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Dontgiveafucksexuals Fandom Members (aka Pansexual)

Mentova

I live, I die, I live again
Pansexuality always seemed kinda weird to me. The idea of it always kinda felt a bit pretentious to me since it kinda implies that if you identify as bisexual then you have a problem with and are excluding trans people and such. Not to mention that it implies that looks are all that matter to bi people. I'd like to think that most people aren't shallow dickholes and tend to choose their romantic partners based on personality anyways even if physical appearance might spark an interest. Though I can understand the argument that "bi" seems to be a bit more strict. I donno, I've just noticed a lot of people these days are quick to label themselves, especially around gender and sexuality. Personally, I'm not a fan of labeling everything and I think people should just be who they wanna be instead of worrying about conforming to specific labels. I don't judge people based on them though. Life is too fucking short. If it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anything else, go for it.
 

RedSavage

Rattlesnake Flavored
Pansexuality always seemed kinda weird to me. The idea of it always kinda felt a bit pretentious to me since it kinda implies that if you identify as bisexual then you have a problem with and are excluding trans people and such. Not to mention that it implies that looks are all that matter to bi people. I'd like to think that most people aren't shallow dickholes and tend to choose their romantic partners based on personality anyways even if physical appearance might spark an interest. Though I can understand the argument that "bi" seems to be a bit more strict. I donno, I've just noticed a lot of people these days are quick to label themselves, especially around gender and sexuality. Personally, I'm not a fan of labeling everything and I think people should just be who they wanna be instead of worrying about conforming to specific labels. I don't judge people based on them though. Life is too fucking short. If it makes you happy and doesn't hurt anything else, go for it.

That's a fair angle. though I wouldn't be so far as to call it "pretentious" (though some people don't go out of their way to not make it sound as such). It's be no more pretentious than, say, bisexuality implying that straight people are being shallow for only liking the opposite gender and nothing else. It's just a description.

I think it's solidly fair to say there's quite a few bisexual people who may not be into transgender individuals. But, on the same note, there's probably a lot of people who consider themselves bi that wouldn't care either way.

That's why I kind of disclaimed the whole thing, "It's whaht-evah-the-fack you want it to be".

And again. While we're in a society that still labels the shit out of everything as some 'other', I think it's fair to sit around and discuss 'em now and then. Who knows. Maybe with time, so many terms will get created, people will finally stop using them and people will just be.
 
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Mentova

I live, I die, I live again
That's a fair angle. though I wouldn't be so far as to call it "pretentious" (though some people don't go out of their way to not make it sound as such). It's be no more pretentious than, say, bisexuality implying that straight people are being shallow for only liking the opposite gender and nothing else. It's just a description.

I think it's solidly fair to say there's quite a few bisexual people who may not be into transgender individuals. But, on the same note, there's probably a lot of people who consider themselves bi that wouldn't care either way.

That's why I kind of disclaimed the whole thing, "It's whaht-evah-the-fack you want it to be".

And again. While we're in a society that still labels the shit out of everything as some 'other', I think it's fair to sit around and discuss 'em now and then. Who knows. Maybe with time, so many terms will get created, people will finally stop using them and people will just be.
Yeah, I guess pretentious is a bit strong of a word but I couldn't think of another word. Shutup I'm having a sick day >:V

Its just seems like splitting hairs, like I've always understood that Homosexual = same sex, Heterosexual = opposite sex, Bisexual = both/anything. I consider myself bi and if I met someone who was trans who hit all the right buttons, then I'd have no problem going out with them. Like I said though, if someone is comfortable and happy calling themselves that, then go for it. It doesn't make you less of a person, I just think people should focus less on labels and more on being who they are.
 

RedSavage

Rattlesnake Flavored
Yeah, I guess pretentious is a bit strong of a word but I couldn't think of another word. Shutup I'm having a sick day >:V

Its just seems like splitting hairs, like I've always understood that Homosexual = same sex, Heterosexual = opposite sex, Bisexual = both/anything. I consider myself bi and if I met someone who was trans who hit all the right buttons, then I'd have no problem going out with them. Like I said though, if someone is comfortable and happy calling themselves that, then go for it. It doesn't make you less of a person, I just think people should focus less on labels and more on being who they are.

I can agree with that.
But dammit--if we are not here to split hairs then why the fuck are we even in this place. >:V
 

BRN

WTB Forum Mod Powers
I'm totally cool with the ideas that "pansexuality" aggregates.
Just fuck the word, though. If you said that to anyone outside of tumblr, they'd ask you what the hell you meant, and when you had to explain, you'd say "it's bisexuality".


It bothers me that someone, somewhere once created some words from latin roots and threw them onto a Wikipedia page, and now we've got a whole internet social revolution for a bunch of people who either think they wholly understand their exact sexual interests (they don't) or think their sexual interests are absolutely open (they aren't).
 

RedSavage

Rattlesnake Flavored
I'm totally cool with the ideas that "pansexuality" aggregates.
Just fuck the word, though. If you said that to anyone outside of tumblr, they'd ask you what the hell you meant, and when you had to explain, you'd say "it's bisexuality".

Bisexual is a pretty good general cop-out word if you don't want to go all tumblr on someone and explain pansexual.

Though, I'm half tempted to describe pansexual as attracted to pan-baked breads and goods next time it gets brought up.
 

BRN

WTB Forum Mod Powers
Bisexual is a pretty good general cop-out word if you don't want to go all tumblr on someone and explain pansexual.

