Does being a furry make you go to hell? Christian

[Lucy Bones]

Really?

Absolutely. Most churches charge for Bibles, baptisms, the ability to be in the choir, etc. It's all a business, and what they sell is their religion.

 

[Ricky]

To be a Republican is to be the type of person who'll take down whatever competition you can to get ahead and make a shitload of money, and then give a bunch away in a philanthropic manner so the public doesn't hate you.

To be a Republican is to say "government, get the fuck out of my shit" like with these drones you all whine about.

To be a Republican is to say "HEY MAYBE WE SHOULD SAVE SOME MONEY FOR ONCE."

To be a Republican is to say "HEY, uhh you also shouldn't believe in abortion. Because, like... um..."

But, hey. If Republicans are the ones who make a shitload of money like you say then where do I sign up? :roll:

 

[Aetius]

Absolutely. Most churches charge for Bibles, baptisms, the ability to be in the choir, etc. It's all a business, and what they sell is their religion.

Non profits CAN charge for services and this does not make them For Profit businesses. The separation between both a non-profit and for profit entity is that the a non-profit entity uses revenues to make up for costs and are allowed to post surplus revenues (which may only be used in the organization and the organization only. Examples include either preservation or expansion of services). If you took a basic accounting 101 class, you would know what the hell you are talking about.

 

[Day Coydog]

You don't want to be a republican... if you do you will be legitimately raped.. every day, for the rest of your life.

 

[Lucy Bones]

Non profits CAN charge for services and this does not make them For Profit businesses. The separation between both a non-profit and for profit entity is that the a non-profit entity uses revenues to make up for costs and are allowed to post surplus revenues (which may only be used in the organization and the organization only. Examples include either preservation or expansion of services). If you took a basic accounting 101 class, you would know what the hell you are talking about.

Churches have always been about profit. They've always, from day one, been a corrupt system of social abuse and indoctrination. They use people and their money to further their own goals, that's how it's always been. Pretending like it has been otherwise is like turning your head, plugging your ears, and saying "BLAH BLAH NOTHING HAPPENING HERE."

 

[Aetius]

Churches have always been about profit. They've always, from day one, been a corrupt system of social abuse and indoctrination. They use people and their money to further their own goals, that's how it's always been. Pretending like it has been otherwise is like turning your head, plugging your ears, and saying "BLAH BLAH NOTHING HAPPENING HERE."

I believe that when it comes to deciding whether or not a church is for profit or non profit, I would prefer to trust the IRS in this case.

 

[Day Coydog]

Churches have always been about profit. They've always, from day one, been a corrupt system of social abuse and indoctrination. They use people and their money to further their own goals, that's how it's always been. Pretending like it has been otherwise is like turning your head, plugging your ears, and saying "BLAH BLAH NOTHING HAPPENING HERE."

http://www.justmeans.com/Black-As-Sin-Vatican-Bank-Accused-Of-Money-Laundering/31884.html

And why the hell would the government pay for pedophiles to be shipped all across the country so that they can rape more children? WTF is up with that!?

 

[Ricky]

You don't want to be a republican... if you do you will be legitimately raped.. every day, for the rest of your life.

By whom? ^^;;

 

[Day Coydog]

By whom? ^^;;

By this guy: [video=youtube;joxny3rco_4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joxny3rco_4[/video]

 

[Ricky]

By this guy: [video=youtube;joxny3rco_4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joxny3rco_4[/video]

A Little old, but hey.

He looks like he has money *whistles*

 

[Lucy Bones]

I got pregnant by rape, once.

I had 13 babies, it was a wild night.

 

[Day Coydog]

I don't believe this actually happened, but I am going to switch sides and say that I don't know if this didn't or did happen.

 

[Holtzmann]

Non profits CAN charge for services and this does not make them For Profit businesses. The separation between both a non-profit and for profit entity is that the a non-profit entity uses revenues to make up for costs and are allowed to post surplus revenues (which may only be used in the organization and the organization only. Examples include either preservation or expansion of services). If you took a basic accounting 101 class, you would know what the hell you are talking about.

