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Does the fandom make people gay?

TrishaCat

The Cat in the FAF
I don't think it makes people gay. I just think it helps people come to learn more about their own sexuality in a safe and welcoming way. I imagine liking animal people is a lot easier to accept for one personally in the current society, so maybe you might find yourself liking a particular same-sex furry character here and there, and then wondering "well if I like this, I wonder if I like this!" and then people come to realize that they like people of their own sex too perhaps.
 

Sunburst_Odell

Some weird teen on the web that likes cartoons
Sorry but I don't make the rules. You'll have to ask Zhalo
Yeah, you don't get a choice! In order to be a Furry you HAVE to be gay!

What a dumb question that is like asking if you HAVE to have a license to drive or something
Well, I'm gay, so I guess I qualify
 

Zrcalo

I STALK PRINCIPLES
the fandom makes people gay. period.
its the sole weapon of the gays to convert people to their degeneracy!!

THE FURRY FANDOM IS THE GAY GUN.
 

Yakamaru

Woof? Woof
I'm pretty sure girls in the fandom are less likely to be gay than guys.

5.1 Orientation - FurScience

Which is interesting...
Keep in mind that this study was only conducted at several cons, and does in no way equate to how the fandom is at large.

The sampling is faulty and very limited in its area. That, and people may not answer truthfully, especially when it's done face to face.
 

Cawdabra

Well-Known Member
Keep in mind that this study was only conducted at several cons, and does in no way equate to how the fandom is at large.

The sampling is faulty and very limited in its area. That, and people may not answer truthfully, especially when it's done face to face.
Yeah I'm always skeptical about "fur studies" ever since I read one that said sex was a minor part of the fandom without even showing any numbers.
 

Zhalo

Rez the Wolfdog
Yeah I'm always skeptical about "fur studies" ever since I read one that said sex was a minor part of the fandom without even showing any numbers.
That Furscience group is actually pretty legit, just look at their about us page, also they pretty regularly give a presentation at TFF.
 

Yakamaru

Woof? Woof
That Furscience group is actually pretty legit, just look at their about us page, also they pretty regularly give a presentation at TFF.
Ye. What they can't say is "this is how the fandom is", or "the fandom have shown these statistics". What they can say however is "we conducted surveys of X amount of people, and out of those X amount of people, Z amount showed homosexual tendencies". They can't imply the whole fandom is like this or that, or show Y tendencies, though they are free to imply it with the ones they have actually asked.

Unless at least some 80% IMO of the fandom answers such a survey truthfully, these surveys will be limited to those who answered it. We also have to consider who answered the survey, potential biases in terms of sampling, and a plethora of other factors, some of which @quoting_mungo have brushed up on earlier in this one and/or other threads.

I have had people come up to me thinking I am gay for merely being an anthro fan, and I'd argue such surveys may be one of the potential causes. That said, I have nothing against being hit on by other guys. I find it flattering that they find me interesting enough to hit on me.
 

Zhalo

Rez the Wolfdog
Ye. What they can't say is "this is how the fandom is", or "the fandom have shown these statistics". What they can say however is "we conducted surveys of X amount of people, and out of those X amount of people, Z amount showed homosexual tendencies". They can't imply the whole fandom is like this or that, or show Y tendencies, though they are free to imply it with the ones they have actually asked.

Unless at least some 80% IMO of the fandom answers such a survey truthfully, these surveys will be limited to those who answered it. We also have to consider who answered the survey, potential biases in terms of sampling, and a plethora of other factors, some of which @quoting_mungo have brushed up on earlier in this one and/or other threads.

I have had people come up to me thinking I am gay for merely being an anthro fan, and I'd argue such surveys may be one of the potential causes. That said, I have nothing against being hit on by other guys. I find it flattering that they find me interesting enough to hit on me.
It is about as good of a sample as your going to get for something as decentralized as the Furry fandom, a con is about as centralized as it gets.
 

Yakamaru

Woof? Woof
It is about as good of a sample as your going to get for something as decentralized as the Furry fandom, a con is about as centralized as it gets.
Indeed.
 

Troj

Your Friendly Neighborhood Dino Therapist
It is about as good of a sample as your going to get for something as decentralized as the Furry fandom, a con is about as centralized as it gets.

Especially when you conduct paper surveys and in-person panels at some of the largest conventions year after year, and also online, as we've done. Over 10,000 furries surveyed! :D Other scientists are green with envy!
 

solacedelayed

""Trainer""
@ withmybearhands...

I mean... ??? I guess, whatever rocks your magical boat? Or insert some such Metaphor. Et Al. .. ...
 