Though, I'm half tempted to describe pansexual as attracted to pan-baked breads and goods next time it gets brought up.

Honestly I'd just far prefer "don'tgiveafuck-o-sexual". It says everything it needs to say. :p
 
Ah, don't you love labels? Its almost as if the SJW of Tumblr want to divide us up into nice little categories for systematic oppression :V

I don't really have much to say in this thread because I'm a boring old straight person who likes vanilla sex.
 

RedSavage

Rattlesnake Flavored
Ah, don't you love labels? Its almost as if the SJW of Tumblr want to divide us up into nice little categories for systematic oppression :V
I don't really have much to say in this thread because I'm a boring old straight person who likes vanilla sex.

Honestly? I think a lot of these labels stem as a reaction from a labelling system already in place.
Again, I don't think this would be a big deal at all if we weren't in a label-based society. People have to make it clear--no. I'm not what you think I am, because the fact of the matter is not everyone is willing to see past labels like a good chunk of people I'm seeing in this thread.

Man, my life would be so much easier if I was straight and plain and vanilla.
But alas. Twas not meant to be.
 

Duality Jack

Feeling Loki with it.
The European psychological associations study on sexual orientations are making this pansexuality thing took increasingly faddish.

Long story short, There are traceable differences between "strongly heterosexual" and "Strongly homosexual" and "Bisexual" in both neuro and emotional response to stimuli but none yet traceable between "Bisexual" and "Pansexual" Individuals, which means it may not be recognized as evidence is stacking up to basically state that "this shit is made up".
 
Honestly? I think a lot of these labels stem as a reaction from a labelling system already in place.
Again, I don't think this would be a big deal at all if we weren't in a label-based society. People have to make it clear--no. I'm not what you think I am, because the fact of the matter is not everyone is willing to see past labels like a good chunk of people I'm seeing in this thread.

Man, my life would be so much easier if I was straight and plain and vanilla.
But alas. Twas not meant to be.

In a way, labels are convenient. But too black-and-white for how people really are. They also divide us, which is what I don't like.
Sexuality and gender labels are kind of like the houses in Harry Potter. It isn't necessarily based off of how you really are, but what you choose to identify as.
I took a sexuality test online that told me that I was predominantly hetero with some homo tendencies. This is probably because I DO in some instances find myself attracted to women, and have felt this way since I was 6 or 7. I don't think I would ever have sex with one or someone who identified as female, so I just consider myself straight.

I dunno, I hope that made sense without sounding too dumb.
 

RedSavage

Rattlesnake Flavored
Long story short, There are traceable differences between "strongly heterosexual" and "Strongly homosexual" and "Bisexual" in both neuro and emotional response to stimuli but none yet traceable between "Bisexual" and "Pansexual" Individuals, which means it may not be recognized as evidence is stacking up to basically state that "this shit is made up".

This is actually rather interesting. I'd like to see the study or a link, if there is one. Also if they tested different stimuli to asexuals, or people otherwise not interested in sex. And also the size and scope of the study, and also what the genders of the subjects were since genderqeer/transgender/intersex inclined people make up a good chunk of pansexuals.

Still, I think the term just clarifies on slight difference in preference, is all.
I mean, not that this thread was ever meant to really debate whether or not it was a thing, but rather just people who preferred to identify by it. But I guess since we're here or whatever.

I've never understood the fascination or apparent inclination to talk people down from orientations they themselves claim and go by. I understand trying to "convince" that they're X or Y based on some vague fact--but this is really not the case here.

In a way, labels are convenient. But too black-and-white for how people really are. They also divide us, which is what I don't like.
Sexuality and gender labels are kind of like the houses in Harry Potter. It isn't necessarily based off of how you really are, but what you choose to identify as.
I took a sexuality test online that told me that I was predominantly hetero with some homo tendencies. This is probably because I DO in some instances find myself attracted to women, and have felt this way since I was 6 or 7. I don't think I would ever have sex with one or someone who identified as female, so I just consider myself straight.

I dunno, I hope that made sense without sounding too dumb.

It does! You basically provided a good example of establishing your sexuality as how you define it. You're straight, but you do sometimes find yourself attracted to your own gender. Many people would try and jump on that and say "AH AH AH! That's bisexual! That's bi-curious!!" But no--no it isn't.

Basically at the end of the day you're straight because you say you are.
 
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HereKittyKitty

It's all fun and games...
Can there be a sexual equivalent to genderfluid? Sometimes I'm straight, sometimes I'm gay, and sometimes I'm in between?

Fluidsexual?
Sexfluid?

Probably not that last one. Regardless! We need a word for this.
 

HereKittyKitty

It's all fun and games...
I think it's described simply as a "Fluid Sexuality". o: Which some people orient themselves under.
Dang, so we don't get any of those nifty greek and latin based one word labels? Totes unfair! :V
 

Bonobosoph

4 hands good 2 hands bad ;)
Don'tgiveafucksexual suits how I feel way more than little buzzlabels. I change all the time anyway so deciding on a name even pansexual would restrict me. So don'tgiveafucksexual it is.
I don't even like the word pansexual becasue of the word pan. Because it makes me think of person that likes members of the pan genus and I think "ew".
 

HereKittyKitty

It's all fun and games...
I TRIED REALLY HARD TO LOOK ONE UP SPECIALLY FOR YOU BUT I COULDNT PLZ 4GIVE ME ;W;
Well... since it's you... I guess I forgive you.
Cause, you know, you're totes the only person responsible for making sexual labels. You fiend. >:V
 
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