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Does the fandom make people gay?

KILL.MAIM.KILL

Angry Lizard King
Banned
I was bi before joining the fandom. I mean, nothing has really changed for me.



You would think in the year 2018, with access to google, this wouldn't be a problem. It bugs the shit outta me too.

Pictures you find of naked women through google are likely to be porn, and those too are unreliable as they've often had cosmetic surgery to fit unrealistic ideals.

But honestly, most 'yiff' artists draw the female anatomy so poorly that they've probably never even looked at a porn star.

Not that they're great at male anatomy either, but it's more obvious when they draw women.
 

Zhalo

Rez the Wolfdog
well from a biological standpoint the fandom can't MAKE you gay rather it would encourage you to accept you are gay and come out but not all furries are gay i'm quite firmly straight if anything the furry community has made me less judgemental of gay art and more comfortable with my own sexuality that i can look at gay furry stuff and appreciate it as an art piece rather than go "get that shit outta mah face"
I don't personally think that the whole being gay is 100% genetic/biological is a settled issue necessarily. I mean paraphilias are entirely environmental. it is not that much of a stretch to say that being attracted to the same sex could be environmental as well.
 

GreenZone

Banned
Banned
I don't personally think that the whole being gay is 100% genetic/biological is a settled issue necessarily. I mean paraphilias are entirely environmental. it is not that much of a stretch to say that being attracted to the same sex could be environmental as well.

except it goes against all established medical science... its well established that its a benign genetic mutation the reason why people keep trying to say its environmental or what ever is because the LGBT community don't want to think of themselves as having some kind of defect or disability which they don't any way and actually its anti gays that try to push the environment view because then they can say its "curable"

gender and queer studies is not fact there's a reason its being phased out of school curriculum's across the world my country for example has now banned it in two states after peer review found it to be opinionated and contained no citations
 

Zhalo

Rez the Wolfdog
except it goes against all established medical science... its well established that its a benign genetic mutation the reason why people keep trying to say its environmental or what ever is because the LGBT community don't want to think of themselves as having some kind of defect or disability which they don't any way

gender and queer studies is not fact there's a reason its being phased out of school curriculum's across the world my country for example has no banned it in two states after peer review found it to be opinionated and contained no citations
No it is understood to at least be partially environmental.
theconversation.com: The science behind a more meaningful understanding of sexual orientation
 

GreenZone

Banned
Banned


well i don't trust the "Ugandan academy of science" but giving that a flick i think you misunderstand what they mean by environmental factors

its still biological they're talking about the environment of the uterus and hormone imbalance in the mother can have an effect they don't mean like parenting or mother coddling this isn't actually a new theory its been around since the 90s there was even a cartoon about it
 

Zhalo

Rez the Wolfdog
well i don't trust the "Ugandan academy of science" but giving that a flick i think you misunderstand what they mean by environmental factors

its still biological they're talking about the environment of the uterus and hormone imbalance in the mother can have an effect they don't mean like parenting or mother coddling
There is an entire Wikipedia article on epigenetics and homosexuality if you want more references ...also what do you have against Ugandans :p (That was just the second result on google) epigenetics is affected by environmental factors other than stuff in the womb such drugs, stress and many more factors also affect epigenetic markers.
 

GreenZone

Banned
Banned
There is an entire Wikipedia article on epigenetics and homosexuality if you want more references ...also what do you have against Ugandans :p (That was just the second result on google) epigenetics is affected by environmental factors other than stuff in the womb such drugs, stress and many more factors also affect epigenetic markers.

yeah but its all still a genetic mutation...

any way i don't trust the Ugandan Academy of Science because Uganda does weird shit like actually trying to say magic is relevant and that science might be wrong because its created by whitey
 

Zhalo

Rez the Wolfdog
yeah but its all still a genetic mutation...

any way i don't trust the Ugandan Academy of Science because Uganda does weird shit like actually trying to say magic is relevant and that science might be wrong because its created by whitey
I know I don't trust Uganda for my research either XD Epigenetics is not genetic mutations it is genes that are already present being switched on and off... that is the easiest way to explain it.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
I wish someone would take data on people's time in the fandom and their sexuality and then chart it out. Then we would really know if the fandom makes people gay. I know there are groups that already have the data, furscience being the first one that comes to my mind. All that would need to be done is to chart the two sets of data against each other.

Also I think it might have something to do with the fandom being predominantly male and people's desire to date within the fandom
The problem with all the data we have on furry demographics is that none of the studies/surveys (at least far as I'm aware) used anything close to an unbiased/random sample. Now, it's probably not really feasible to obtain a statistically sound sample, being how the fandom is organized (not very), but it's something to keep in mind before assuming they are representative of fandom at large.
 

solacedelayed

""Trainer""
I definitely agree with generally what most people have said, that you were probably Gay or bi-curious before becoming a furry or associating with that group and then it became cemented.

