TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
When you dream you see something that isn't actually there.
You aren't schizophrenic for it.
Does being a furry make you go to hell? Christian
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You aren't schizophrenic for it.
We're not talking about dreaming or the unconscious, now are we? We're talking about the waking world, and how people think that when a doctor does his best to save someone's life, it's God they have to thank, not the doctor who put all his hard work and effort into saving a life.
Fallowfox
Are we moomin, or are we dancer?
Okay, between the ages of 10 and 13 I was schizophrenic.
Myths and magic are just ideas that the brain generates- because that's one of its normal functions, cemented by emotional requirements of the brain that are part of normal function too.
Now there are instances in which extreme religiosity is caused by physical differences in the brain, such as tumours. Those are not part of normal function and are pathological.
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
You expect people to thank people who help them? Humans are horrible creatures.
Do you see people thanking waiter's all the time for their food? Sometimes some people won't thank the waiter. People almost never thank the chef at a restaurant for their food, despite the fact that he actually cooked it. People don't thank bank tellers for giving them their money. People don't thank store clerks for selling them things.
Everyone should thank other people for their things, but that just doesn't happen. It's not religion's fault.
Holtzmann
Juular.
Oh, yes! I was just talking about the "they gotta be crazy to be religious!" argument. I agree that religion in general very often does more harm than good.
Considering the brain has dials as opposed to on/off switches for its behaviors and so most psychological disorders are actually a spectrum of conditions, I'd expect most people to be schizophrenic in some level.
Yet you still "respect" these kinds of people...
It absolutely is. Today's society is a religious-based society. Our government, our constitution, and most morals are based on the existence of a higher power. That's why people say "under God" in the pledge of allegiance. All modern society is based off of a religious beginning, and the fact that we're not growing up and doing things like thanking waitresses and doctors is a sign that religions is now an obsolete concept. It has become a hindrance to human evolution and human intelligence. It must be done away with if we're to move on as an intelligent and courteous species.
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
Bingo. But people respect doctors too.
They just don't thank them, is what I'm saying.
To not thank them is to be disrespectful.
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
So you are really trying to say that if people didn't have religion, people would thank other people more often?
Does anyone think this?
How is the fact that we aren't thanking people a sign that religion is obsolete? How do those two ideas correlate to each other?
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
No, to be disrespectful would be to say something rude to them.
Indeed, and people who don't thank are called assholes. I don't think assholes should be respected. I'm beginning to wonder how you got into a "school for the gifted" with all of your pointless arguments. Just because you excel academically doesn't mean you're above everyone else here.
With a lack of religion, common sense says that people will direct their priorities to a more humanistic approach. People don't care about each other anymore, mainly because of religious boundaries. Without religion, people will have more of a reason to focus on keeping each other happy. With the existence of religion, the happiness of human beings doesn't matter, only the happiness of God matters.
When you focus your life on something like that, you're indirectly contributing to world ignorance and intolerance.
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
I'm not above anyone. No one is. Everyone on the planet is an equal.
EDIT: No, you would be an a-hole if you not only did not thank the doctor, but said something rude to him as well. And it isn't pointless. It's to say that religion has nothing to do with why people do and do not thank people.
CaptainCool
Lady of the lake
The bible tends to disagree with you there.
Religion as a whole can only be described as mass hysteria, and until we can get passed that, moving on scientifically is going to be very difficult.
Holtzmann
Juular.
Religion is indeed a cultural legacy that, while useful in the past to unite different people, is now often a hindrance. Unfortunately, it's not going to go away through a deliberate choice by us, and it will certainly not going to be a sudden change.
We have a deeply-ingrained need for stability and myth. Even if we ousted all ancient religions and instituted a new system based on rationality, observation and experimentation, soon new religions would rise. Why? Because then common knowledge would be enshrined as "truth", even though that concept doesn't really apply to reality, because we have need for it. And you would know they would be there once a theory was challenged. It already happens now, within the scientific community itself! Some researchers become so hell-bent on their own theories being right that they become blind to anything that challenges their perception of the truth. Expand that to an entire society and you'd have riots in the streets whenever someone attempted to add to the common pool of knowledge.
You know, just like the philosophers of the ancient times. Or the climate researchers nowadays.
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
People nowadays barely put much effort into religion. Religion doesn't really dictate most people's lives anymore. People still care about each other, people are just genuinely selfish. Few people are actually extremely selfless and go out of their way to say something as simple and nice as "Thank you" to everyone who helps them.
Have you said thank you to everyone who's aided you in your argument?
I don't think so.
And neither have I.
Legends and philosophy are just fine. They are analogies for excellent morals and teachings much of the time. However, when you read"The Three Little Pigs" and actually believe that a pig built a large house out of bricks, you're going to be a problem.
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
I already stated that I don't put much stock in the Bible a few pages ago.
Plus, I don't read the Bible.
What are you, smoking crack? Most of the world bases their ENTIRE LIVES on these religions. You may want to take a good look at the planet before making the argument that people barely focus on religion anymore. It's still the #1 driving force on the planet, and that hasn't changed in thousands of years.
Then why are you a Christian?
ALL of Christianity comes from the Bible. You know that, right?
TrishaCat
The Cat in the FAF
You are definining philosophy wrong. A philosophy is not the same thing as a legend. You have issues with legends, not philosophies.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/legend
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/philosophy
Isn't that what "Christ"ianity is though? Following Christ as described in the bible, of which you don't read.
I know the difference between the two, but they still have the same general principle. Stories and viewpoints put forward to promote a moral or thought.
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