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JegoLego
Fig Newton
Speaking of plagiarism, I'm writing an English paper in class about the novel Cry, The Beloved Country. My main topics for the essay are ones I found on Sparknotes. My teacher knows this, yet for some reason he's okay with it... Well, if it ain't broke don't fix it! (BTW he's also been pushing the due date back several times, so I haven't even started typing the paper)
DevilishlyHandsome49
The Most Handsome Devil
Ive used sparknotes for papers too but im not really ashamed of it. I put the info i found in my own words, added my own kind of writing style to it and viola a B or A on the paper
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
If Arshes was still the hbic he'd be banned quick as lightning. And if the artist community on here was anything like it was in 2012 (where we had a good deal of decent ones who took commissions) he'd be on Artist's Beware. That's not something that you just apologize for. An apology is meant to be a sincere expression of regret and grief. This is just "I got caught and I dont wanna be raked across the coals, let me do that submissive roll on my back dogs do".
Apologies don't mean shit anymore cuz people do it for the stupidest reasons.
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RedSavage
Rattlesnake Flavored
If you have to wonder, you probably do.
Atemis
Member
What Butters says is true, apologizing changes very little, but as far as I know he broke no laws and what else can be done on the Internet? Pumu should just apologize, then leave and never come back. Of course I believe that anybody can redeem themselves somehow, I did a lot of stupid shit when I was younger.
Volkodav
Dad****er
Nah, okay I don't agree with this.
What Pumu did was wrong and he acknowledges and publicly admits it. The determining factor in whether or not his apology matters is based on if he CHANGES. There are plagiarists all over the internet and what makes someone a good person or not is if they know they fucked up and will work to change. It's not hard to just.. not steal art, so I believe that people can be given a second chance.
Pumu, my suggestion would be to make a public apology on your Skype group or whatever and then never ever do it again, no exceptions. Plagiarism is bad and hurts the artists who work hard on their art and you know this. The most you can do now is strive to become a better person.
I left FA years ago and the entire time I was gone, I wanted to make a journal about it. I eventually mustered up the courage to create one and had it openly viewable on my page for some time. It attracted trolls and whatnot which is to be expected, but I know it got to the people it was aimed at because they messaged me.
I feel 10x better now because I did that, and I don't go out of my way to troll and harass people like I used to.
You can read it here:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5889221/
If you want to be a dick, I'll just block you here and there, idc anymore.
What Pumu did was wrong and he acknowledges and publicly admits it. The determining factor in whether or not his apology matters is based on if he CHANGES. There are plagiarists all over the internet and what makes someone a good person or not is if they know they fucked up and will work to change. It's not hard to just.. not steal art, so I believe that people can be given a second chance.
Pumu, my suggestion would be to make a public apology on your Skype group or whatever and then never ever do it again, no exceptions. Plagiarism is bad and hurts the artists who work hard on their art and you know this. The most you can do now is strive to become a better person.
I left FA years ago and the entire time I was gone, I wanted to make a journal about it. I eventually mustered up the courage to create one and had it openly viewable on my page for some time. It attracted trolls and whatnot which is to be expected, but I know it got to the people it was aimed at because they messaged me.
I feel 10x better now because I did that, and I don't go out of my way to troll and harass people like I used to.
You can read it here:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/5889221/
If you want to be a dick, I'll just block you here and there, idc anymore.
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
People should be held accountable for their actions. That's the grownup world, folks.
Maybe I am available if you desire someone to talk to? ☺
OT: I confess I do enjoy distractions from school work.. periodically anyway.
Atemis
Member
And what exactly would you propose happen to him, send him to prison, give him a few lashes with a whip. This is an iternet forum not a court room, we don't condemn him to punishment, that's DA staff's job. We can only help him change.
Volkodav
Dad****er
Being held accountable for your actions after confessing to your crimes doesn't mean you need to treat that person like they're garbage.
Have you ever traced when you were just starting out drawing, Butters?
Don't lie to me.
RedSavage
Rattlesnake Flavored
I had no idea I was on that list. I was straight up in rehab at that time.
But thank you, for what's it's worth, and I think you're a much better person now. And I do in fact think about you, occasionally fret about you, and hope everything goes best for you.
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
If a person is going around impersonating another user on a forum...I think that's grounds for discipline. But hey, I'm not a mod. But as a community, we shouldn't coddle people who want to deceive others and possibly aim to commit commission fraud.lol. No. I didn't. I've been drawing for a long time, Clay. And tracing is a boring way to start anyway.
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
:3c I've done a few Butter boys in the past.
Volkodav
Dad****er
I did. This was back before I owned a scanner or was on any furry sites. I was just starting out in furry art and wanted to try my hand at it so I'd print shit out and trace it.
Was it a bad thing to do? Yup, but I'm sure we all did it. The point is that we have to change away from that.
Naesaki
JRPG Fanatic
Yeah I commissioned TairuPanda just over a month ago (was quite far down on his queue), so worth wait for it ^w^ when I saw my emails this morning with the finished product.....I confess I may have fan squealed a little bit. The full version is on my gallery, with full permission from him of course and credit given back.
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and as for the whole Pumu thing, apologising is all well and good but Pumu, the fact you felt the need to do it in the first place and impersonate an artist like that, thats just low. You do need to try and make it up to those people but, thats not a road easily traversed.
But as Atemis said, its not for us to judge you here or to give you forgiveness, but we can try and put you on the right track. But anyway lets try and drift away from this topic now, for everyone's sake and sanity.
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
You know, we actually had a tracer on this forum once. And he was ignorant of the fact that what he was doing was "tracing". I liked him. He wasn't a bad guy. But he did get raked across the coals still. And he walked away smarter and more aware of his own art skills.
Puma straight up claimed another's art was his own. And that's far less innocent/cute.
Volkodav
Dad****er
Doesn't matter if it's "less innocent". All we can do is say stop that, tell him why it's wrong, and give him tips to improve.
Pumu knows what he did was wrong and knows how he can change and improve. That's a good thing and he shouldn't be shamed for it.
That's not to say we shouldn't say "PUMU DON'T BE AN ASS", but for christ sakes don't act like you want the guy sent to a deserted island instead of offering him some advice. If someone stole my art I'd do the same thing. Yell at them, demand it be taken down, sure.. but just simply doing that does nothing in the long run, it teaches nothing but that the art thief won't go after your art next time. Pumu at least has some remorse.
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
Yes. Having remorse after being caught is totally true regret and not just getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar. And hell, I'm not even demanding he be put away. XD You guys are rushing to pat his ass so fast, you'd think this was a homoerotic football game.
What have I said? I've said I doubt his apology is real. And I've expressed my thoughts that people should be held accountable for their actions. That ain't hitler level thinking, Clay. When you are held accountable for your actions, you tend to take life more seriously.
Butters Shikkon
Patron Saint of Queers
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