you go spouting nonsense.

It really doesn't make you a target for criminals if you have an assault rifle slung over your shoulder like a backpack. However, it is subject to have you looked upon like a criminally insane asshole by the general public and ridicule from the more responsible gun owners. an example would be this situation.

I am all up for knowing your rights and all that jazz, but there should be common sense in situations before you exercise "your rights" first.
 
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Coluth

Member
It really doesn't make you a target for criminals if you have an assault rifle slung over your shoulder like a backpack. However, it is subject to have you looked upon like a criminally insane asshole by the general public and ridicule from the more responsible gun owners. an example would be this situation.

I am all up for knowing your rights and all that jazz, but there should be common sense in situations before you exercise "your rights" first.

OMG!! I HATE those guys! I've only seen them in that picture but it still makes me want to take a baseball bat to their skulls. Friggen Tactitards!
 

Chaossal

Member
I've never seen people walking around with rifles over their shoulders and I think if anyone tryed to go into a restaurant like that they would be asked to leave o_O
I know us Texans love are guns but its not that bad o.o don't think its legal to walk around like that
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
I've never seen people walking around with rifles over their shoulders and I think if anyone tryed to go into a restaurant like that they would be asked to leave o_O
I know us Texans love are guns but its not that bad o.o don't think its legal to walk around like that

You're located in Germany, did you originate from Texas and then move there?
 

Ozriel

Inglorious Bastard
I've never seen people walking around with rifles over their shoulders and I think if anyone tryed to go into a restaurant like that they would be asked to leave o_O
I know us Texans love are guns but its not that bad o.o don't think its legal to walk around like that

It depends on the restaurant, really. I know here that in Virginia it is liable to get you hauled downtown despite your rights if you walked into a restaurant with an AK-47 strapped on as if it were a backpack.
Private establishments can reserve the right to refuse service if they feel that you carrying an AK-47 into their establishment will make their customers feel uncomfortable.

Those people are the minority and I am not saying it happens very often, but you do have assholes like the aforementioned I linked who do it for shock-value and to make all gun enthusiasts look like domestic terrorists looking to establish the "New world order".

OMG!! I HATE those guys! I've only seen them in that picture but it still makes me want to take a baseball bat to their skulls. Friggen Tactitards!

You, me ( do not own a gun but I do not care as long as you are responsible), and everyone I know that collect guns.
 
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CaptainCool

Lady of the lake

ForgetSanity

New Member
Being a family member of a law enforcement officer, yes they always carry guns for safety reasons. when you spend your days arresting people, giving out tickets and in general poking at criminals you need to be able to defend yourself at all times. My aunt lives up in Washington and a few years ago when all of those shootings where happening killing various cops one of those cops killed was one she trained. So i understand the need to feel protected at all times when you live in a violent society. and can I point out that, that happened in a coffee shop. So something happening at a con isn't far off. please think Not all cops are so ready to weeld their weapons BUT they do like to have them on them in case something happens. we live in a society where criminal offenders will go after family members of police officers, officers themselves when off duty and such. so think before you just start insulting someone over a simple question. unfortunately this world is fucked up and people do stupid shit for stupid reasons. So please think a little more than just beyond the furry fandom and look at human beings in general. (ack sorry ranted here but it buggs me as I do have family in lawenforcment)

BUt I do agree there is no way to wear a fursuit and beable to carry a weapon. it'd be easier in a partial, but even then you still have the paws to deal with and it's just not going to work sorry buddy.
 

Fallowfox

Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Being a family member of a law enforcement officer, yes they always carry guns for safety reasons. when you spend your days arresting people, giving out tickets and in general poking at criminals you need to be able to defend yourself at all times. My aunt lives up in Washington and a few years ago when all of those shootings where happening killing various cops one of those cops killed was one she trained. So i understand the need to feel protected at all times when you live in a violent society. and can I point out that, that happened in a coffee shop. So something happening at a con isn't far off. please think Not all cops are so ready to weeld their weapons BUT they do like to have them on them in case something happens. we live in a society where criminal offenders will go after family members of police officers, officers themselves when off duty and such. so think before you just start insulting someone over a simple question. unfortunately this world is fucked up and people do stupid shit for stupid reasons. So please think a little more than just beyond the furry fandom and look at human beings in general. (ack sorry ranted here but it buggs me as I do have family in lawenforcment)

BUt I do agree there is no way to wear a fursuit and beable to carry a weapon. it'd be easier in a partial, but even then you still have the paws to deal with and it's just not going to work sorry buddy.

It is fair that we expect people entrusted with lethal force to be aware of the problem you pointed out in your last sentence, and to ask for appropriate professional advice concerning how they handle weapons, rather than a board of internet furries.

OP gets no sympathy for being associated with the police, and hence a potential target, because OP has demonstrated they have such a vulgar disregard for the safety of others that they do not deserve to be associated with the police at all.

What would you think if you found out an officer from your local police was considering carrying a gun while he was performing as the front of a pantomime horse?


edit: I mean, entertain for a second that some fluff-wit on here told the OP that this was a great idea, and that he actually did it. Someone could have been killed or permanently disabled.
 
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ForgetSanity

New Member
It is fair that we expect people entrusted with lethal force to be aware of the problem you pointed out in your last sentence, and to ask for appropriate professional advice concerning how they handle weapons, rather than a board of internet furries.

OP gets no sympathy for being associated with the police, and hence a potential target, because OP has demonstrated they have such a vulgar disregard for the safety of others that they do not deserve to be associated with the police at all.

What would you think if you found out an officer from your local police was considering carrying a gun while he was performing as the front of a pantomime horse?


edit: I mean, entertain for a second that some fluff-wit on here told the OP that this was a great idea, and that he actually did it. Someone could have been killed or permanently disabled.

Look I agree it was a stupid stupid question, but really I would have to say someone probably has already tried it. He at least posted on here first asking for opinions from costume makers and fursuiters.

and I can tell you that I have has similar things happen already my mom and I work off and on as costumers for a local players theater, just because they are acting as a character in a play or something like that doesn't mean they shouldn't feel protected at all times. I'm saying think about it. You automatically think that this person an idiot just to ask, when it could have just been a thought that passes in his mind and he brought the question to fursuit makers to know if it was possible.

BTW just because they are dressed as a furry doesn't make it any different than if they where dressed in any costume. You shouldn't treat it differently.
 
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