You're mostly right on your arguments, but I think you're missing the point a bit on the concept of "stealing" in general. I can agree that it's a personal right for everybody to choose their own partners and pick from whoever is more worthy, breaking up with those you don't really feel happy with in the process. However, there is a thing like messing up with otherwise perfectly fine relationships in order to get to someone engaged - including, but not limited to stalking, instigating a couple against each other, even stuff like setting up fake text messages and trying mess up with both persons on social media, which sadly gets increasingly easier to do, considering that quarells over Facebook statuses are already a thing. This is what people usually considering "stealing someone", and it's a real thing - when you just invade someone's relationship and start to ruin it, sometimes from inside, doing it deliberately and with a full knowledge of what you're doing. And it's not like it's that hard to turn a happy couple against each other - google "how to break up a couple" for example, there are enough examples of screwing with people to make you paranoid. And going outside the topic, there's also a concern of trust - for example, so-called "bro code", an unspoken rule of "not dating/sleeping with/having romantic involvement with a friend's ex (without asking first)". Without citing several reasons of why it's a wrong thing to do, let's just say that breaking it is a good way to lose your friend forever.
90% or more of all "how to break up a couple" methods are easily defeated by good communication. They work because of a social climate of glorifying distrust and jealousy in relationships. Trying to sabotage other people's relationships (or friendships, no real difference) is shitty, yes, but it's going to be a whole lot harder if the people in the relationship refuse to play the jealousy game. I've been accused of stealing someone's boyfriend before (and while I did end up dating him later, I had no intention of breaking the two of them up, nor did I have any romantic interest in him at the time - we started dating something like half a year later), and the whole situation could have been avoided if she'd been honest and straightforward with her boyfriend, or even had deigned to communicate her concerns to me. Instead she decided to hold her worries back and let her jealousy and insecurity utterly poison her relationship.
Welp, I completely agree, you nailed the point. Though, as you already said, it doesn't make sabotaging relationships any less shittier - at least due to the fact that uncommunicative relationships can improve and open up over time (after partners got to know each other better and made some important conclusions about themselves), while involvement of one wrong person can ruin it forever. If coming to a compromise, I think there is a thing like "stealing a girlfriend/boyfriend" - it just goes beyond simple "choosing one over another" and includes personal involvement
Well, I'm expressing my personal opinion on the subject - it just happens that everytime I say something you don't agree with, you go into fight mode and try to demonize me or drown me in insults, bringing it to a personal level. If you want a reasonable, cultured discussion about why I'm wrong, you're always welcome to talk it out, just like quoting_mungo did, but if you will constantly be like "HURR DUUR YOU'RE BAD", of course I'll report you again and again until you get warned or banned - who likes being insulted on constant basis for, well, saying stuff. I mean, your solution is basically "If you don't like being insulted by me, leave this forum" - it already seems like you're trying to bully me off from FAF.
you said 'stealing girlfriends' which clearly implies women are a possession. all that stuff about manipulating and sabotaging a couple doesn't negate that. YOU OBJECTIFIED WOMEN and there's no way around it. you wanna talk about insults? that's a pretty nasty insult to women everywhere. and you're surprised to see some animosity in return pfffft give me a break. aside from that, it doesn't help at all that you rekindled drama that was ALREADY DONE WITH for /no/ reason
"Stealing girlfriends" is a metaphor you idiot. It pretty much means running off with someone elses partner. There's no STEALING involved. And women are objectified all the time. And so are men. Stop pouting.
so that makes it okay? and you say i'm the idiot.
gr8 post m8! i r8 8/8. at least we're /trying/ to make posts with more substance than yours
Nah. We've been together for a very long time.
I didn't mean it like THAT. My point is to not be afraid to take a chance on someone, no matter how crazy that chance is, because the end result may be the best thing to ever happen to you in your life, which is what it was fur me.
Dunno, I'm a fan of a good, reasonable debate, and I don't see anything shameful in it, as long as it doesn't go into the territory of personal insults. Arguing on controversial or complicated matters is a good way to test your knowledge and charisma, challenge your opinions and beliefs, see different perspectives on the subject, and in the end result, get a little bit wiser. Of course, there's some edge in any kind of arguing, but it only makes things a bit more spicey and fun. The only problem is when it stops being a debate and turns into crap-flinging - this is where it gets toxic for everybody and loses an initial purpose. This is the primary problem people in the thread have with Sl0shy, I think - there are more insults in her posts than any actual arguments.
Yes you are, because you make a big fuss about nothing. A fucking opinion. An opinion is neither right nor wrong unless it contradicts facts. It's like having different opinions on abortion. It's a topic that lives in the grey area where a lot of opinions, even if they contradict others, are correct. And frankly, this subject is a grey area.