The Catholic Church is making some pretty penny for a non-profit entity. And so are the Protestants over here. In fact, they make enough money for their bishops to be caught with it stuffed down their underwear in airports, and also to star in scandals where their highest-ranked representatives tell people it's all about the money. Meanwhile, the Jehova's Witnesses have enough funds to finance not only the buying of prime real state and also the building of their temples.

I'd accept them being tax-exempt if they lived hand-to-mouth, or if their net profits were below a certain threshold (y'know, like normal people over here), so they would have an incentive to actually deploy their funds in charitable acts. They don't, so they should be taxed just like any other for-profit enterprise.

 

[Fallowfox]

As a point of curiosity, a non profit organisation spending money on palaces and gold, when their most basic claim is that everything important is immaterial, is highly suspicious.

 

[Holtzmann]

As a point of curiosity, a non profit organisation spending money on palaces and gold, when their most basic claim is that everything important is immaterial, is highly suspicious.

Oh, come on dude! You know God is all about them megachurches with three-stories tall gold-plated crucified Hebrew effigies! And the fancy hats! You can't have a religion without a cool hat to go along with it, God will not allow it! :V

 

[Fallowfox]

Oh, come on dude! You know God is all about them megachurches with three-stories tall gold-plated crucified Hebrew effigies! And the fancy hats! You can't have a religion without a cool hat to go along with it, God will not allow it! :V

And naturally private schools with exotic curriculems and laundries to subject mothers who bore bastards to slave labour, which may both include some good ol' fashioned systematic abuse.


Just imagine, if there were taxes on the exploitation of people for the glory of god this vital work might not even be possible. o:

 

[Azure]

As a point of curiosity, a non profit organisation spending money on palaces and gold, when their most basic claim is that everything important is immaterial, is highly suspicious.

sorta reminds me when i lived in texas and i worked at this sandwich shop in hs. there was a megachurch just down the street, and it was sort of like a football stadium sized building covered with windows and made of brick, and they had this MASSIVE cross outside of it. fucker had to be 150 feet tall if it was an inch. WHERE DID THEY GET THAT MONEY? and why wasnt it used to help people instead of build some plastic banana bullshit. i dont even want to discuss my visit to st peters basilica, there was enough GOLD ENCRUSTED SHIT to purchase half of africa.

 

[Nikolinni]

There's nothing for people to determine immorality when it comes to homosexuality other than religion. All homophobia is rooted in religion.

Modern society is like a computer. Everything does it's job, and it does it's best to work efficiently. Religion is a computer virus. It comes in, re-writes things to be less efficient and make pretty much no sense, and fucks up the efficiency and usability of the computer. It can even completely destroy it, which is what happened to many many cultures during the spread of Christianity.

Objection. I've actually seen atheists who were against homosexuality. You don't hear about it much (Probably because the media wants to focus more on whatever'll get them more views or whatever), but there are non-religious people who don't like gay marriage. Here is an example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1082190/posts

So fault on you for not looking into the entire issue and blindly blaming religion. Yes, it IS a large cause for people against gay marriage, but to blame it solely on religion is bias and ignorant. And if religion is a computer virus, then geez, I must be pretty good at using viruses for good. Because while I don't force any of my beliefs down any of my friends' throats, it greatly influences and I've used the teachings from it and other stories to give advice to people beyond "Go out and seek God". But ah, you'll still find a fault. But, what can I expect? One can find a fault in the most perfect of artwork; they only have to find one, even if it doesn't exist.

Also, I know these aren't humans but animals, and this is very nit-picky on the words, but animals can be homophobic too. So how do you explain that one? Can't blame it on God this time.

 

[Fallowfox]

I do good because I believe a chariot of unicorns will take my spirit to the everlands when I die in return for my piety...and because I fear they will rip my endtrails out if I do not. Spread the word!