Honestly regret not finding this social group earlier. :/
 
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Skychickens

Late Healer Ferret
A: they’ve done research and actually a surprisingly high percentage (somewhere in the 40s) of people are bisexual, even if it’s kinda a demi situation. B: Add in all the strictly gay people and you have over 50% of the population is LGBT, meaning LGBT has the majority. (I wish I could find the studies...) It’s usually a lot of cultural conditioning telling people their feelings are not valid or are something else.

C: you tend to flock towards like minded individuals so we just have a higher concentration of LGBT willing to be open than many other social structures. We’re pretty open and accepting of it, which in turn breeds into comfort.

D: hell I was gay way before I could internet.
 
So, I think we can all agree Furries are really gay! At least compared to the general population that is. The thing is why are furries so gay? I heard some people say that it is because in order to be a furry in the first place you have to be very open minded, and therefore people who are furries are also more likely to be LGBT.

But what if the reason furries are so commonly LGBT isn't just because LGBT prople are more likely to become furries, but because the fandom makes people LGBT over time? Just through sheer exposure to homosexuality making people more prone to becoming homosexuals themselves. I don't find this as a bad thing necessarily, but just a interesting concept to think about and I wonder if anyone else thinks that it is a possibility?

Personally I am bisexual and the fandom helped me realize that I am bisexual. I first discovered the fandom when I was 12 or 13. I found the sexual side of the fandom first when I was trying to find stuff of a particular fetish I am into. Looking back on it I was so obviously bisexual, I remember being attracted to another boy in addition to girls at the time. Though I was very much in denial about my sexuality mainly due to it being frowned upon in my immediate family and I would of described myself as straight back then. I only began to think of myself as bisexual about 3-4 months ago, and a big part of realizing that was because of the furry fandom. So I guess the furry fandom helped make me bisexual, I don't really know?

1) It's not that everyone is gay (I personally am not) I think it's because of the fact furries are so accepting, people like to be accepted, so people who usually feel that they couldn't be accepted for who they love or something, this is a safe space for them where they can be themselves and they don't have to hide
2) The fandom doesn't make people LGBT over time, I personally will never be gay (though I have thought about it) however, since it's so accepting people like it (i.e. a person who is LGBT+ might not be able to be themselves around parents/other people, but in the furry community they are accepted for who they are because so many people are the same way)
3) I may not be LGBT+, but the furry fandom has definitely helped me realize some other things about me-which I am not going to go into for personal reasons. But I can definitely say if I tried to be the person I want to be around other people they would think I'm weird, stupid, or need help-however in the Furry fandom I'm accepted because of how many people also have that in common.
Short version of what I'm trying to say: The fandom is a safe space for anyone, people can be who they want to be without being judged. It's not that the fandom makes people LGBT+, it's that the fandom attracts people who are because it's a safe space to be yourself-at least from my perspective.
I hope that this all makes sense, I also hope nobody is offended by what I say. I have no probably with the LGBT+ community, this is just from my perspective. If you personally are upset with this post just PM me and I'll edit it to say -Had to delete what I said- or something.
 
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Mikazuki Marazhu

I hate you all
Guys guys guys! Be gay! :V in this time and age being straight white male is considered the highest form of sin, you're basically a Nazi!

If you be gay you're not Nazi :V
 
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BahgDaddy

Guest
Well, I became bi curious after joining the fandom. I would have never described my self in this manner beforehand. However as time has gone nothing has really changed - I'm stroll actually pretty straight, and having a relationship with a male would cause more problems for me than it would solve.
 

SpiralingBats

SpiralTheBat
To me, it’s more of a choice. I don’t think the fandom makes them bi/gay/. It’s more of them realizing what you feel. Like you said. So I’d say no, and to be honest, the furry fandom is one of the most opening and Welcoming to people to me. There are people tho who do it just because others are. So. In the end, it’s really up to you how you feel.
 

Katook

Well-Known Member
Does Catholicism turn people into child molesters? Probably not.

so.... Does a community of liking animal-people make you want to engage in relations with the same sex? probably not. I'm bisexual, I decided, after years of shifting sexual preferences. Ultimately I'm fluid/flexible and my attractions shift, but bisexual is teh label I am happiest using for myself, in the definition context of: attraction to like and opposite genders' essentially transmen and nonbinary/androgyneous people are the "like" I am attracted to, as that is what I am, and really cute femme girls and then Hugh Jackman type. Hell yah.

So no, being a furry didn't make me gay.

Actually if anything, goddamn ANIME made me gay.
 