Vasquez

The shelled collector
I know of a small handfull of straight dudes that have started to get attracted to gay furry art, they don't like guys irl but art of male animal people? Totally their jam. Who knows why or how, but it does seem to happen oddly enough. Though, there are one or two guys people would "turn gay for," maybe it's just a very, very specific type
 

Dongding

The sheep
Like I said earlier in the topic, I enjoy a lot of material that doesn't match up with my actual sexuality.

I choose to look at things like that because what I actually find attractive about them is usually the situation, or the emotional impact that it has on the subjects and not the subjects themselves.

I'm an idealist... a very perverted idealist.
 

quoting_mungo

Well-Known Member
It is about as good of a sample as your going to get for something as decentralized as the Furry fandom, a con is about as centralized as it gets.
Even then, from what I've gathered about the distribution of the surveys, the sampling is biased. If the survey was distributed by the con in the registration packet, for instance, you might be able to get a reasonably representative sample. Not 100%, since you still get the bias that gets introduced by not everyone responding, as well as the wedge of people that decide giving outrageous answers is more fun than contributing honest data to a survey, but better than eg "the people who went to a particular panel". That could let you draw fairly reliable conclusions about the demographics of that con's attendees.

"As good as you're going to get" does not equate to representative, which a lot of people seem to forget when it comes to these surveys. I absolutely agree that getting a random/representative sample of furries (necessary if you want to generalize the results to a larger population) is nigh-impossible.

This is literally one of the things my degree covers. Critical source evaluation is difficult, and will sometimes give you answers you don't like, but it's necessary if you want reliable information.
 

Yakamaru

Woof? Woof
Even then, from what I've gathered about the distribution of the surveys, the sampling is biased. If the survey was distributed by the con in the registration packet, for instance, you might be able to get a reasonably representative sample. Not 100%, since you still get the bias that gets introduced by not everyone responding, as well as the wedge of people that decide giving outrageous answers is more fun than contributing honest data to a survey, but better than eg "the people who went to a particular panel". That could let you draw fairly reliable conclusions about the demographics of that con's attendees.

"As good as you're going to get" does not equate to representative, which a lot of people seem to forget when it comes to these surveys. I absolutely agree that getting a random/representative sample of furries (necessary if you want to generalize the results to a larger population) is nigh-impossible.

This is literally one of the things my degree covers. Critical source evaluation is difficult, and will sometimes give you answers you don't like, but it's necessary if you want reliable information.
^ My thoughts exactly, though going by her previous posts, I know she's holding back. =w=
 

Gronix

Catless Cat Lady
I've started exploring stuff back then first right here in this community but continued elsewhere as well.

A community doesn't "turn" people's sexualities, that's pretty stupid, at least over the years I've observed various communities nowhere I've seen people peer-pressuring anyone to change their sexualities.
No, this is something of all open-minded communities, since to this day many, many, many people still grow up in households where any LGBT topic is taboo, and live their childhood in communities where these 'tendencies' can very well be oppressed. Because that's what really happens, a lot of LGBT people (not everyone obviously) for the most part are subconsciously oppressed that needs some growing up to burst out of, or option B, getting in communities like the furry fandom where they are exposed to these things, where they can first-handedly see that there's nothing wrong with being the way they are.
Of course they can be exposed to this in many different forms, but it just so happens that these online communities serve as a hubs for people to realize themselves.
 

Zrcalo

I STALK PRINCIPLES
Hmm, but so far in this thread only dudes got turned gay? Girls are immune to that and they stay straight? Not good...
girls are the artists duh. if most of the porn is gay, they're immune. what we need is more lesbian art. but only straight guys commission that.
 

Zhalo

Rez the Wolfdog
girls are the artists duh. if most of the porn is gay, they're immune. what we need is more lesbian art. but only straight guys commission that.
I always found it hilarious that straight guys tend to be the ones to get off to lesbian porn
 
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DaWaffleWolf

Guest
I’ve been straight and I’ve learned to accept the LGBT community so i don’t think it really changes you, you make that choice
 

Zrcalo

I STALK PRINCIPLES
I always found it hilarious that straight guys tend to be the ones to get off to lesbian porn
its two girls, and they're a guy. it makes sense. they dont want to see another guy in the equation because that triggers a competitive response. they want the girls to be theirs.
 

Yakamaru

Woof? Woof
I always found it hilarious that straight guys tend to be the ones to get off to lesbian porn
Well, how is it hilarious? Two gorgeous women going at each other? It's no more weird than a gay guy enjoying two men going at each other.
 
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