Nik' is however right that homophobia is not exclusive to the religious. Immature and otherwise vile individuals also espous homophobic views. In my country it's a popular insult used by school children and teenagers eventhough most are not religious, for instance. The frequency of this behaviour plummeted after about the age of 16 in my experience.

 

[Butters Shikkon]

I got pregnant by rape, once.

I had 13 babies, it was a wild night.

And one of those was me!! True story...

 

[Day Coydog]

Can't blame it on God this time.

Actually, you kind of can... if it were not for the bible being against it a hell of a lot less people would have a problem with it, in the same way that religious people do not know how to handle matters that deal with sex.

 

[Captain Howdy]

Objection. I've actually seen atheists who were against homosexuality. You don't hear about it much (Probably because the media wants to focus more on whatever'll get them more views or whatever), but there are non-religious people who don't like gay marriage. Here is an example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1082190/posts

So fault on you for not looking into the entire issue and blindly blaming religion. Yes, it IS a large cause for people against gay marriage, but to blame it solely on religion is bias and ignorant. And if religion is a computer virus, then geez, I must be pretty good at using viruses for good. Because while I don't force any of my beliefs down any of my friends' throats, it greatly influences and I've used the teachings from it and other stories to give advice to people beyond "Go out and seek God". But ah, you'll still find a fault. But, what can I expect? One can find a fault in the most perfect of artwork; they only have to find one, even if it doesn't exist.

Also, I know these aren't humans but animals, and this is very nit-picky on the words, but animals can be homophobic too. So how do you explain that one? Can't blame it on God this time.

Posting a link to a story that is in-and-of-itself is backwards doesn't exactly help your case. Even IF it claims to be secular, it still has no basis in usable logic. The most common "reasons" given to find gay marriage unacceptable (or whatever you want to call it):
- It's based in sin (or whatever)
- It's Adam & Even not Adam & Steve
- It'll lead to polygamy or bestiality being "acceptable"
- Gays can't properly reproduce (sound familiar?)
- It burns and stomps all over tradition
- Having a biological mum and dad is "better" than two of the same gender
- If gays marry, then marriage itself is meaningless!
- It's immoral, blah blah blah

You get the picture. All but two of these are not inherently religiously-based, they all happened to be some of the most common arguments against gay marriage...given by religious types. The reproduction argument is actually one of the most devastating (if it were true) if you think it all the way through. If marriages were only allowed to those whom were definitely going to have children? There'd be a lot less marriages, but a lot more babies. Since marriage is only for reproduction, in whatever universe those people live in.

 

[Nikolinni]

Actually, you kind of can... if it were not for the bible being against it a hell of a lot less people would have a problem with it, in the same way that religious people do not know how to handle matters that deal with sex.

Oh, I was more or less referring to the animals themselves. How can you blame animals acting gay or homophobic on God, if you're arguing that you can't know about if he's there or that it's bs?

Edit: Well yeah, I know that there's a lot of cases where religious types use religious reasoning to argue against gay marriage. But then the non-religious take the moral high ground and act like they're better because apparently no secular person would be against gay marriage, which if you do some research, you'll find is untrue.

 

[Day Coydog]

Oh, I was more or less referring to the animals themselves. How can you blame animals acting gay or homophobic on God, if you're arguing that you can't know about if he's there or that it's bs?

... you don't get what I'm saying, yeah there are people out there that are xenophobes or just anti-gay, but these will always exist, the fact is that without religion brainwashing people to mindlessly hate, there would be a lot less hate.

 

[Fallowfox]

Oh, I was more or less referring to the animals themselves. How can you blame animals acting gay or homophobic on God, if you're arguing that you can't know about if he's there or that it's bs?

Edit: Well yeah, I know that there's a lot of cases where religious types use religious reasoning to argue against gay marriage. But then the non-religious take the moral high ground and act like they're better because apparently no secular person would be against gay marriage, which if you do some research, you'll find is untrue.

Frequency of religions opposition to Rights regardless of sexual orientation > Frequency of secullar opposition to said rights