Belatucadros

Bitches love sticks
Nah, I don't think the fandom turns people gay. I think it just helps people come to realize and understand how they feel about certain people. I have always been straight, but after being in the fandom for a while and meeting other furs of both genders, I've come to realize that I can relate to and possibly love somebody of the same gender as well.

That said, 99% of the time in public I'm checking out the ladies, and will almost definitely find myself in a straight relationship when that time comes. I say 99% because I have seen a couple guys who made my heart beat a little harder.
 

connortheskunk

definitely did not look at yiff last night.
Nah, I don't think the fandom turns people gay. I think it just helps people come to realize and understand how they feel about certain people. I have always been straight, but after being in the fandom for a while and meeting other furs of both genders, I've come to realize that I can relate to and possibly love somebody of the same gender as well.

That said, 99% of the time in public I'm checking out the ladies, and will almost definitely find myself in a straight relationship when that time comes. I say 99% because I have seen a couple guys who made my heart beat a little harder.
This is the exact same way I am. Before discovering the fandom, I thought I was 100% straight. Then, when I joined the fandom, I became a little bi-curious. Though it probably has more to do with the fact that I am pretty young and still figuring out my sexuality.

Since joining the fandom, I've met a few male furs that I've been able to make a strong connection with that has led to some sexual feelings, but still not strong enough to be able to form an actual relationship with. Just last week, however, I met a fur whose personality I completely adore :3 and I think I'm in love with him <3. He's let me know that he feels the same way about me, too. However, as much as I love his personality, I can't really ever see myself dating a guy in real life. Whenever I'm in public, I'm always checking out the ladies, and I don't really have any sexual fantasies about guys. Sometimes I look at guys and think, "Damn, he's pretty handsome", but I almost never think, "Damn, he's sexy".

Unfortunately, if I ever meet my fur friend in real life, which is very possible considering we only live an hour's drive away, I think that seeing him as a guy will probably be a turn-off and the strongest we'll ever be is best friends.

So overall, I think the fandom has opened my mind to being gay, and it may have caused a few more gay tendencies, especially online, but I don't think it has changed my sexuality to gay, or even bi.
 

Cawdabra

Well-Known Member
This is the exact same way I am. Before discovering the fandom, I thought I was 100% straight. Then, when I joined the fandom, I became a little bi-curious. Though it probably has more to do with the fact that I am pretty young and still figuring out my sexuality.

Since joining the fandom, I've met a few male furs that I've been able to make a strong connection with that has led to some sexual feelings, but still not strong enough to be able to form an actual relationship with. Just last week, however, I met a fur whose personality I completely adore :3 and I think I'm in love with him <3. He's let me know that he feels the same way about me, too. However, as much as I love his personality, I can't really ever see myself dating a guy in real life. Whenever I'm in public, I'm always checking out the ladies, and I don't really have any sexual fantasies about guys. Sometimes I look at guys and think, "Damn, he's pretty handsome", but I almost never think, "Damn, he's sexy".

Unfortunately, if I ever meet my fur friend in real life, which is very possible considering we only live an hour's drive away, I think that seeing him as a guy will probably be a turn-off and the strongest we'll ever be is best friends.

So overall, I think the fandom has opened my mind to being gay, and it may have caused a few more gay tendencies, especially online, but I don't think it has changed my sexuality to gay, or even bi.
Basically. Also anal is a huge turn off for me.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
Sometimes I look at guys and think, "Damn, he's pretty handsome", but I almost never think, "Damn, he's sexy".
*shrug* I don't really tend to think of people as "sexy", male or female, though I'll notice people who fall into what I find physically attractive. I think the question is more whether it's "he's pretty handsome" in a "I'm noticing this guy conforms to social standards of what's attractive" sense or a "I personally find this guy attractive" sense.

Basically. Also anal is a huge turn off for me.
Not like anal is mandatory in a gay relationship. Or any relationship. It's one form of sex. There are others. :)
 

DarkoKavinsky

ʎʇʇɐq ʇıq ɐ
I'm a demisexual.

So I'm a bit of an odd fish (even considering that I draw smut)

However that being said I think the reasoning for the fandom being largely gay is due to the idea of the fandom.

I'll try to explain this as easy as I can. The idea of furries does hold a social outliar in the mindset of most people. We've all seen the negative stigma.

But for those who are socially ostracized by the conventional norm you are more open minded to equally ostracizing things.

I think this is less a Fandom making furries gay, but more like Gays are more willing to be furries.

I bet if you took a slice of the furry population you'd find a lot of subgroups who are ostracized from the norm of society.

I think this is a good thing as it means you get diversity amongst us furs! And frankly I don't think furries are such a small thing anymore.
 
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